I don't know about the night vision stuff, but I bought a pair
of binoculars from Land and Sea for about $70 and they are
far better than some than of the expensive ones that I have
tried.
They may be junk to some, but they give me a nice bright image
and are rubber coated so you can knock them around a little. I
really wanted a nice Steiner, but they had a demo pair of these
and I tried them and bought them on the spot. Maybe some day we
will go for the high priced ones with the compass, but right now
we are happy with what we have.

Leanne B
S/V Fundy

Those things are absolute junk. Not worth having on board. The field
of vision is so small you might as well look through a 1/4 inch tube.

This is clearly someone who hasn't used much NightVision. FOV is actually wider
on the NightOwl. I've used new Gen 4. The main difference is that the Gen 4
provides far better detail and usable range. For boating a good gen 1 from
Night Owl or Newcon will give you 600-1000 feet of very illuminated night
vision, capable of showing objects in the water, moorings and so on.
I tested several of these units. While the Gen 3/4 are awesome, the average
coastal sailor will be fine with a generation 1.

RB

Those things are absolute junk. Not worth having on board. The field
of vision is so small you might as well look through a 1/4 inch tube.

This is clearly someone who hasn't used much NightVision. FOV is actually wider
on the NightOwl. I've used new Gen 4. The main difference is that the Gen 4
provides far better detail and usable range. For boating a good gen 1 from
Night Owl or Newcon will give you 600-1000 feet of very illuminated night
vision, capable of showing objects in the water, moorings and so on.
I tested several of these units. While the Gen 3/4 are awesome, the average
coastal sailor will be fine with a generation 1.

RB

I wonder how accurate the 'rangefinder' option is on some binoculars.

Leanne wrote in message
...
I don't know about the night vision stuff, but I bought a pair
of binoculars from Land and Sea for about $70 and they are
far better than some than of the expensive ones that I have
tried.
They may be junk to some, but they give me a nice bright image
and are rubber coated so you can knock them around a little. I
really wanted a nice Steiner, but they had a demo pair of these
and I tried them and bought them on the spot. Maybe some day we
will go for the high priced ones with the compass, but right now
we are happy with what we have.

Leanne B
S/V Fundy

I wonder how accurate the 'rangefinder' option is on some binoculars.

Leanne wrote in message
...
I don't know about the night vision stuff, but I bought a pair
of binoculars from Land and Sea for about $70 and they are
far better than some than of the expensive ones that I have
tried.
They may be junk to some, but they give me a nice bright image
and are rubber coated so you can knock them around a little. I
really wanted a nice Steiner, but they had a demo pair of these
and I tried them and bought them on the spot. Maybe some day we
will go for the high priced ones with the compass, but right now
we are happy with what we have.

Leanne B
S/V Fundy

Seldom, if EVER, do you "get what you pay for".


I recently got a pair of BoatUS Fujinon's with compass as a gift. My friend has
a pair of Steiners that cost 549.00, 2 1/2 times the price.
The Fuji's matched the Steiners in nearly everyway and were better ballanced
and easier to hold and focus. The only edge the Steiners had was a less color
fringing at the edge of FOV. At night we gave the edge to the Fujinons for
brighter image.
Anyone who says "you get what you pay for" is not a smart shopper. But I do
like to tell people, "It doesn't pay NOT to pay!" That means you shouldn't buy
the cheapest stuff around.

Capt RB

Seldom, if EVER, do you "get what you pay for".


I recently got a pair of BoatUS Fujinon's with compass as a gift. My friend has
a pair of Steiners that cost 549.00, 2 1/2 times the price.
The Fuji's matched the Steiners in nearly everyway and were better ballanced
and easier to hold and focus. The only edge the Steiners had was a less color
fringing at the edge of FOV. At night we gave the edge to the Fujinons for
brighter image.
Anyone who says "you get what you pay for" is not a smart shopper. But I do
like to tell people, "It doesn't pay NOT to pay!" That means you shouldn't buy
the cheapest stuff around.

Capt RB

On 29 Nov 2003 15:23:06 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

Those things are absolute junk. Not worth having on board. The field
of vision is so small you might as well look through a 1/4 inch tube.

This is clearly someone who hasn't used much NightVision. FOV is actually wider
on the NightOwl. I've used new Gen 4. The main difference is that the Gen 4
provides far better detail and usable range. For boating a good gen 1 from
Night Owl or Newcon will give you 600-1000 feet of very illuminated night
vision, capable of showing objects in the water, moorings and so on.
I tested several of these units. While the Gen 3/4 are awesome, the average
coastal sailor will be fine with a generation 1.

RB


Pardon me, I should have said "usable field of view". Awful distortion
when off center.

Regards
Gary

On 29 Nov 2003 15:23:06 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

Those things are absolute junk. Not worth having on board. The field
of vision is so small you might as well look through a 1/4 inch tube.

This is clearly someone who hasn't used much NightVision. FOV is actually wider
on the NightOwl. I've used new Gen 4. The main difference is that the Gen 4
provides far better detail and usable range. For boating a good gen 1 from
Night Owl or Newcon will give you 600-1000 feet of very illuminated night
vision, capable of showing objects in the water, moorings and so on.
I tested several of these units. While the Gen 3/4 are awesome, the average
coastal sailor will be fine with a generation 1.

RB


Pardon me, I should have said "usable field of view". Awful distortion
when off center.

Regards
Gary

The field
of vision is so small

And just to show that people shouldn't talk when they know so little,
FOV of the NightOwl = 628 at 1000 yards.
Narrow? Not even close. It's VERY wide. In fact its so wide at 3.1x that they
sell an add on lens to increase mag.

Capt RB