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"Gordon" wrote in message
... Putting a profurl headsail roller reefer on a 27 footer. Is it necessary to have luff foam or rope for reefing on a sail this small? Some sailmakers say yes, some no. Any direct experiences? Thanks Gordon Necessary? No. Good idea? Maybe. Depends on the size of the jib to begin with. I have a 100% on a furler with no foam. Quantum built it for me from a jib that was for a furler that got replaced with a new one. If I reef the 100, the sail is no longer perfect, but it wasn't perfect anyway. g I've been considering a 130, and for that I would have them put the foam. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On May 10, 4:30 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Gordon" wrote in message ... Putting a profurl headsail roller reefer on a 27 footer. Is it necessary to have luff foam or rope for reefing on a sail this small? Some sailmakers say yes, some no. Any direct experiences? Thanks Gordon Necessary? No. Good idea? Maybe. Depends on the size of the jib to begin with. I have a 100% on a furler with no foam. Quantum built it for me from a jib that was for a furler that got replaced with a new one. If I reef the 100, the sail is no longer perfect, but it wasn't perfect anyway. g I've been considering a 130, and for that I would have them put the foam. -- "j" ganz If you bought proper hanked on sails you will not need rotting foam and other types of dunnage used to maintain a proper sail shape. Joe |
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"Joe" wrote in message oups.com... On May 10, 4:30 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Gordon" wrote in message ... Putting a profurl headsail roller reefer on a 27 footer. Is it necessary to have luff foam or rope for reefing on a sail this small? Some sailmakers say yes, some no. Any direct experiences? Thanks Gordon Necessary? No. Good idea? Maybe. Depends on the size of the jib to begin with. I have a 100% on a furler with no foam. Quantum built it for me from a jib that was for a furler that got replaced with a new one. If I reef the 100, the sail is no longer perfect, but it wasn't perfect anyway. g I've been considering a 130, and for that I would have them put the foam. -- "j" ganz If you bought proper hanked on sails you will not need rotting foam and other types of dunnage used to maintain a proper sail shape. Joe I agree. Anybody installing roll-ups on a 27-footer is a weenie! Total waste of money, a source of extra trouble and breakdowns, decreased performance, ugly-looking and expensive. Only fools pay extra for less. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com... On May 10, 4:30 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Gordon" wrote in message ... Putting a profurl headsail roller reefer on a 27 footer. Is it necessary to have luff foam or rope for reefing on a sail this small? Some sailmakers say yes, some no. Any direct experiences? Thanks Gordon Necessary? No. Good idea? Maybe. Depends on the size of the jib to begin with. I have a 100% on a furler with no foam. Quantum built it for me from a jib that was for a furler that got replaced with a new one. If I reef the 100, the sail is no longer perfect, but it wasn't perfect anyway. g I've been considering a 130, and for that I would have them put the foam. -- "j" ganz If you bought proper hanked on sails you will not need rotting foam and other types of dunnage used to maintain a proper sail shape. Joe Sorry dude, but I single-hand all the time. Hank on sails are fine when you don't have to reef often by yourself. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On May 10, 5:56 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message oups.com... On May 10, 4:30 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Gordon" wrote in message ... Putting a profurl headsail roller reefer on a 27 footer. Is it necessary to have luff foam or rope for reefing on a sail this small? Some sailmakers say yes, some no. Any direct experiences? Thanks Gordon Necessary? No. Good idea? Maybe. Depends on the size of the jib to begin with. I have a 100% on a furler with no foam. Quantum built it for me from a jib that was for a furler that got replaced with a new one. If I reef the 100, the sail is no longer perfect, but it wasn't perfect anyway. g I've been considering a 130, and for that I would have them put the foam. -- "j" ganz If you bought proper hanked on sails you will not need rotting foam and other types of dunnage used to maintain a proper sail shape. Joe Sorry dude, but I single-hand all the time. Hank on sails are fine when you don't have to reef often by yourself. -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - An inner and outer fore stay, 2 sail tracks on the main, and a mizzen and it's easy to keep ahead of the wind single handed with hank on sails. Auto pilots helps. Joe |
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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com... On May 10, 5:56 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... On May 10, 4:30 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Gordon" wrote in message ... Putting a profurl headsail roller reefer on a 27 footer. Is it necessary to have luff foam or rope for reefing on a sail this small? Some sailmakers say yes, some no. Any direct experiences? Thanks Gordon Necessary? No. Good idea? Maybe. Depends on the size of the jib to begin with. I have a 100% on a furler with no foam. Quantum built it for me from a jib that was for a furler that got replaced with a new one. If I reef the 100, the sail is no longer perfect, but it wasn't perfect anyway. g I've been considering a 130, and for that I would have them put the foam. -- "j" ganz If you bought proper hanked on sails you will not need rotting foam and other types of dunnage used to maintain a proper sail shape. Joe Sorry dude, but I single-hand all the time. Hank on sails are fine when you don't have to reef often by yourself. -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - An inner and outer fore stay, 2 sail tracks on the main, and a mizzen and it's easy to keep ahead of the wind single handed with hank on sails. Auto pilots helps. Joe Well good for you! I prefer the ease of pulling one line to roll up my sail. If you don't, don't feel you have to get one. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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If you bought proper hanked on sails you will not need rotting foam and other types of dunnage used to maintain a proper sail shape. Joe Sorry dude, but I single-hand all the time. Hank on sails are fine when you don't have to reef often by yourself. I agree wholeheartedly. It took me years to change to a roller furler due to a number of reasons including thoughts of the thing malfunctioning in heavy weather and having to pull the whole sail out to get it down. A friend of mine who had circumnavigated solo in her 30 footer without an engine convinced me. It is safer being a single hander being able to reef etc from the cockpit, faster and much less effort. I'm not racing so why would any less than perfect sail set worry me? Peter |
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On May 10, 3:56 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message oups.com... On May 10, 4:30 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Gordon" wrote in message ... Putting a profurl headsail roller reefer on a 27 footer. Is it necessary to have luff foam or rope for reefing on a sail this small? Some sailmakers say yes, some no. Any direct experiences? Thanks Gordon Necessary? No. Good idea? Maybe. Depends on the size of the jib to begin with. I have a 100% on a furler with no foam. Quantum built it for me from a jib that was for a furler that got replaced with a new one. If I reef the 100, the sail is no longer perfect, but it wasn't perfect anyway. g I've been considering a 130, and for that I would have them put the foam. -- "j" ganz If you bought proper hanked on sails you will not need rotting foam and other types of dunnage used to maintain a proper sail shape. Joe Sorry dude, but I single-hand all the time. Hank on sails are fine when you don't have to reef often by yourself. -- "j" ganz I've hanked on enough sails singlehanded to appreciate a good reefer/ furler. Far Cove has one, and it's a Joy to always have Just Enough headsail rather than always too much or too little. As for the foam luff: I think it's a Good Idea, and as mentioned does give you a better sail shape when reefed, but not necessary for reefing. Just make sure you get a GOOD furling system (mine is a Harken) - the cheaper ones furl but don't reef. druid http://www.bcboatnet.org |
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#9
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In article .com,
druid wrote: I've hanked on enough sails singlehanded to appreciate a good reefer/ furler. Far Cove has one, and it's a Joy to always have Just Enough headsail rather than always too much or too little. As for the foam luff: I think it's a Good Idea, and as mentioned does give you a better sail shape when reefed, but not necessary for reefing. Just make sure you get a GOOD furling system (mine is a Harken) - the cheaper ones furl but don't reef. I have a Schaefer. Sailing with it reefed in 25kts plus isn't a problem. Definitely, you need a decent mechanism. -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
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#10
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The shape of my 130 with foam is bad enough when reefed down that I would
sure go with the foam. The size of the sail doesn't have that much to do with the geometry of the sail shape. I'm always astounded how well my boat sails with the working jib which has great shape. I put a luff doubling on it this winter so I can leave it up and fly it more often. Good shape trumps area in most conditions. -- Roger Long |
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