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Putting a profurl headsail roller reefer on a 27 footer. Is it
necessary to have luff foam or rope for reefing on a sail this small? Some sailmakers say yes, some no. Any direct experiences? Thanks Gordon |
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"Gordon" wrote in message ... Putting a profurl headsail roller reefer on a 27 footer. Is it necessary to have luff foam or rope for reefing on a sail this small? Some sailmakers say yes, some no. Any direct experiences? Thanks Gordon Essie has a Profurl NC32 furler, Genoa built by North Sails. No foam or other "bulker" in the luff, works just fine. YMMV. |
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... Putting a profurl headsail roller reefer on a 27 footer. Is it necessary to have luff foam or rope for reefing on a sail this small? Some sailmakers say yes, some no. Any direct experiences? Thanks Gordon Necessary? No. Good idea? Maybe. Depends on the size of the jib to begin with. I have a 100% on a furler with no foam. Quantum built it for me from a jib that was for a furler that got replaced with a new one. If I reef the 100, the sail is no longer perfect, but it wasn't perfect anyway. g I've been considering a 130, and for that I would have them put the foam. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On May 10, 4:30 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Gordon" wrote in message ... Putting a profurl headsail roller reefer on a 27 footer. Is it necessary to have luff foam or rope for reefing on a sail this small? Some sailmakers say yes, some no. Any direct experiences? Thanks Gordon Necessary? No. Good idea? Maybe. Depends on the size of the jib to begin with. I have a 100% on a furler with no foam. Quantum built it for me from a jib that was for a furler that got replaced with a new one. If I reef the 100, the sail is no longer perfect, but it wasn't perfect anyway. g I've been considering a 130, and for that I would have them put the foam. -- "j" ganz If you bought proper hanked on sails you will not need rotting foam and other types of dunnage used to maintain a proper sail shape. Joe |
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"Joe" wrote in message oups.com... On May 10, 4:30 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Gordon" wrote in message ... Putting a profurl headsail roller reefer on a 27 footer. Is it necessary to have luff foam or rope for reefing on a sail this small? Some sailmakers say yes, some no. Any direct experiences? Thanks Gordon Necessary? No. Good idea? Maybe. Depends on the size of the jib to begin with. I have a 100% on a furler with no foam. Quantum built it for me from a jib that was for a furler that got replaced with a new one. If I reef the 100, the sail is no longer perfect, but it wasn't perfect anyway. g I've been considering a 130, and for that I would have them put the foam. -- "j" ganz If you bought proper hanked on sails you will not need rotting foam and other types of dunnage used to maintain a proper sail shape. Joe I agree. Anybody installing roll-ups on a 27-footer is a weenie! Total waste of money, a source of extra trouble and breakdowns, decreased performance, ugly-looking and expensive. Only fools pay extra for less. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com... On May 10, 4:30 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Gordon" wrote in message ... Putting a profurl headsail roller reefer on a 27 footer. Is it necessary to have luff foam or rope for reefing on a sail this small? Some sailmakers say yes, some no. Any direct experiences? Thanks Gordon Necessary? No. Good idea? Maybe. Depends on the size of the jib to begin with. I have a 100% on a furler with no foam. Quantum built it for me from a jib that was for a furler that got replaced with a new one. If I reef the 100, the sail is no longer perfect, but it wasn't perfect anyway. g I've been considering a 130, and for that I would have them put the foam. -- "j" ganz If you bought proper hanked on sails you will not need rotting foam and other types of dunnage used to maintain a proper sail shape. Joe Sorry dude, but I single-hand all the time. Hank on sails are fine when you don't have to reef often by yourself. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On May 10, 5:56 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message oups.com... On May 10, 4:30 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Gordon" wrote in message ... Putting a profurl headsail roller reefer on a 27 footer. Is it necessary to have luff foam or rope for reefing on a sail this small? Some sailmakers say yes, some no. Any direct experiences? Thanks Gordon Necessary? No. Good idea? Maybe. Depends on the size of the jib to begin with. I have a 100% on a furler with no foam. Quantum built it for me from a jib that was for a furler that got replaced with a new one. If I reef the 100, the sail is no longer perfect, but it wasn't perfect anyway. g I've been considering a 130, and for that I would have them put the foam. -- "j" ganz If you bought proper hanked on sails you will not need rotting foam and other types of dunnage used to maintain a proper sail shape. Joe Sorry dude, but I single-hand all the time. Hank on sails are fine when you don't have to reef often by yourself. -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - An inner and outer fore stay, 2 sail tracks on the main, and a mizzen and it's easy to keep ahead of the wind single handed with hank on sails. Auto pilots helps. Joe |
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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com... On May 10, 5:56 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... On May 10, 4:30 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Gordon" wrote in message ... Putting a profurl headsail roller reefer on a 27 footer. Is it necessary to have luff foam or rope for reefing on a sail this small? Some sailmakers say yes, some no. Any direct experiences? Thanks Gordon Necessary? No. Good idea? Maybe. Depends on the size of the jib to begin with. I have a 100% on a furler with no foam. Quantum built it for me from a jib that was for a furler that got replaced with a new one. If I reef the 100, the sail is no longer perfect, but it wasn't perfect anyway. g I've been considering a 130, and for that I would have them put the foam. -- "j" ganz If you bought proper hanked on sails you will not need rotting foam and other types of dunnage used to maintain a proper sail shape. Joe Sorry dude, but I single-hand all the time. Hank on sails are fine when you don't have to reef often by yourself. -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - An inner and outer fore stay, 2 sail tracks on the main, and a mizzen and it's easy to keep ahead of the wind single handed with hank on sails. Auto pilots helps. Joe Well good for you! I prefer the ease of pulling one line to roll up my sail. If you don't, don't feel you have to get one. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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If you bought proper hanked on sails you will not need rotting foam and other types of dunnage used to maintain a proper sail shape. Joe Sorry dude, but I single-hand all the time. Hank on sails are fine when you don't have to reef often by yourself. I agree wholeheartedly. It took me years to change to a roller furler due to a number of reasons including thoughts of the thing malfunctioning in heavy weather and having to pull the whole sail out to get it down. A friend of mine who had circumnavigated solo in her 30 footer without an engine convinced me. It is safer being a single hander being able to reef etc from the cockpit, faster and much less effort. I'm not racing so why would any less than perfect sail set worry me? Peter |
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On May 10, 3:56 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message oups.com... On May 10, 4:30 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Gordon" wrote in message ... Putting a profurl headsail roller reefer on a 27 footer. Is it necessary to have luff foam or rope for reefing on a sail this small? Some sailmakers say yes, some no. Any direct experiences? Thanks Gordon Necessary? No. Good idea? Maybe. Depends on the size of the jib to begin with. I have a 100% on a furler with no foam. Quantum built it for me from a jib that was for a furler that got replaced with a new one. If I reef the 100, the sail is no longer perfect, but it wasn't perfect anyway. g I've been considering a 130, and for that I would have them put the foam. -- "j" ganz If you bought proper hanked on sails you will not need rotting foam and other types of dunnage used to maintain a proper sail shape. Joe Sorry dude, but I single-hand all the time. Hank on sails are fine when you don't have to reef often by yourself. -- "j" ganz I've hanked on enough sails singlehanded to appreciate a good reefer/ furler. Far Cove has one, and it's a Joy to always have Just Enough headsail rather than always too much or too little. As for the foam luff: I think it's a Good Idea, and as mentioned does give you a better sail shape when reefed, but not necessary for reefing. Just make sure you get a GOOD furling system (mine is a Harken) - the cheaper ones furl but don't reef. druid http://www.bcboatnet.org |
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