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Gordon May 10th 07 10:15 PM

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Putting a profurl headsail roller reefer on a 27 footer. Is it
necessary to have luff foam or rope for reefing on a sail this small?
Some sailmakers say yes, some no. Any direct experiences?
Thanks
Gordon

KLC Lewis May 10th 07 10:30 PM

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"Gordon" wrote in message
...
Putting a profurl headsail roller reefer on a 27 footer. Is it necessary
to have luff foam or rope for reefing on a sail this small? Some
sailmakers say yes, some no. Any direct experiences?
Thanks
Gordon


Essie has a Profurl NC32 furler, Genoa built by North Sails. No foam or
other "bulker" in the luff, works just fine. YMMV.



Capt. JG May 10th 07 10:30 PM

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"Gordon" wrote in message
...
Putting a profurl headsail roller reefer on a 27 footer. Is it necessary
to have luff foam or rope for reefing on a sail this small? Some
sailmakers say yes, some no. Any direct experiences?
Thanks
Gordon



Necessary? No. Good idea? Maybe. Depends on the size of the jib to begin
with. I have a 100% on a furler with no foam. Quantum built it for me from a
jib that was for a furler that got replaced with a new one. If I reef the
100, the sail is no longer perfect, but it wasn't perfect anyway. g

I've been considering a 130, and for that I would have them put the foam.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Joe May 10th 07 10:45 PM

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On May 10, 4:30 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Gordon" wrote in message

...

Putting a profurl headsail roller reefer on a 27 footer. Is it necessary
to have luff foam or rope for reefing on a sail this small? Some
sailmakers say yes, some no. Any direct experiences?
Thanks
Gordon


Necessary? No. Good idea? Maybe. Depends on the size of the jib to begin
with. I have a 100% on a furler with no foam. Quantum built it for me from a
jib that was for a furler that got replaced with a new one. If I reef the
100, the sail is no longer perfect, but it wasn't perfect anyway. g

I've been considering a 130, and for that I would have them put the foam.

--
"j" ganz


If you bought proper hanked on sails you will not need rotting foam
and other types of dunnage used to maintain a proper sail shape.

Joe


Wilbur Hubbard May 10th 07 10:49 PM

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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 10, 4:30 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Gordon" wrote in message

...

Putting a profurl headsail roller reefer on a 27 footer. Is it
necessary
to have luff foam or rope for reefing on a sail this small? Some
sailmakers say yes, some no. Any direct experiences?
Thanks
Gordon


Necessary? No. Good idea? Maybe. Depends on the size of the jib to
begin
with. I have a 100% on a furler with no foam. Quantum built it for me
from a
jib that was for a furler that got replaced with a new one. If I reef
the
100, the sail is no longer perfect, but it wasn't perfect anyway. g

I've been considering a 130, and for that I would have them put the
foam.

--
"j" ganz


If you bought proper hanked on sails you will not need rotting foam
and other types of dunnage used to maintain a proper sail shape.

Joe


I agree. Anybody installing roll-ups on a 27-footer is a weenie! Total
waste of money, a source of extra trouble and breakdowns, decreased
performance, ugly-looking and expensive. Only fools pay extra for less.

Wilbur Hubbard



Roger Long May 10th 07 10:56 PM

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The shape of my 130 with foam is bad enough when reefed down that I would
sure go with the foam. The size of the sail doesn't have that much to do
with the geometry of the sail shape.

I'm always astounded how well my boat sails with the working jib which has
great shape. I put a luff doubling on it this winter so I can leave it up
and fly it more often. Good shape trumps area in most conditions.

--
Roger Long


KLC Lewis May 10th 07 11:00 PM

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"Roger Long" wrote in message
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The shape of my 130 with foam is bad enough when reefed down that I would
sure go with the foam. The size of the sail doesn't have that much to do
with the geometry of the sail shape.

I'm always astounded how well my boat sails with the working jib which has
great shape. I put a luff doubling on it this winter so I can leave it up
and fly it more often. Good shape trumps area in most conditions.

--
Roger Long


My 130 Genny is relatively flat-cut. That does certainly make a difference
when reefing. If air is light enough that it wants shape, I should probably
put the drifter up anyway.



Capt. JG May 10th 07 11:56 PM

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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 10, 4:30 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Gordon" wrote in message

...

Putting a profurl headsail roller reefer on a 27 footer. Is it
necessary
to have luff foam or rope for reefing on a sail this small? Some
sailmakers say yes, some no. Any direct experiences?
Thanks
Gordon


Necessary? No. Good idea? Maybe. Depends on the size of the jib to begin
with. I have a 100% on a furler with no foam. Quantum built it for me
from a
jib that was for a furler that got replaced with a new one. If I reef the
100, the sail is no longer perfect, but it wasn't perfect anyway. g

I've been considering a 130, and for that I would have them put the foam.

--
"j" ganz


If you bought proper hanked on sails you will not need rotting foam
and other types of dunnage used to maintain a proper sail shape.

Joe



Sorry dude, but I single-hand all the time. Hank on sails are fine when you
don't have to reef often by yourself.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Capt. JG May 11th 07 12:18 AM

Sails
 
"Dave" wrote in message
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On Thu, 10 May 2007 14:15:02 -0700, Gordon said:

Putting a profurl headsail roller reefer on a 27 footer. Is it
necessary to have luff foam or rope for reefing on a sail this small?


Might it not make a difference whether you're talking a 100% working jib
or
a 155% Jenny?



It might. g

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Gordon May 11th 07 02:18 AM

Sails
 
Dave wrote:
On Thu, 10 May 2007 17:49:53 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

I agree. Anybody installing roll-ups on a 27-footer is a weenie!


One of Neal's defining characteristics is making a virtue of necessity.


I'm not only a lazy weenie, but an OLD lazy weenie. Didn't we just
have a thread about brains versus brawn?
Gordon

BTW Sail will be somewhere between 125 and 135%.


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