Frank Maier wrote:

Harry Krause wrote in message ...

I like your hotmail name, Harry. Were you a linotype guy in a previous life?

No, but I was a newspaperman, and I loved the mechanics of hot type,
plating and rumbling presses. I fooled around a little with monotype and
linotype machines, and learned to set headlines by hand with a type
stick letters from a California type case. The "handle" actually comes
from the way letters were dumped in the type case.

At the newspaper where I worked, all the linotype machines were operated
by graduates of a school for the deaf. It was skilled work, paid well,
and offered good benefits, and the typesetters were valued employees of
the newspaper. Of course, that was in the days before corporate America
went for a disposable workforce.


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Harry Krause wrote:

Of course, that was in the days before corporate America
went for a disposable workforce.

It's a giggle that you believe all of the ills in America can be blamed
upon corporations and conservatives.

What a teensy brain you must have.

-- Charlie


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"Charles" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:

Of course, that was in the days before corporate America
went for a disposable workforce.

It's a giggle that you believe all of the ills in America can be blamed
upon corporations and conservatives.

What a teensy brain you must have.

-- Charlie

OK, now that you got your personal attack out of your system, what other
causes are there for American ills?
Please be specific, and include possible cures if you think you know any.

Mark Browne

Not to speak for Charlie, but my list would include:

1) Government at all levels - mainly the bureaucracy not always the
elected officials

2) A large segment of the citizens: undereducated, to lazy to do for
themselves, willing to let #1 above run their lives, etc., etc., etc..

Regards, Ron

I find it interesting that Florida has now made the 12th grade
"Optional". This seems to be an effort to dumb down our kids even further,
don't you think? So who do you blame for this??



Ron Thornton wrote:

Not to speak for Charlie, but my list would include:

1) Government at all levels - mainly the bureaucracy not always the
elected officials

2) A large segment of the citizens: undereducated, to lazy to do for
themselves, willing to let #1 above run their lives, etc., etc., etc..

Regards, Ron

So which prop do you think is best?

"Larry Demers" wrote in message
...
I find it interesting that Florida has now made the 12th grade
"Optional". This seems to be an effort to dumb down our kids even
further,
don't you think? So who do you blame for this??



Ron Thornton wrote:

Not to speak for Charlie, but my list would include:

1) Government at all levels - mainly the bureaucracy not always the
elected officials

2) A large segment of the citizens: undereducated, to lazy to do for
themselves, willing to let #1 above run their lives, etc., etc., etc..

Regards, Ron

Larry Demers wrote:

I find it interesting that Florida has now made the 12th grade
"Optional". This seems to be an effort to dumb down our kids even further,
don't you think? So who do you blame for this??

Dept of Education under Carter decided that the goal of the education
system should be to provide graduates the tool and skills to become
successful adults; so they funded a study to find out what successful
people had in common. The trouble began when the study came up empty
handed. Einstein wasn't a great financier, Trump didn't excell in
mathmatics, neither one excelled at sports or acting; and so on. The
only thing successful people had in common was high self esteem. Now it
may seem obvious to you and I that self esteem derives from success, not
vice versa, but having spent all that $$$ the pointy-headed researchers
had to provide *some* answer. Thus instilling high self esteem replaced
teaching as the goal of American education. Sammy'd rather play than
learn to read? Don't criticize him, it might hurt his self esteem. Is
the course material too demanding for the worst student? Make it easier.
Kids aren't learning anything? Doesn't matter, as long as they feel good
about themselves. So now we have a generation of ignorami who think they
know it all; and why not? That's all they've been taught.

What happens when they transfer to an old fashioned school? Well, the
jocks diss them cuz they're poor athletes, the nerds diss them cuz
they're poor scholors, and so on, even tho *they* know they're great.
After all that's what they've been told all their lives. It must be an
evil plot! Kill them all! And you have the Columbine massacre. Ooops,
sorry, I forgot. That's not PC and might even hurt somebody's self
esteem! Better blame guns or some other inanimate object.

Harry:

My dad was a deaf linotype operator most of his life until Korporate
america disposed of him 10 years before retirement. He supported all
six of us...Thanks for the reminder of days past.

-Mike

In article , Harry Krause
wrote:

Frank Maier wrote:

Harry Krause wrote in message
...

I like your hotmail name, Harry. Were you a linotype guy in a previous life?

No, but I was a newspaperman, and I loved the mechanics of hot type,
plating and rumbling presses. I fooled around a little with monotype and
linotype machines, and learned to set headlines by hand with a type
stick letters from a California type case. The "handle" actually comes
from the way letters were dumped in the type case.

At the newspaper where I worked, all the linotype machines were operated
by graduates of a school for the deaf. It was skilled work, paid well,
and offered good benefits, and the typesetters were valued employees of
the newspaper. Of course, that was in the days before corporate America
went for a disposable workforce.