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Dangerous Maga-yacht in Maine
"Wayne.B" wrote Roger forget the "rules being observed" for a minute. He didn't hit you did he? That's his only obligation. Bzzzt! Wrong! |
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Totally wrong. I think a couple of people need to re-read the colregs.
Here's a link in bigger type for those of us with older eyes... http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknow...g/colregs.html -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scotty" wrote in message . .. "Wayne.B" wrote Roger forget the "rules being observed" for a minute. He didn't hit you did he? That's his only obligation. Bzzzt! Wrong! |
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Nice link .... to the international rules. Most people (In the US) need to
focus on the Inland Rules first. You can always get the most up-to-date official copy of the Nav Rules (International and Inland at) http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navrules/download.htm "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Totally wrong. I think a couple of people need to re-read the colregs. Here's a link in bigger type for those of us with older eyes... http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknow...g/colregs.html -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scotty" wrote in message . .. "Wayne.B" wrote Roger forget the "rules being observed" for a minute. He didn't hit you did he? That's his only obligation. Bzzzt! Wrong! |
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Dangerous Maga-yacht in Maine
Gerald wrote:
Nice link .... to the international rules. Most people (In the US) need to focus on the Inland Rules first. You can always get the most up-to-date official copy of the Nav Rules (International and Inland at) http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navrules/download.htm So, where is the demarcation line for where the "inland rules start and the Colregs end? Which rules did apply in this case and does it make a difference? Gary |
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Good point Gary. The original post talks about "returning back in" and
"hopeing to clear" Ram Island and being in the Portland Main area. I see a Ram Island just inside the COLREG line on the approach to Portland. It seems likely that COLREGS probably applied to the situation. "Gary" wrote in message news:zpPyg.264958$Mn5.8889@pd7tw3no... Gerald wrote: Nice link .... to the international rules. Most people (In the US) need to focus on the Inland Rules first. You can always get the most up-to-date official copy of the Nav Rules (International and Inland at) http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navrules/download.htm So, where is the demarcation line for where the "inland rules start and the Colregs end? Which rules did apply in this case and does it make a difference? Gary |
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Just to be sure everyone is on the same page..... the term COLREGS applies
to the International Rules (though many will apply the term to both Inland and International). When talking about the COLREGS demarcation lines, it's probably best to use Inland or International to describe which side of the line your are on. otn "Gerald" wrote in message ... Good point Gary. The original post talks about "returning back in" and "hopeing to clear" Ram Island and being in the Portland Main area. I see a Ram Island just inside the COLREG line on the approach to Portland. It seems likely that COLREGS probably applied to the situation. |
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The demarcation line depends on where you sail.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Gary" wrote in message news:zpPyg.264958$Mn5.8889@pd7tw3no... Gerald wrote: Nice link .... to the international rules. Most people (In the US) need to focus on the Inland Rules first. You can always get the most up-to-date official copy of the Nav Rules (International and Inland at) http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navrules/download.htm So, where is the demarcation line for where the "inland rules start and the Colregs end? Which rules did apply in this case and does it make a difference? Gary |
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I agree! I think you need to read them again.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Gerald" wrote in message ... Nice link .... to the international rules. Most people (In the US) need to focus on the Inland Rules first. You can always get the most up-to-date official copy of the Nav Rules (International and Inland at) http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navrules/download.htm "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Totally wrong. I think a couple of people need to re-read the colregs. Here's a link in bigger type for those of us with older eyes... http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknow...g/colregs.html -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scotty" wrote in message . .. "Wayne.B" wrote Roger forget the "rules being observed" for a minute. He didn't hit you did he? That's his only obligation. Bzzzt! Wrong! |
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??? I am not sure what do you mean ???
As I mentioned prior ... I know the rules. This thread has evolved to be somewhat fuzzy. At no point did the original poster state that the incident took place outside the COLREG line (I am not personnaly familiar with the Portland area). Several give-and-takes that have taken place here discussed the use of sound signals to give passing intentions. This is a concept that does not exist in normal passing situations in COLREG waters. In INTERNATIONAL waters sound signals are generally (except for narrow channels) used to announce steering actions taken, not proposed actions as in INLAND. I incorrectly asssumed from the context of the discussion that the discussion was about an event that took place under INLAND. Having since checked a chart for the Portland area, it is now apparent that the incident may have occured ouside the COLREGS line. While I certainly didn't say that the INTERNATIONAL rules did not apply, nor that the INLAND rules did apply, you could reasonable assume that thay may have been my intention. If so, I stand corrected. "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... I agree! I think you need to read them again. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Gerald" wrote in message ... Nice link .... to the international rules. Most people (In the US) need to focus on the Inland Rules first. You can always get the most up-to-date official copy of the Nav Rules (International and Inland at) http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navrules/download.htm "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Totally wrong. I think a couple of people need to re-read the colregs. Here's a link in bigger type for those of us with older eyes... http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknow...g/colregs.html -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scotty" wrote in message . .. "Wayne.B" wrote Roger forget the "rules being observed" for a minute. He didn't hit you did he? That's his only obligation. Bzzzt! Wrong! |
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"Gerald" wrote in message
... ??? I am not sure what do you mean ??? As I mentioned prior ... I know the rules. This thread has evolved to be somewhat fuzzy. At no point did the original poster state that the incident took place outside the COLREG line (I am not personnaly familiar with the Portland area). Several give-and-takes that have taken place here discussed the use of sound signals to give passing intentions. This is a concept that does not exist in normal passing situations in COLREG waters. In INTERNATIONAL waters sound signals are generally (except for narrow channels) used to announce steering actions taken, not proposed actions as in INLAND. I incorrectly asssumed from the context of the discussion that the discussion was about an event that took place under INLAND. Having since checked a chart for the Portland area, it is now apparent that the incident may have occured ouside the COLREGS line. While I certainly didn't say that the INTERNATIONAL rules did not apply, nor that the INLAND rules did apply, you could reasonable assume that thay may have been my intention. If so, I stand corrected. "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... I agree! I think you need to read them again. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Gerald" wrote in message ... Nice link .... to the international rules. Most people (In the US) need to focus on the Inland Rules first. You can always get the most up-to-date official copy of the Nav Rules (International and Inland at) http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navrules/download.htm "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Totally wrong. I think a couple of people need to re-read the colregs. Here's a link in bigger type for those of us with older eyes... http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknow...g/colregs.html -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scotty" wrote in message . .. "Wayne.B" wrote Roger forget the "rules being observed" for a minute. He didn't hit you did he? That's his only obligation. Bzzzt! Wrong! I don't remember the context... I have always stood corrected from time to time. :-) -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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