Keep at it? I intend to, and I have been "at it" for years now...
by "it" I mean trying to educate people about pwc's, who uses them, and

And, I have no problem with that, and I'm glad you're doing
it. There's a lot of work to do! (NOT A DIG

Thanks for the support and I wouldn't have taken that last sentence as
a dig - I agree with it
and realize it.

I certainly afford you "some" respect.

And I you.

... this makes me very confident that my efforts on
behalf of myself and my fellow pwc'ers has been pretty successful in
fighting prejucide ad stereortypes....

Not quite enough... suggestion... how about educating the ones who are
still on the water with the noisy, pollution machines. According to
your own words, those people are the ones giving your group a bad
name.

You're right - and I do that too. All of us more experienced
knowledgeable pwc'ers
always make it a point to take newer owners and operators out on the
water and
show them the ropes, try to help them avoid mistakes or let them know
when they're making them,
or offer advice and share information online in message-boards etc (and
I'm no guru or anything
myself, but have learned a decent amount in eight years of riding).

As for the "noisy pollution machines," well obviously it's just a
matter of time
as they continue to be very naturally outnumbered phased out, since all
the manufacturers are under
strict new EPA regulations and have just more and more
prominently/exclusively
offered newer-tech, cleaner/quieter boats....just as in the power
boating industry at large.
I think you'll agree that there are plenty of "Noisy pollution
machines" on the water besides
older pwc's, in fact, other power boats seem to have longer life
cycles, change hands more times
and stay on the water for years or decades....at any rate, there's no
shortage of noisy and polluting,
or older-tech (carb'ed 2-stroke) engines still on the water in all
kinds of boats....that condition is far
from exclusive to the pwc world. And with all types of boats including
pwc's, the handwriting is clearly
on the wall, that an increasingly greater percentage of them will be
cleaner and quieter and less polluting
year after year due to market forces as well as government mandates.
That part of it is not really in my hand
or yours (I/we can't force individual people to retire their older
dirtier louder machines until they want to), but
happily, that's the way things are going and will continue to go.

The problem is that there is a huge prejudice against jet skiers. A
couple of posts on usenet are not going to change that. What will
change that is observable evidence by more and more people.

I just snipped out one of my usual long-winded responses - I'll just
say this, I think a lot of
progress has already been made, I don't really encounter any prejudiced
anti-pwc attitude
out in the real world, and I really don't see too many problems with it
going on out on the water,
and I'm out there a LOT, and cover a lot of ground and see a lot of
fellow pwc'ers coexisting and
interacting with all other fellow boaters, fishermen, law enforcement,
kayakers (oh I'm one of them too btw, don't know
if that would surprise you or anything - someone earlier in this thread
I remember opined that pwc'ers
probably don't really love the water or the outdoors, only speed, I
guess that stereotype is pretty much deflated), surfers, pretty
peacefully, successfully and non-problematically. I think a lot of it
is due to the mandatory education requirement that's been in effect for
the last five years or six
years or so around here in NY, NJ and Ct.

richforman
richforman

ok...

In article .com,
wrote:
Keep at it? I intend to, and I have been "at it" for years now...
by "it" I mean trying to educate people about pwc's, who uses them, and

Yep.

Not quite enough... suggestion... how about educating the ones who are
still on the water with the noisy, pollution machines. According to
your own words, those people are the ones giving your group a bad
name.

You're right - and I do that too. All of us more experienced
knowledgeable pwc'ers
always make it a point to take newer owners and operators out on the
water and
show them the ropes, try to help them avoid mistakes or let them know


Kewl.

year after year due to market forces as well as government mandates.
That part of it is not really in my hand
or yours (I/we can't force individual people to retire their older
dirtier louder machines until they want to), but

How about a buy back program... good deals on trade-ins.

The problem is that there is a huge prejudice against jet skiers. A
couple of posts on usenet are not going to change that. What will
change that is observable evidence by more and more people.

I just snipped out one of my usual long-winded responses - I'll just

:-)




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