This guy so far has managed to get nearly 50 replies to this question,
nearly 200 replies to a previous question. He hasn't done any sailing, he
doesn't seem to have read any sailing books.

He is choosing to post in a way that publices a marginal opinion group.

I reckon that spells Troll, or to be charitable someone with a suicidal
compulsion,

Either case he/she/it shouldn't be encouraged.


"New Conservative" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

First of all, what's a "survey" - when is it necessary and how much
does it cost?

Next: How long would it take to sail single-handedly from S/England to
the Windward Islands given average weather conditions at a reasonably
favorable time of year in a Contessa 32 or Nic 32?

Next: If one ends up in some distant safe harbor somewhere abroad;
what right (if any) does one have to simply tie-up at a convenient
mooring and go to sleep for say 24hrs? I'm thinking here about an
analogy with a deckchair dude; do you just 'park-up' and wait for
someone to charge you for your stay? And what prospect of getting a
space in such a harbor?

Finally, what's the difference between a "berth" and a "cabin"?

I realize these are stupid questions, but beg your indulgence.
--

"Suffer no one to tell you what to think."
Martin Smith, the New Conservative Party.

http://www.newconservativeparty.org

"Don White" wrote in
:

Boy...you must be a real 'ray of sunshine' at the boat shows! Do they
pay you to stay away?



No, but my Sea Ray dealer refused to service my crappy Sea Ray because I
didn't pay him $3500 more for it than I paid for it.......a great
reflection on Sea Ray, wouldn't you say?

Two boat shows ago, I took a friend who used to own a Hatteras 56 to the
local boatshow. I told him to please dress in the same clothes he mows his
lawn in, instead of that doctor's suit from Brooks Brothers that would be
SURE to attract the drooling sales wienies to trail us around and ruin the
show. He agreed.

Three dealers wouldn't let us look in their boats. Most of the others,
seeing our jeans and T-shirts, just ignored us as rabble. One young
salesman at Seel's Marine was nice enough to ask us if we had any questions
about the nice Grady-White (with Yamaha 150 Ocean) runabout we were looking
at. He wasn't threatening, wasn't nasty to us like most of the rest and
seemed genuinely interested in selling us this boat. As he came up to us,
I was head-first inside a cabinet looking at the fine fiberglass work the
Grady-White employees had done to a first-class hull. My friend says,
"What do you think, Larry?" I snapped my fingers while still hiding in the
cabinet and said, "Check Book." He wrote the kid the check for the show
price discount, about the time one of the bigshot suits came wandering over
to see if he needed to call the cops to get rid of us. We made sure the
kid got the commission for the sale as he was the only person we would talk
to. His boss seemed impressed...(c;

They brought the boat over that night and we headed out for the Cadillac
dealer to buy him a new Escalade to tow it with....just in case....(c;

I'm afraid I am a little embarrassing at boat shows, however. If I see a
piece of crap, I call it a piece of crap. Most new boats are, you know.
However, if I see a real beautiful machine, like that Hackercraft classic I
couldn't stop running my fingers over, I'm an exceptionally nice and
enthousiastic supporter. God they are beautiful. It almost seems criminal
to float them off the trailer, along with the Hinckleys and
Nissens.....(sigh)

Rosalie B. wrote in
:

I have never quite understood sleeping with my feet at the pointy end.
The first time I ever slept aboard a boat it was a charter, and we
were in the V-berth. I looked at it and instantly decided to sleep
with my head at the pointy end, and moved the pillows to that end.
It's not THAT narrow that both Bob and I can't both fit our heads
there. I'd rather have my head near his than my feet near his feet
or my head at his feet which would be completely unsatisfactory.


Rosalie, don't ever crawl into Lionheart's aft cabin with its full-width
double berth covered with that wonderful soft sheepskin my captain loves to
get the girls into.....(c;

Rosalie B. wrote in
:

On our boat, we have a hatch that is right over the V-berth and if we
leave it open at night and it rains, it rains on your face and alerts
you to get up and close the hatches. Also I can exit the V-berth
through this hatch to look at the sunrise without traipsing through
the main cabin or waking Bob up.



It doesn't rain in Lionheart's V-berth or head hatches because we always
put the PortaBote over both to make a little shelter for them. Works
great.

What's Bob doing sleeping in the main cabin, anyways?.....(c;

The reason I can't sleep head-first in a V-berth is my arms flail around in
my sleep too much. It's bad enough for one side to be against the hull.

Gogarty wrote in
:

I think I recall that original posting. Did you ever submit it to a
paying magazine? You should. It's great but not really suitable for
our Newsletter though I may print it out for a giveaway at our next
meeting. The other piece was perfect for the nesletter since the New
York Sailing Club is all about getting boat owners and clueless
potential crew together.




No, I never published it except here. Thanks for the positive comment,
however. Email it to whomever you like....

JR Gilbreath wrote in
:

Larry
I wasn't nice? What should I have said?
JR


I find silence the most effective weapon against a troll.....They just
can't stand it if they can't get a rise out of you...just like the bully at
the bar.

Just killfile him and move on.....

"Dan" wrote in
ups.com:

How? You've just said we're 60 hours away from the nearest thing to
hit! Are you saying the sea state will make the boat fall apart? Are
you saying the masts gonna fall down and break a hole in the hull? How
often have either of these things happened to UKRSers?

You really must watch "The Perfect Storm", the movie. It is a true story
and the swell reality shown pitchpoling the fishing vessel isn't just a
writer's fantasy. I could happen to YOU.


Rule 1 - It is ALWAYS better to be standing on the dock, wishing you
were
at sea....than to be at sea, wishing you were on the dock!

But if you're going to be 60 hours off shore you're gonna have make
sure you're boat is up to anything that might come along and chance the
weather.


There is no boat made that is "up to anything that might come
along".....well, less than maybe an icebreaker and that's iffy. You will
never own a boat that can survive "anything". The sea can take whatever
you buy and just turn it into rubble in a matter of minutes if it feels
like it. One of the greatest feelings of being at sea is the feeling of
total submission to the sea's will.

Wait until you've been sailing in the pitch dark for 11 hours, the sun
rises and you suddenly see some HUGE object just floating by that could
simply smash your hull to bits. I had that feeling coming up from Florida
about 180 miles off the Georgia Coast. We were eating breakfast with the
autopilot steering an Endeavour 35 sloop under sail, the radar watch set.
Just as I opened my mouth to fill it with more eggs benedict, this HUGE
CABLE REEL, made of wood and invisible to the radar, sailed by about 50
yards behind my other friend delivering the boat! It must have been 30'
diameter, 12' wide?...something like that. I went to look at it on the
radar and the 2KW Raymarine never made a blip, as it trailed away behind
us. If we'd hit that at 8 knots in the dark, it would have ripped the
Endeavour's bow clean off in the 6' swells we had the night before.

Been there, done that, had that sickening feeling, got the T-shirt.....

There's plenty to run into in the open ocean....besides those 50' waves
wiping the deck clean of sailing gear....

Larry W4CSC wrote:


Just killfile him and move on.....



Larry
You must have missed the one where I apologized but I'm not going to
get into that again anyway.
BTW, I live about 10 miles from your captain and used to work with
some people that lived in the same subdivision.
JR

So why are you encouraging him (she, it) by continuing to post?

"Nick Temple-Fry" theP wrote in message
...
This guy so far has managed to get nearly 50 replies to this question,
nearly 200 replies to a previous question. He hasn't done any sailing, he
doesn't seem to have read any sailing books.

He is choosing to post in a way that publices a marginal opinion group.

I reckon that spells Troll, or to be charitable someone with a suicidal
compulsion,

Either case he/she/it shouldn't be encouraged.


"New Conservative" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

First of all, what's a "survey" - when is it necessary and how much
does it cost?

Next: How long would it take to sail single-handedly from S/England to
the Windward Islands given average weather conditions at a reasonably
favorable time of year in a Contessa 32 or Nic 32?

Next: If one ends up in some distant safe harbor somewhere abroad;
what right (if any) does one have to simply tie-up at a convenient
mooring and go to sleep for say 24hrs? I'm thinking here about an
analogy with a deckchair dude; do you just 'park-up' and wait for
someone to charge you for your stay? And what prospect of getting a
space in such a harbor?

Finally, what's the difference between a "berth" and a "cabin"?

I realize these are stupid questions, but beg your indulgence.
--

"Suffer no one to tell you what to think."
Martin Smith, the New Conservative Party.

http://www.newconservativeparty.org

in message , Larry W4CSC
') wrote:

"Dan" wrote in
ups.com:

How? You've just said we're 60 hours away from the nearest thing to
hit! Are you saying the sea state will make the boat fall apart? Are
you saying the masts gonna fall down and break a hole in the hull?
How often have either of these things happened to UKRSers?

You really must watch "The Perfect Storm", the movie. It is a true
story and the swell reality shown pitchpoling the fishing vessel isn't
just a
writer's fantasy. I could happen to YOU.

It could, but it's exceptionally rare. You could be struck by lightning
out of a blue sky. It does happen. A meteorite could fall on your head.
Waves are a complex phenomenon and recent research shows that very big,
very steep waves are more common than was once thought. But open ocean
waves are nothing like as dangerous as closing a coast in dodgy
weather. Furthermore, most well-found monohulls will recover from being
rolled over by wave action (although my boat wouldn't).

Wait until you've been sailing in the pitch dark for 11 hours, the sun
rises and you suddenly see some HUGE object just floating by that
could simply smash your hull to bits.

It happens. If you're such a scaredy cat, why go sailing? You could
simply hide under your desk for the rest of your life.

--
(Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

pSchroedinger's cat is blinkstrongNOT/strong/blink dead./p