"Gavin Collinson" wrote in message
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"Dan" wrote in message
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Gavin Collinson wrote:

"If you take any training, you will realise that the
sea is a very unforgiving environment. "

I think you could argue the exact opposite. It's soft and no dangerous
in itself. You can make all sorts of mistakes in a yacht or powerboat
that would be fatal in a car or motorcycle.

Short of being tucked up in bed I think the sea is about the safest
place you can be!

I disagree. I am a relatively new qualified coastal skipper and I am
frequently surprised how quickly a sea will change from a benign
environment to one that is dangerous and forbidding. In my short
experience, you cannot take the sea for granted. In a car, you just pull
into the next layby.

Gavin

Dan's a bul****ter. Ignore him

"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message
.. .
Duncan, are you still be ****ed about losing the colonies?
JR

So you ARE American, and that DOES explain a lot!
PS How do you like owning Afghanistan and Iraq?

In article ,
Gavin Collinson wrote:
I disagree. I am a relatively new qualified coastal skipper

In which case I wouldn't argue too much with the sailors on this ng -
they have about a million miles of experience in all continents and
every weather condition

--
A T (Sandy) Morton
on the Bicycle Island
In the Global Village
http://www.millport.net

Fine. How does it feel being a lap dog?

Duncan Heenan wrote:

"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message
.. .

Duncan, are you still be ****ed about losing the colonies?
JR


So you ARE American, and that DOES explain a lot!
PS How do you like owning Afghanistan and Iraq?

JR Gilbreath wrote:

Fine. How does it feel being a lap dog?


this coming from someone living in an economy so ****ed it depends on former
commie pinko *******s the chinese to bankroll them while being forced to
engage in illegal acts of war against sovereign states to secure a supply
of oil in the meantime.

hand on heart with absolute honesty, for MANY years I would have gladly
swapped UK citizenship for USA citizenship, now, you probably could pay me
to work there, but not in dollars....



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"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message
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Fine. How does it feel being a lap dog?

Duncan Heenan wrote:

I wouldn't know. You should redirect your question to our dickhead of a
Prime Minister, who no longer enjoys wide support (I never did support him).

How does it feel being the World's Pariah?

Hi Duncan
Sorry but there will not be any more OT's for me. By the way I have
had some great mates that were Brits and also sailed with some of your
great sailers (male and female).
Cheers
JR

Duncan Heenan wrote:

"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message
.. .

Fine. How does it feel being a lap dog?

Duncan Heenan wrote:


I wouldn't know. You should redirect your question to our dickhead of a
Prime Minister, who no longer enjoys wide support (I never did support him).

How does it feel being the World's Pariah?

Duncan Heenan wrote:

"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message
.. .

Duncan, are you still be ****ed about losing the colonies?
JR


So you ARE American, and that DOES explain a lot!
PS How do you like owning Afghanistan and Iraq?

Fabulous! The price of gasoline is dropping like a stone thanks to, um,
all that oil in Afghanistan!

Stephen

"Duncan Heenan" wrote:
"Dan" wrote in message
roups.com...
Gavin Collinson wrote:

"If you take any training, you will realise that the
sea is a very unforgiving environment. "

I think you could argue the exact opposite. It's soft and no dangerous
in itself. You can make all sorts of mistakes in a yacht or powerboat
that would be fatal in a car or motorcycle.

Or an airplane, even though air is not very hard in and of itself.
Although water isn't that soft when you come into it from any height,
and if you don't keep on top of it, it's pretty dangerous to your
health unless you are a shark or fish.

In any case, almost all the problems come with the interface with land
from any type of vehicle or anything that moves a person around
including their own feet. Arguing relative hazardousness isn't very
productive unless it results in avoiding the hazards.


Short of being tucked up in bed I think the sea is about the safest
place you can be!

I think you might find the sea a bit colder than your bed at the moment,
even if softer.
Survival time immersed?

An occupational physician told me about the 50-50-50 rule. 50% of
people survive 50 minutes in water that is 50 degrees (F).



grandma Rosalie

in message , Sandy Morton
') wrote:

In article ,
Gavin Collinson wrote:
I disagree. I am a relatively new qualified coastal skipper

In which case I wouldn't argue too much with the sailors on this ng -
they have about a million miles of experience in all continents and
every weather condition

Yes, the logs of the good ship armchair make terrifying reading.

--
(Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

'there are no solutions, only precipitates'