"I Carry" wrote in message
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On Sat, 19 Feb 2005, "Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom
wrote:
I'm hearing a common theme. driving with doors unlocked, hitchhiking.
Anyone that doesn;t take responibility for their own safety cannot blame
anyone but themselves.

Doug

Rest snipped for brevity.

The common theme is that the criminals have the right to try to harm us
and
if we don't properly protect ourselves, it is our own fault?

Yup, but I don't see criminals or anybody else having a "right" to harm
anybody.
Everybody has a right and responsibility to protect themselves.

The car in this case was a vintage Ford Mustang. Manual doorlocks.
Forgetting to lock your doors after dropping your friends off makes the
car
jacker attempt OK. It was my son's fault for not locking the door. Don't
want to trample on a car jacker's constitutional rights to attempt it so
it
has to be my son's fault.

Has nothing to do with rights. It has to do with protecting one's self.
There are
bad people out there. Taking precautions increases one's chances of
survival.

My house has "low" windows. I suppose a house robber has the
constitutional
right to attempt to rob my house. If he succeeds, it is my fault because I
don't have steel bars over the windows.

Once again rights have nothing to do with. Not sure how the Constitution
figures
into this discussion. OK, it's not your fault that you are dead. Feel better
that you
were right? If you live in an area where home invasion is likely to happen,
then
lock your doors, put up bars, or whatever. Your safety is your
responsibility.

The lady that gets raped on her way back to her car in the mall parking
lot
had it coming.

Of course not. That is a different sutuation. But I would hope she has
learned
self defense, is carrying pepper spray, or a gun.

The rapist has constitutional rights to try to attack her.

There's that Consitiutional thing again. No one has a constitutional right
to
hurt anybody except in the case of self defense.

She was not a karate black belt and didn't have pepper spray at her
fingertips to ward off the attack.

She would be better prepared if she did. There is a reason they call them
"bad guys". They don't play be the rules of proper conduct.

The car that got stolen from the same mall parking lot was the owner's
fault.

No, but the owner is the one that no longer has a car.

The owner didn't have a proper burglar alarm system installed nor
did he have a contract for GPS tracking of the vehicle.

Yup. So his car is now gone.

The car thief had
the constitutional right to steal the car, the car owner didn't protect it
properly so it is the car owner's fault.

There's that constitution thing again. What do any of your arguments have to
do with Constitutional Rights? It all has to do with personal
responsibility.
If you want to stay alive and keep your stuff, you have to take steps to do
so. Has nothing to do with Rights, it has to do with reality.


I could go on and on. Please point out to me where the law says that would
be robbers, murderers, and thieves have the right to attempt to their
nefarious deeds and it is up to the potential victim to take whatever
steps
are required to protect himself and prevent the crime or it is the
victim's
fault.

Once again, it has nothing to do with Rights, it has to do with the reality
of the
world. It is your responsibility to protect your life and property because
no one
else will. If you think the Government is doing it you are fooling yourself.