Hi,

We are working on a Power Squadron study of the "cruising lifestyle". We
need estimates of the absolute number and percentages of cruising boats
carrying weapons. That is firearms, not flare pistols, starter pistols,
sling shots or spear guns.

We are not interested in the debate of whether or not to carry weapons,
or why cruisers carry.

We wish to estimate the numbers that have chosen to and actually possess
and carry while cruising, what they carry and where they go.

We would like to break it down by:

A - TYPE
1. hand gun
2. shot gun
3. rifle
4. line-throwing gun (safety equipment)
5. assault
6. cruiser grip, short barrel, large bore, home security weapons
7. other

B - MARINIZED (special finish, stainless steel)
1. yes
2. no

B - QUANTITY + CALIBER OF EACH WEAPON

C - TYPE AND AMOUNT OF AMMUNITION CARRIED (mushroom, hollow point, slug,
buck shot)

D - HOW STORED

E - CRUISING GROUNDS
1. America
2. Bahamas
3. Mexico
4. Canada
5. Central America
6. South America
7. Pacific Countries
8. Australia
9. Indian Ocean
10. Africa
11. Northern Europe
12. Mediterranean

Is anyone aware of any similar studies?

Any thoughts on how to collect this data?

We suspect the numbers are very low but have been asked to find some data
to support this conclusion.

Thanks.

Bob

Probably wouldn't be too wise for any Canadians to admit carrying firearms
on their boat.

A - TYPE
1. hand gun
2. shot gun
3. rifle
4. line-throwing gun (safety equipment)
5. assault
6. cruiser grip, short barrel, large bore,
home security weapons
7. other

Somehow I think a flare gun should have been explicitly
listed. Granted, it's safety equipment, but it'd be
more likely to be present than a line-throwing gun.

[HUMOR]
I also note that Light Anti-Tank Weapons are also
not listed. And what about Stinger missiles?
[/HUMOR]

Comment: I don't see much point to dealing with
this kind of questioning; after all,
what's the point?

Question: Don't most countries consider a cruiser
carrying weapons a *bad* thing?

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Spam Fighter wrote:
We are working on a Power Squadron study of the "cruising lifestyle". We
need estimates of the absolute number and percentages of cruising boats
carrying weapons. ...

We suspect the numbers are very low but have been asked to find some data
to support this conclusion.

Thanks.

Bob


This is an interesting post. Why does Bob Ranglin, working for Power
Squadron, mail under the ID Spam fighter )?

And why should anybody volunteer their personal information to this
dubious signature?

Especially as carrying personal firearms are prohibited in most countries one
would visit as a sailor.

Dag Stenberg
(far enough away to feel safe from prying)

On 17 Feb 2005 20:03:41 GMT, "Dag Stenberg"
wrote:

Spam Fighter wrote:
We are working on a Power Squadron study of the "cruising lifestyle". We
need estimates of the absolute number and percentages of cruising boats
carrying weapons. ...

We suspect the numbers are very low but have been asked to find some data
to support this conclusion.

Thanks.

Bob


This is an interesting post. Why does Bob Ranglin, working for Power
Squadron, mail under the ID Spam fighter )?

And why should anybody volunteer their personal information to this
dubious signature?

Especially as carrying personal firearms are prohibited in most countries one
would visit as a sailor.

Dag Stenberg
(far enough away to feel safe from prying)

Don't know about the userid, but if you are carrying firearms outside
US waters and plan to reply, PLEASE LIE! The last thing we need is to
have an "official auxiliary" (I speak of foreign perceptions) of the
US Gov't producing a study telling customs officials worldwide that
they should shake down every US flag yacht looking for guns. Granted
they may believe we're all armed to the teeth anyway, buy no need to
reinforce any suspicions.

There is no 2nd Amendment issue of preserving rights here. The 2nd
Amendment ends at the border. I'm neither advocating carrying guns
nor frowning on it. Just being practical.

My opinion and worth what you paid for it.



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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:34:31 GMT, "Glen \"Wiley\" Wilson"
wrote:

Don't know about the userid, but if you are carrying firearms outside
US waters and plan to reply, PLEASE LIE! The last thing we need is to
have an "official auxiliary" (I speak of foreign perceptions) of the
US Gov't producing a study telling customs officials worldwide that
they should shake down every US flag yacht looking for guns. Granted
they may believe we're all armed to the teeth anyway, buy no need to
reinforce any suspicions.

There is no 2nd Amendment issue of preserving rights here. The 2nd
Amendment ends at the border. I'm neither advocating carrying guns
nor frowning on it. Just being practical.

My opinion and worth what you paid for it.

When faced with questions like this, it is best to follow the advice
of confucious:

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's
mouth and remove all doubts.

Questions like this benefit nobody.

Weebles Wobble
(but they don't fall down)

Your'e kidding! You want law abiding citizens to tell a government group
what
firearms they have on their boat? Gimme a break!!!!

Doug

"Spam Fighter" wrote in message
news
Hi,

We are working on a Power Squadron study of the "cruising lifestyle". We
need estimates of the absolute number and percentages of cruising boats
carrying weapons. That is firearms, not flare pistols, starter pistols,
sling shots or spear guns.

We are not interested in the debate of whether or not to carry weapons,
or why cruisers carry.

We wish to estimate the numbers that have chosen to and actually possess
and carry while cruising, what they carry and where they go.

We would like to break it down by:

A - TYPE
1. hand gun
2. shot gun
3. rifle
4. line-throwing gun (safety equipment)
5. assault
6. cruiser grip, short barrel, large bore, home security weapons
7. other

B - MARINIZED (special finish, stainless steel)
1. yes
2. no

B - QUANTITY + CALIBER OF EACH WEAPON

C - TYPE AND AMOUNT OF AMMUNITION CARRIED (mushroom, hollow point, slug,
buck shot)

D - HOW STORED

E - CRUISING GROUNDS
1. America
2. Bahamas
3. Mexico
4. Canada
5. Central America
6. South America
7. Pacific Countries
8. Australia
9. Indian Ocean
10. Africa
11. Northern Europe
12. Mediterranean

Is anyone aware of any similar studies?

Any thoughts on how to collect this data?

We suspect the numbers are very low but have been asked to find some data
to support this conclusion.

Thanks.

Bob

spam fighter...i will let you know if you
try and rob me or my my boat......


richard
colorado

You know, it's funny. This question comes up all the time on the net,
but rarely, if ever, out here where people are actually doing it (we are
about to leave La Paz for points south). I can't remember the last time
the guns topic came up while talking with other cruisers. The sense I
get is that very few are actually carrying guns.
- Dan

Spam Fighter wrote:

Hi,

We are working on a Power Squadron study of the "cruising lifestyle". We
need estimates of the absolute number and percentages of cruising boats
carrying weapons. That is firearms, not flare pistols, starter pistols,
sling shots or spear guns.

We are not interested in the debate of whether or not to carry weapons,
or why cruisers carry.

We wish to estimate the numbers that have chosen to and actually possess
and carry while cruising, what they carry and where they go.

We would like to break it down by:

A - TYPE
1. hand gun
2. shot gun
3. rifle
4. line-throwing gun (safety equipment)
5. assault
6. cruiser grip, short barrel, large bore, home security weapons
7. other

B - MARINIZED (special finish, stainless steel)
1. yes
2. no

B - QUANTITY + CALIBER OF EACH WEAPON

C - TYPE AND AMOUNT OF AMMUNITION CARRIED (mushroom, hollow point, slug,
buck shot)

D - HOW STORED

E - CRUISING GROUNDS
1. America
2. Bahamas
3. Mexico
4. Canada
5. Central America
6. South America
7. Pacific Countries
8. Australia
9. Indian Ocean
10. Africa
11. Northern Europe
12. Mediterranean

Is anyone aware of any similar studies?

Any thoughts on how to collect this data?

We suspect the numbers are very low but have been asked to find some data
to support this conclusion.

Thanks.

Bob

I just remembered. Spam Fighter is one of JAXes aliases.

"~^ beancounter ~^" wrote in message
ups.com...
spam fighter...i will let you know if you
try and rob me or my my boat......


richard
colorado