Assuming dead men tell tales.

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On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 23:33:10 GMT, "Garuda" wrote:

Assuming dead men tell tales.

Isn't that the basis of all those forensics-based cop shows on TV
lately? Dead men are responsible for hundreds of scripts a year, it
seems. Even the "floaters".

R.

You can buy flair shells that are loaded with a powerful pepper spray
and you can have flair shells loaded with lead if you know someone
privately that can do it right, I have both and my guns are the heavy
duty metal type..My safety out there is my responsibility, nobody is
going to protect me but me, there is no 911..For those of you that
refuse to arm yourselfs please do not advertise it on the web, that is
just stupid. Goto www.firequest.com ,,catalog/flair...

rhys wrote in message . ..
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 23:33:10 GMT, "Garuda" wrote:

Assuming dead men tell tales.

Isn't that the basis of all those forensics-based cop shows on TV
lately? Dead men are responsible for hundreds of scripts a year, it
seems. Even the "floaters".

R.

Craig wrote:

You can buy flair shells that are loaded with a powerful pepper spray
and you can have flair shells loaded with lead if you know someone
privately that can do it right, I have both and my guns are the heavy
duty metal type..My safety out there is my responsibility, nobody is
going to protect me but me, there is no 911..For those of you that
refuse to arm yourselfs please do not advertise it on the web, that is
just stupid. Goto www.firequest.com ,,catalog/flair...

Although you probably are a typical & dangerous gunnut, the product might
be usefull.
The correct link is: http://www.firequest.com/catalog/flares.html

Personally I'd look for something that protects me while I am sleeping
etc. Not something I have to have within reach, as that can only increase
the uneasiness. You cannot feel safe if you have to have a weapon nearby
all the time, and that defeats the whole purpose of sailing.
Something like a high voltage wire around the outside of the boat, that
would produce a non-lethal shock when touched and turns on some lights &
sounds. You'd have to make sure you don't get false alarms though, an
anchorage with every five minutes a car-alarm going off would not be very
enjoyable. And frying the local boys that want to sell you some bread will
also be frowned upon, i'd guess.

--
vriendelijke groeten/kind regards,

Jelle

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"Jelle" wrote in message
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Craig wrote:

Although you probably are a typical & dangerous gunnut, the product might
be usefull.

You'll have to further differentiate between typical and dangerous and
gunnut (gunnut: can't find that word in the dictionary). Most gunnuts
(your term) are normal folks. Matter of fact they are generally the most
conscientious and safest owners of guns.

The correct link is: http://www.firequest.com/catalog/flares.html

Thanks! I was having trouble tracking it down. Being so anti-weapon
it is interesting that you knew it and are willing to forward to along.
Seems to me that you would make every effort to supress the proliferation
of such things.

Personally I'd look for something that protects me while I am sleeping
etc. Not something I have to have within reach, as that can only increase
the uneasiness.

Are there other inanimate objects you are scared of?

You cannot feel safe if you have to have a weapon nearby
all the time,

I feel very safe with a weapon at close reach. Are you afraid that the
weapon is going to jump up and attack you?

and that defeats the whole purpose of sailing.

That's silly!

Doug
s/v Callista

Most gunnuts
(your term) are normal folks.

no, they are not at all normal. They are the short sticks and those who
believe themselves to be short sticks.

you know, the guys who can't get laid but even by the fat chicks.

Jesus Jax, Your going farking balmy in your old age. You were bad
before but now your right off the bleedin' wall, mate. You disappeared
for a while and life was good around here at rbc but now your back and
like Bobsprit, your
like killer bees, fire ants, wasps and skeeters....... a major
irritation. Are you really John Ashby from Manhattan?
I would love to get together for a coffee. Keep on ranting and the big
guys in the white jackets are taking you to
Bellevue in short order. Were you kicked as a child perhaps? Now try
to be nice.........

JAXAshby wrote:

Most gunnuts
(your term) are normal folks.



no, they are not at all normal. They are the short sticks and those who
believe themselves to be short sticks.

you know, the guys who can't get laid but even by the fat chicks.

Doug Dotson wrote:


"Jelle" wrote in message
...
Craig wrote:

Although you probably are a typical & dangerous gunnut, the product
might
be usefull.

You'll have to further differentiate between typical and dangerous and
gunnut (gunnut: can't find that word in the dictionary). Most gunnuts
(your term) are normal folks. Matter of fact they are generally the most
conscientious and safest owners of guns.

Maybe. But the gunnut that does not own any guns is miles safer, to himself
and his surroundings.
generalizing Having lots of gunnuts in a culture is indicative of a
culture where is is normal to solve conflicts by the use of guns. And that
is very dangerous don't you think? /generalizing

The correct link is: http://www.firequest.com/catalog/flares.html

Thanks! I was having trouble tracking it down.
It was a tough and hard job to click that faulty link yes.
Being so anti-weapon
How would you know?
it is interesting that you knew it and are willing to forward to along.

I may not agree to his or your opinions, but he has every right to speak
about them. I saw his own inability to place the correct link as and
obstruction to this right of free speech so I solved that for him.

Besides, if it saves one live because some gunnut chose to load this shell
instead one paked with lead, then that is a positive thing.

Seems to me that you would make every effort to supress the proliferation
of such things.

In my country it is already prohibited. The gun is, and the shells are. The
number of peole killed per capita is orders of magnitude lower than the
USA's. Indeed only criminals have guns, and they use them to kill other
criminals. There are gunnuts here too, but most can only get horny from
pictures of guns as they (luckily) don't have the real thing.

Personally I'd look for something that protects me while I am sleeping
etc. Not something I have to have within reach, as that can only increase
the uneasiness.

Are there other inanimate objects you are scared of?

yes: you.

You cannot feel safe if you have to have a weapon nearby
all the time,

I feel very safe with a weapon at close reach. Are you afraid that the
weapon is going to jump up and attack you?

If you feel safer in an area where you don't need that gun at close hand,
you were not feeling safe before. JAX usually is full of gas, but he summed
it up quite nicely.

and that defeats the whole purpose of sailing.

That's silly!

I pity you for your constant distrust and fear. But you don't have to defend
you position, nor will i defend mine on this subject. It is irrelevant in
this ng, and irrelevant because neither of us will convince eachother nor
anybody else. it is just a moot discussion.

I found i quite interesting to see that you completely disregarded the
non-offensive solution I proposed. But you cannot hold that one in your
hand so you probably are not interested in it
--
vriendelijke groeten/kind regards,

Jelle

"Jelle" wrote in message
...
Doug Dotson wrote:


"Jelle" wrote in message
...
Craig wrote:

Although you probably are a typical & dangerous gunnut, the product
might
be usefull.

You'll have to further differentiate between typical and dangerous and
gunnut (gunnut: can't find that word in the dictionary). Most gunnuts
(your term) are normal folks. Matter of fact they are generally the most
conscientious and safest owners of guns.

Maybe. But the gunnut that does not own any guns is miles safer, to
himself
and his surroundings.
generalizing Having lots of gunnuts in a culture is indicative of a
culture where is is normal to solve conflicts by the use of guns. And that
is very dangerous don't you think? /generalizing

No. As a very famous person once said: An armed society is a polite society.
Interestingly enough, the Founding Fathers wished all citizens to be armed.
Herse, the Second Amendment.

The correct link is: http://www.firequest.com/catalog/flares.html

Thanks! I was having trouble tracking it down.
It was a tough and hard job to click that faulty link yes.
Being so anti-weapon
How would you know?
it is interesting that you knew it and are willing to forward to along.

I may not agree to his or your opinions, but he has every right to speak
about them. I saw his own inability to place the correct link as and
obstruction to this right of free speech so I solved that for him.

Besides, if it saves one live because some gunnut chose to load this shell
instead one paked with lead, then that is a positive thing.

Seems to me that you would make every effort to supress the proliferation
of such things.

In my country it is already prohibited. The gun is, and the shells are.
The
number of peole killed per capita is orders of magnitude lower than the
USA's. Indeed only criminals have guns, and they use them to kill other
criminals. There are gunnuts here too, but most can only get horny from
pictures of guns as they (luckily) don't have the real thing.

Personally I'd look for something that protects me while I am sleeping
etc. Not something I have to have within reach, as that can only
increase
the uneasiness.

Are there other inanimate objects you are scared of?

yes: you.

You cannot feel safe if you have to have a weapon nearby
all the time,

I feel very safe with a weapon at close reach. Are you afraid that the
weapon is going to jump up and attack you?

If you feel safer in an area where you don't need that gun at close hand,
you were not feeling safe before. JAX usually is full of gas, but he
summed
it up quite nicely.

and that defeats the whole purpose of sailing.

That's silly!

I pity you for your constant distrust and fear. But you don't have to
defend
you position, nor will i defend mine on this subject. It is irrelevant in
this ng, and irrelevant because neither of us will convince eachother nor
anybody else. it is just a moot discussion.

Correct.

I found i quite interesting to see that you completely disregarded the
non-offensive solution I proposed. But you cannot hold that one in your
hand so you probably are not interested in it
--
vriendelijke groeten/kind regards,

Jelle

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:25:42 +0200,
Jelle wrote:
Craig wrote:

You can buy flair shells that are loaded with a powerful pepper spray
and you can have flair shells loaded with lead if you know someone
privately that can do it right, I have both and my guns are the heavy
duty metal type..My safety out there is my responsibility, nobody is
going to protect me but me, there is no 911..For those of you that
refuse to arm yourselfs please do not advertise it on the web, that is
just stupid. Goto www.firequest.com ,,catalog/flair...

Although you probably are a typical & dangerous gunnut, the product might
be usefull.
The correct link is: http://www.firequest.com/catalog/flares.html

Personally I'd look for something that protects me while I am sleeping
etc. Not something I have to have within reach, as that can only increase
the uneasiness. You cannot feel safe if you have to have a weapon nearby
all the time, and that defeats the whole purpose of sailing.
Something like a high voltage wire around the outside of the boat, that
would produce a non-lethal shock when touched and turns on some lights &
sounds. You'd have to make sure you don't get false alarms though, an
anchorage with every five minutes a car-alarm going off would not be very
enjoyable. And frying the local boys that want to sell you some bread will
also be frowned upon, i'd guess.


I don't feel comfortable unless there's a fire extinguisher close to
hand, does that defeat the point of sailing?

--
Jim Richardson http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
"`If there's anything more important than my ego around, I
want it caught and shot now.'"
-- Zaphod