On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 16:28:34 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:45:05 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

So true. Why, just yesterday I was in a crossing situation with my 6-foot,
2HP motor dinghy having on her port bow a fifty-foot trawler. Did the
trawler do anything but stand on causing me to have to turn to port and pass
astern to avoid a collision? Negative.

Was the trawler restricted in ability to maneuver?

Did you sound the danger signal?

Did you attempt to contact them in advance on VHF channel 13 or 16?

Admiralty Court would probably find you both liable in the event of a
collision, if only because it is fooliish to challenge a much larger
vessel for the right of way.

Perhaps the trawler guy knew who he was :-?
Cheers,

Bruce

"Bruce" wrote in message
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 16:28:34 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:45:05 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

So true. Why, just yesterday I was in a crossing situation with my
6-foot,
2HP motor dinghy having on her port bow a fifty-foot trawler. Did the
trawler do anything but stand on causing me to have to turn to port and
pass
astern to avoid a collision? Negative.

Was the trawler restricted in ability to maneuver?

Did you sound the danger signal?

Did you attempt to contact them in advance on VHF channel 13 or 16?

Admiralty Court would probably find you both liable in the event of a
collision, if only because it is fooliish to challenge a much larger
vessel for the right of way.

Perhaps the trawler guy knew who he was :-?
Cheers,

Bruce



It was probably Wayne B. Wouldn't surprise me if the Rube is pulling a
Donald Crowhurst act claiming to have sailed up to the North East while he
is still motoring up and down the Intracoastal Waterway in the Keys because
he's too frightened to sail open water.

Wilbur Hubbard

"WaIIy" wrote in message
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:45:05 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"otnmbrd" wrote in message
.3.70...


Prime example of that great American idea... "everyone else is
responsible
for my irresponsibility" coupled with that other great American idea of
"deep pockets"


So true. Why, just yesterday I was in a crossing situation with my 6-foot,
2HP motor dinghy having on her port bow a fifty-foot trawler. Did the
trawler do anything but stand on causing me to have to turn to port and
pass
astern to avoid a collision? Negative. Probably well fewer than half the
people operating motorboats these days know or understand the simplest of
the Rules of the Road. It's a crying shame. And even sadder is the fact
that
they will litigate rather than admit they are in the wrong if and when
they
cause a collision.

Wilbur Hubbard



I can just see you going down a channel in your rubber boat.

Probably looks like a pinball machine.



It's a GRP pram. Bluff bow and all . . . I don't like those inflatables.
They should rename them to 'defalatables'.

Joe wrote:
Here is some interesting news that you need to know.

Captain vs Operator responsibility.

http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...04&#post823285

Joe




Joe posted a link to an interesting article directly related to boating,
and it immediately becomes a ****ing match with Wili.




--

Richard Lamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~sv_temptress

"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Joe wrote:
Here is some interesting news that you need to know.

Captain vs Operator responsibility.

http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...04&#post823285

Joe posted a link to an interesting article directly related to boating,
and it immediately becomes a ****ing match with Wili.



Have you examined the cause of situation? I replied to Joe's post making a
very valid point which is a paraphrase of the old saw that says, "Those who
can, do; those who cannot, teach." Rather than address that very valid
point, my detractors attacked me personally with one ad hominem after
another.

Unfortunately, some folks then blame me for some sort of intentional
misdirect when I had nothing to do with how those other Rubes reacted to my
post by derailing the thread.

Wilbur Hubbard

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Joe wrote:
Here is some interesting news that you need to know.

Captain vs Operator responsibility.

http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...04&#post823285
Joe posted a link to an interesting article directly related to boating,
and it immediately becomes a ****ing match with Wili.



Have you examined the cause of situation? I replied to Joe's post making a
very valid point which is a paraphrase of the old saw that says, "Those who
can, do; those who cannot, teach." Rather than address that very valid
point, my detractors attacked me personally with one ad hominem after
another.

Unfortunately, some folks then blame me for some sort of intentional
misdirect when I had nothing to do with how those other Rubes reacted to my
post by derailing the thread.

Wilbur Hubbard




Yeah.

The cause of the situation is YOU.



--

Richard Lamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~sv_temptress

"CaveLamb" wrote in message
...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Joe wrote:
Here is some interesting news that you need to know.

Captain vs Operator responsibility.

http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...04&#post823285
Joe posted a link to an interesting article directly related to boating,
and it immediately becomes a ****ing match with Wili.



Have you examined the cause of situation? I replied to Joe's post making
a very valid point which is a paraphrase of the old saw that says, "Those
who can, do; those who cannot, teach." Rather than address that very
valid point, my detractors attacked me personally with one ad hominem
after another.

Unfortunately, some folks then blame me for some sort of intentional
misdirect when I had nothing to do with how those other Rubes reacted to
my post by derailing the thread.


Yeah.

The cause of the situation is YOU.


So, the responsibility lies with me with respect to how others respond to
me?

Ludicrous!


Wilbur Hubbard

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Joe wrote:
Here is some interesting news that you need to know.

Captain vs Operator responsibility.

http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...04&#post823285
Joe posted a link to an interesting article directly related to boating,
and it immediately becomes a ****ing match with Wili.


Have you examined the cause of situation? I replied to Joe's post making
a very valid point which is a paraphrase of the old saw that says, "Those
who can, do; those who cannot, teach." Rather than address that very
valid point, my detractors attacked me personally with one ad hominem
after another.

Unfortunately, some folks then blame me for some sort of intentional
misdirect when I had nothing to do with how those other Rubes reacted to
my post by derailing the thread.


Yeah.

The cause of the situation is YOU.


So, the responsibility lies with me with respect to how others respond to
me?

Ludicrous!


Wilbur Hubbard



It's not that, Willie.

It's just that you are so obnoxious they just love to tease you.


--

Richard Lamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~sv_temptress

On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 17:15:43 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"CaveLamb" wrote in message
...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Joe wrote:
Here is some interesting news that you need to know.

Captain vs Operator responsibility.

http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...04&#post823285
Joe posted a link to an interesting article directly related to boating,
and it immediately becomes a ****ing match with Wili.



Have you examined the cause of situation? I replied to Joe's post making
a very valid point which is a paraphrase of the old saw that says, "Those
who can, do; those who cannot, teach." Rather than address that very
valid point, my detractors attacked me personally with one ad hominem
after another.

Unfortunately, some folks then blame me for some sort of intentional
misdirect when I had nothing to do with how those other Rubes reacted to
my post by derailing the thread.


Yeah.

The cause of the situation is YOU.


So, the responsibility lies with me with respect to how others respond to
me?

Ludicrous!


Wilbur Hubbard

Of course you are wrong again - damn but it is getting to be a habit,
isn't it?

You act like a horse's ass and amazingly you get treated as a horse's
ass. Are you saying that it isn't your fault that you act like a
horse's ass? That the devil made you do it?

As your momma probably should have taught you - you make your bed and
you lay in it.

Cheers,

Bruce

On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:37:45 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"CaveLamb" wrote in message
om...
Joe wrote:
Here is some interesting news that you need to know.

Captain vs Operator responsibility.

http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...04&#post823285

Joe posted a link to an interesting article directly related to boating,
and it immediately becomes a ****ing match with Wili.



Have you examined the cause of situation? I replied to Joe's post making a
very valid point which is a paraphrase of the old saw that says, "Those who
can, do; those who cannot, teach." Rather than address that very valid
point, my detractors attacked me personally with one ad hominem after
another.

By God Willie, you've hit the nail on the head, "those who can do and
those who can't talk about it".

One can only assume that you are one of the latter as you talk about
it incessantly.


Unfortunately, some folks then blame me for some sort of intentional
misdirect when I had nothing to do with how those other Rubes reacted to my
post by derailing the thread.

Wilbur Hubbard

Cheers,

Bruce