"Bruce" wrote in message
...

trim

Speaking about jokes.... a fictitious nobody, who's only claim to fame
is his defrauding of a store to obtain batteries, writing about a real
person?


So, I guess you're claiming I'm a computer program like in The Matrix?

Wilbur Hubbard

"Bruce" wrote in message
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 16:28:34 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:45:05 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

So true. Why, just yesterday I was in a crossing situation with my
6-foot,
2HP motor dinghy having on her port bow a fifty-foot trawler. Did the
trawler do anything but stand on causing me to have to turn to port and
pass
astern to avoid a collision? Negative.

Was the trawler restricted in ability to maneuver?

Did you sound the danger signal?

Did you attempt to contact them in advance on VHF channel 13 or 16?

Admiralty Court would probably find you both liable in the event of a
collision, if only because it is fooliish to challenge a much larger
vessel for the right of way.

Perhaps the trawler guy knew who he was :-?
Cheers,

Bruce



It was probably Wayne B. Wouldn't surprise me if the Rube is pulling a
Donald Crowhurst act claiming to have sailed up to the North East while he
is still motoring up and down the Intracoastal Waterway in the Keys because
he's too frightened to sail open water.

Wilbur Hubbard

"Bruce" wrote in message
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:45:05 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"otnmbrd" wrote in message
.3.70...


Prime example of that great American idea... "everyone else is
responsible
for my irresponsibility" coupled with that other great American idea of
"deep pockets"


So true. Why, just yesterday I was in a crossing situation with my 6-foot,
2HP motor dinghy having on her port bow a fifty-foot trawler. Did the
trawler do anything but stand on causing me to have to turn to port and
pass
astern to avoid a collision? Negative. Probably well fewer than half the
people operating motorboats these days know or understand the simplest of
the Rules of the Road. It's a crying shame. And even sadder is the fact
that
they will litigate rather than admit they are in the wrong if and when
they
cause a collision.

Wilbur Hubbard

Ah willie-boy, but I see you are another of the great unwashed loudly
trumpeting "His Rights". I assume that you have firmly fixed in your
pointy little head all the rules of the roads and if in your tiny
little sailboat would demand that the Emma Maersk give way.

You stand a long way from reality.
Cheers,



Ah! I see you don't understand even the basics of the COLREG Rules of the
Road.

The meeting and crossing rules confer specific legal rights and duties of
all vessels involved when it comes to collision avoidance. Briefly, the
Rules that apply to a crossing situation state the vessels involved may not
deviate from following the Rules up to the point where following the Rules
would result in a close-quarters situation and possible collision. One is
only released from the obligations under the Rules when it is necessary to
take other actions to avoid a collision.

The primary duty of vessels meeting is to avoid a close quarters situation
by taking the proper action in plenty of time to avoid a close quarters
situation. That a vessel does not do so, as in the case of the trawler, is a
good indication that the helmsman thereof has his head up his ass - but this
should come as no surprise as that is the usual state of affairs respecting
motor boat helmsmen these days. Big bank accounts/small cranial capacity.

Wilbur Hubbard

Joe wrote:
Here is some interesting news that you need to know.

Captain vs Operator responsibility.

http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...04&#post823285

Joe




Joe posted a link to an interesting article directly related to boating,
and it immediately becomes a ****ing match with Wili.




--

Richard Lamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~sv_temptress

"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:45:05 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"otnmbrd" wrote in message
.3.70...


Prime example of that great American idea... "everyone else is
responsible
for my irresponsibility" coupled with that other great American idea of
"deep pockets"


So true. Why, just yesterday I was in a crossing situation with my 6-foot,
2HP motor dinghy having on her port bow a fifty-foot trawler. Did the
trawler do anything but stand on causing me to have to turn to port and
pass
astern to avoid a collision? Negative. Probably well fewer than half the
people operating motorboats these days know or understand the simplest of
the Rules of the Road. It's a crying shame. And even sadder is the fact
that
they will litigate rather than admit they are in the wrong if and when
they
cause a collision.

Wilbur Hubbard



I can just see you going down a channel in your rubber boat.

Probably looks like a pinball machine.



It's a GRP pram. Bluff bow and all . . . I don't like those inflatables.
They should rename them to 'defalatables'.

"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Joe wrote:
Here is some interesting news that you need to know.

Captain vs Operator responsibility.

http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...04&#post823285

Joe posted a link to an interesting article directly related to boating,
and it immediately becomes a ****ing match with Wili.



Have you examined the cause of situation? I replied to Joe's post making a
very valid point which is a paraphrase of the old saw that says, "Those who
can, do; those who cannot, teach." Rather than address that very valid
point, my detractors attacked me personally with one ad hominem after
another.

Unfortunately, some folks then blame me for some sort of intentional
misdirect when I had nothing to do with how those other Rubes reacted to my
post by derailing the thread.

Wilbur Hubbard

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Joe wrote:
Here is some interesting news that you need to know.

Captain vs Operator responsibility.

http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...04&#post823285
Joe posted a link to an interesting article directly related to boating,
and it immediately becomes a ****ing match with Wili.



Have you examined the cause of situation? I replied to Joe's post making a
very valid point which is a paraphrase of the old saw that says, "Those who
can, do; those who cannot, teach." Rather than address that very valid
point, my detractors attacked me personally with one ad hominem after
another.

Unfortunately, some folks then blame me for some sort of intentional
misdirect when I had nothing to do with how those other Rubes reacted to my
post by derailing the thread.

Wilbur Hubbard




Yeah.

The cause of the situation is YOU.



--

Richard Lamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~sv_temptress

"CaveLamb" wrote in message
...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Joe wrote:
Here is some interesting news that you need to know.

Captain vs Operator responsibility.

http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...04&#post823285
Joe posted a link to an interesting article directly related to boating,
and it immediately becomes a ****ing match with Wili.



Have you examined the cause of situation? I replied to Joe's post making
a very valid point which is a paraphrase of the old saw that says, "Those
who can, do; those who cannot, teach." Rather than address that very
valid point, my detractors attacked me personally with one ad hominem
after another.

Unfortunately, some folks then blame me for some sort of intentional
misdirect when I had nothing to do with how those other Rubes reacted to
my post by derailing the thread.


Yeah.

The cause of the situation is YOU.


So, the responsibility lies with me with respect to how others respond to
me?

Ludicrous!


Wilbur Hubbard

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Joe wrote:
Here is some interesting news that you need to know.

Captain vs Operator responsibility.

http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...04&#post823285
Joe posted a link to an interesting article directly related to boating,
and it immediately becomes a ****ing match with Wili.


Have you examined the cause of situation? I replied to Joe's post making
a very valid point which is a paraphrase of the old saw that says, "Those
who can, do; those who cannot, teach." Rather than address that very
valid point, my detractors attacked me personally with one ad hominem
after another.

Unfortunately, some folks then blame me for some sort of intentional
misdirect when I had nothing to do with how those other Rubes reacted to
my post by derailing the thread.


Yeah.

The cause of the situation is YOU.


So, the responsibility lies with me with respect to how others respond to
me?

Ludicrous!


Wilbur Hubbard



It's not that, Willie.

It's just that you are so obnoxious they just love to tease you.


--

Richard Lamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~sv_temptress

"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Joe wrote:
Here is some interesting news that you need to know.

Captain vs Operator responsibility.

http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...04&#post823285
Joe posted a link to an interesting article directly related to
boating,
and it immediately becomes a ****ing match with Wili.


Have you examined the cause of situation? I replied to Joe's post
making a very valid point which is a paraphrase of the old saw that
says, "Those who can, do; those who cannot, teach." Rather than address
that very valid point, my detractors attacked me personally with one ad
hominem after another.

Unfortunately, some folks then blame me for some sort of intentional
misdirect when I had nothing to do with how those other Rubes reacted
to my post by derailing the thread.


Yeah.

The cause of the situation is YOU.


So, the responsibility lies with me with respect to how others respond to
me?

Ludicrous!


Wilbur Hubbard

It's not that, Willie.

It's just that you are so obnoxious they just love to tease you.


I think they enjoy hitching their wagons to a star.

Wilbur Hubbard