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Are you the Skipper or is the Helmsman ?
"Bruce" wrote in message
... trim Ah, but you obviously don't understand - he is Willie the boy wonder and is never wrong. Therefore the world is expected to stop and gaze in wonder when he passes by. I bet I know the COLREGS far better than you do, Bruce, or you wouldn't be making such ignorant statements about them. You apparently have no clue as to the crossing situation rules for sailboats and for motorboats and for combinations thereof. Wilbur Hubbard |
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Are you the Skipper or is the Helmsman ?
"Bruce" wrote in message
... On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 11:15:26 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Bruce" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:45:05 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "otnmbrd" wrote in message 68.3.70... Prime example of that great American idea... "everyone else is responsible for my irresponsibility" coupled with that other great American idea of "deep pockets" So true. Why, just yesterday I was in a crossing situation with my 6-foot, 2HP motor dinghy having on her port bow a fifty-foot trawler. Did the trawler do anything but stand on causing me to have to turn to port and pass astern to avoid a collision? Negative. Probably well fewer than half the people operating motorboats these days know or understand the simplest of the Rules of the Road. It's a crying shame. And even sadder is the fact that they will litigate rather than admit they are in the wrong if and when they cause a collision. Wilbur Hubbard Ah willie-boy, but I see you are another of the great unwashed loudly trumpeting "His Rights". I assume that you have firmly fixed in your pointy little head all the rules of the roads and if in your tiny little sailboat would demand that the Emma Maersk give way. You stand a long way from reality. Cheers, Ah! I see you don't understand even the basics of the COLREG Rules of the Road. The meeting and crossing rules confer specific legal rights and duties of all vessels involved when it comes to collision avoidance. Briefly, the Rules that apply to a crossing situation state the vessels involved may not deviate from following the Rules up to the point where following the Rules would result in a close-quarters situation and possible collision. One is only released from the obligations under the Rules when it is necessary to take other actions to avoid a collision. The primary duty of vessels meeting is to avoid a close quarters situation by taking the proper action in plenty of time to avoid a close quarters situation. That a vessel does not do so, as in the case of the trawler, is a good indication that the helmsman thereof has his head up his ass - but this should come as no surprise as that is the usual state of affairs respecting motor boat helmsmen these days. Big bank accounts/small cranial capacity. Wilbur Hubbard Unfortunately you are wrong. While the rules of the road do describe various situations and provide guide lines for who should do what, they are not laws, per se. In the instance you described why didn't you copy down the offending vessel's particulars and report him to the Coast Guard? Had you would they have trundled out and arrested him?No they wouldn't because no law had been broken. While you may argue about this it is fact that busy harbors all have "harbor regulations" that are laws and you will be punished if you break them. Run into the West bound traffic lane while heading East in Singapore harbor and you will be stopped and you will be prosecuted in Singapore courts and not a mention of the colregs. A few years ago this did happen and a collision occurred and blame was apportioned and the court never even mentioned colregs during discussions. As usual willie-boy you are wrong. Cheers, Bruce You should try reading with comprehension, Bruce. Try reading what I wrote again and then ask yourself where you ever managed to come up with the erroneous statement that I said the COLREGS were 'laws'. What I did say was the Rules confer specific legal rights and duties respecting vessels and vessel traffic. And, yes, one may be cited by the Coast Guard for a violation of the Rules. And, when it comes to litigation purposes, the Rules figure prominently in the maritime proceedings. If you are ignorant of the Rules and your ignorance leads to a collision then chances are VERY GOOD your insurance company will end up paying the lion's share of the costs. Now, my advice to you would be to study the COLREGS. Perhaps even take some sort of boating class that includes a study of the COLREGS. Do your fellow boater a favor and lose your ignorance. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On 26/06/2011 10:36 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 08:25:24 +0700, wrote: You act like a horse's ass and amazingly you get treated as a horse's ass. Are you saying that it isn't your fault that you act like a horse's ass? That the devil made you do it? Wilbur is one of those individuals who is starved for attention so he trolls and insults on Usenet to get a conversation started. Sick? Of course. Best to ignore and not feed the trolls. Hey Wayne up there in Noo Yawk. Settlement on our boat tomorrow - money went into the broker's escrow a/c this afternoon, sign t/f papers in the morning. When you come back through Annapolis, see if we can meet up. Hoges in WA, but about to move over that big-ass bridge. |
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