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"Jessica B" wrote in message
... On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:23:19 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 16:23:02 -0800, Jessica B wrote: On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 19:05:11 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 14:30:04 -0800, Jessica B wrote: Why do they charge $100 for that card ..TIWC? Seems like it's kind of over the top. What does it get you? It gets you a fancy ID card that has all of your biometric data, including fingerprints, encoded on to an internal chip. All people involved in public transportation are now required to have one. Sounds like it gets the government a whole lot more than they need for people who take a few people sailing. I guess I could see it for a tanker or a ferry or something. I really wouldn't want all that info on a chip. Typical government stuff, one size fits all. We had a joke in the army that you could have any color shirt you wanted as long as it was green. That joke obviously predates today's fancy desert camouflage outfits. The idea with the TWIC card is to ensure that all people with access to port infrastructure areas, docks, builldings, etc., have proper security credentials. It's entirely possible that our friend in question has some sort of, uhhh, "issue" in his past that would preclude security authorization. Or, more likely, he's just as tired of needless paperwork as I am. Right. You call it the mommy state and I call it Big Brother but it's all the same. A bunch of control-freak bureaucrats with their make-work paper pushing lording over and riding on the backs of productive citizens with their elitist hypocrite attitude. It's just too much at times. Then you have some liberal like WayneB, who was probably born with a silver spoon in his mouth, casting aspersions upon the character of his moral and ethical betters. People who side with the bloated federal government are worse than despicable. They are leeches, for the most part. Several articles that came out a year or two ago proved that the richest people give the least to charity. Democrats, in particular, have an abysmal charity record compared to Republicans but, if you listen to their lies, you'd think it was the other way around. Wilbur Hubbard |
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Then you have some liberal like WayneB, who was probably born with a silver
spoon in his mouth, casting aspersions upon the character of his moral and ethical betters. People who side with the bloated federal government are worse than despicable. Personally I was born a poor white boy. My moma at age 18 went to work as a welder in WW2 building Liberty Ships. My mom got knocked up when she was welding in the Bremerton shipyard around teh Korean war.. Thats where I came about. I spent my child hood in orchards cause she had to pick fruit and work in laundries cause nobody would hire a woman welder. I had to work hard for evey thing I got cause she OR the goventment couldnt/wouldnt give me ****. Sooo I learned an an education was my way up and out and as my education taught me how to be a: 1) Independent life long learner 2) critical consumer of media I learnde the REpublican party does not want people education past 12th grade. Why????????? Bob Democrats, in particular, have an abysmal charity record compared to Republicans but, if you listen to their lies, you'd think it was the other way around. Wilbur Hubbard- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 18:20:26 -0800 (PST), Bob
wrote: Then you have some liberal like WayneB, who was probably born with a silver spoon in his mouth, casting aspersions upon the character of his moral and ethical betters. People who side with the bloated federal government are worse than despicable. Personally I was born a poor white boy. My moma at age 18 went to work as a welder in WW2 building Liberty Ships. My mom got knocked up when she was welding in the Bremerton shipyard around teh Korean war.. Thats where I came about. I spent my child hood in orchards cause she had to pick fruit and work in laundries cause nobody would hire a woman welder. I had to work hard for evey thing I got cause she OR the goventment couldnt/wouldnt give me ****. Sooo I learned an an education was my way up and out and as my education taught me how to be a: 1) Independent life long learner 2) critical consumer of media I learnde the REpublican party does not want people education past 12th grade. Why????????? I just did a quick google search and the average years of education in the US is 12. In fact, we lead the world in that number. So, I don't know why you're putting down the US and blaming the Republican party. |
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
... On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 18:20:26 -0800 (PST), Bob wrote: Then you have some liberal like WayneB, who was probably born with a silver spoon in his mouth, casting aspersions upon the character of his moral and ethical betters. People who side with the bloated federal government are worse than despicable. Personally I was born a poor white boy. My moma at age 18 went to work as a welder in WW2 building Liberty Ships. My mom got knocked up when she was welding in the Bremerton shipyard around teh Korean war.. Thats where I came about. I spent my child hood in orchards cause she had to pick fruit and work in laundries cause nobody would hire a woman welder. I had to work hard for evey thing I got cause she OR the goventment couldnt/wouldnt give me ****. Sooo I learned an an education was my way up and out and as my education taught me how to be a: 1) Independent life long learner 2) critical consumer of media I learnde the REpublican party does not want people education past 12th grade. Why????????? I just did a quick google search and the average years of education in the US is 12. In fact, we lead the world in that number. So, I don't know why you're putting down the US and blaming the Republican party. Bob's probably one of those leftist, commie pinko, entitlement addicts. Typical of the type. Live off the fat of the land and gripe about those who produce it. |
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On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 15:38:53 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 18:20:26 -0800 (PST), Bob wrote: Then you have some liberal like WayneB, who was probably born with a silver spoon in his mouth, casting aspersions upon the character of his moral and ethical betters. People who side with the bloated federal government are worse than despicable. Personally I was born a poor white boy. My moma at age 18 went to work as a welder in WW2 building Liberty Ships. My mom got knocked up when she was welding in the Bremerton shipyard around teh Korean war.. Thats where I came about. I spent my child hood in orchards cause she had to pick fruit and work in laundries cause nobody would hire a woman welder. I had to work hard for evey thing I got cause she OR the goventment couldnt/wouldnt give me ****. Sooo I learned an an education was my way up and out and as my education taught me how to be a: 1) Independent life long learner 2) critical consumer of media I learnde the REpublican party does not want people education past 12th grade. Why????????? I just did a quick google search and the average years of education in the US is 12. In fact, we lead the world in that number. So, I don't know why you're putting down the US and blaming the Republican party. Bob's probably one of those leftist, commie pinko, entitlement addicts. Typical of the type. Live off the fat of the land and gripe about those who produce it. We as a country certainly can be better but I can't think of a place I'd rather live. I don't get some of the extreme criticism that happens from those on the left. Seems to me they have a pretty good deal. So, on to more pleasant (and ON-TOPIC JUSTIN... sheesh) subjects... You're in the Keys, so do you typically sail on the west or east side of Florida? Also, I think there's a national park near the Keys... not the Everglades... a place that you have to get to by boat? It's supposed to have an old fort. Also, did you get my email? I think I asked you that somewhere previously. |
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
... snip We as a country certainly can be better but I can't think of a place I'd rather live. I don't get some of the extreme criticism that happens from those on the left. Seems to me they have a pretty good deal. Exactly! It's like all the people complaining about how poor they are. But, look at them! They have so much to eat that they are obese, they have a car or two, air conditioning, dishwasher, color TVs with cable, computers with Internet, hot and cold running water, etc. etc. They need to shut their yaps and enjoy all the luxuries they can't seem to even notice because they are complaining all the time. So, on to more pleasant (and ON-TOPIC JUSTIN... sheesh) subjects... You're in the Keys, so do you typically sail on the west or east side of Florida? Also, I think there's a national park near the Keys... not the Everglades... a place that you have to get to by boat? It's supposed to have an old fort. It's more convenient for me to sail on the Florida Bay side of the Keys as getting to the oceanside involves going out a creek that is about two miles long and going under a bridge that opens on a schedule. Or, sailing to the Channel Five bridge which is high enough to get under. They have made all the water around the Keys into a National Marine sanctuary. The national park is either the Everglades National Park (up and around the mainland) or the Fort Jefferson National Monument. Fort Jefferson is in the Marqueses about fifty or sixty miles west of Key West. No roads and bridges to it though the water is mostly not very deep. I think one might be able to take a seaplane ride out to it but it's mainly accessible by boat only. Also, did you get my email? I think I asked you that somewhere previously. Affirmative! Thanks. |
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:20:23 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message .. . snip We as a country certainly can be better but I can't think of a place I'd rather live. I don't get some of the extreme criticism that happens from those on the left. Seems to me they have a pretty good deal. Exactly! It's like all the people complaining about how poor they are. But, look at them! They have so much to eat that they are obese, they have a car or two, air conditioning, dishwasher, color TVs with cable, computers with Internet, hot and cold running water, etc. etc. They need to shut their yaps and enjoy all the luxuries they can't seem to even notice because they are complaining all the time. Also, I know there are poor people, but there is also lots of opportunity. I don't mind helping people in the short term, but when it becomes an institution, then I have to draw the line. I guess (to make this sailing related Justin) it would be like offering someone help who got stuck on a sand bar. Well, ok, but don't expect me to help you for the next five years. At some point you need to figure out how to get off the sand bar yourself (or stay off). So, on to more pleasant (and ON-TOPIC JUSTIN... sheesh) subjects... You're in the Keys, so do you typically sail on the west or east side of Florida? Also, I think there's a national park near the Keys... not the Everglades... a place that you have to get to by boat? It's supposed to have an old fort. It's more convenient for me to sail on the Florida Bay side of the Keys as getting to the oceanside involves going out a creek that is about two miles long and going under a bridge that opens on a schedule. Or, sailing to the Channel Five bridge which is high enough to get under. They have made all the water around the Keys into a National Marine sanctuary. The national park is either the Everglades National Park (up and around the mainland) or the Fort Jefferson National Monument. Fort Jefferson is in the Marqueses about fifty or sixty miles west of Key West. No roads and bridges to it though the water is mostly not very deep. I think one might be able to take a seaplane ride out to it but it's mainly accessible by boat only. I have no idea where the Florida Bay is... is that on the west side? I'm guessing, but it seems like there's ocean all around. Oh... Fort Jefferson... I looked it up and it looks like it's the same as the Dry Tortugas, which is what I was thinking of... http://www.nps.gov/drto/index.htm That looks beautiful! Can your boat go there? Also, did you get my email? I think I asked you that somewhere previously. Affirmative! Thanks. |
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