On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 16:30:31 -0400, wrote:

We are talking about a non-stop circumnavigation, Wayne. I don't think
there is a trawler made that could make it that far.

Unfortunately you are right about that. Lot's of trawlers have
circumnavigated but not non-stop. Maybe if we towed a 25,000 gallon
barge behind us... :-)

We keep runing into people who have done some very impressive offshore
passages in sailing catamarans. Maybe that's the answer. It would
certainly be good for two couples.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 16:30:31 -0400, wrote:

We are talking about a non-stop circumnavigation, Wayne. I don't think
there is a trawler made that could make it that far.

Unfortunately you are right about that. Lot's of trawlers have
circumnavigated but not non-stop. Maybe if we towed a 25,000 gallon
barge behind us... :-)

We keep runing into people who have done some very impressive offshore
passages in sailing catamarans. Maybe that's the answer. It would
certainly be good for two couples.




Two upside-down couples!


Wilbur Hubbard

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 19:44:38 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

We keep runing into people who have done some very impressive offshore
passages in sailing catamarans. Maybe that's the answer. It would
certainly be good for two couples.




Two upside-down couples!

Who ever said that crossing oceans in a small boat was totally safe ?

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:25:32 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:38:59 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 16:30:31 -0400, wrote:

We are talking about a non-stop circumnavigation, Wayne. I don't think
there is a trawler made that could make it that far.

Unfortunately you are right about that. Lot's of trawlers have
circumnavigated but not non-stop. Maybe if we towed a 25,000 gallon
barge behind us... :-)

We keep runing into people who have done some very impressive offshore
passages in sailing catamarans. Maybe that's the answer. It would
certainly be good for two couples.

Sooner or later someone is going to figure out how to put a hydrogen
fuel cell on a trawler and feed it seawater.

And that would be a very cool solution to the energy crisis. Another
way to accomplish the same thing is with small scale nuclear reactors
but if the navy has them, they're not talking about it. I had dinner
a couple of years ago with the navy's chief nuclear physicist and he
just smiled when I asked him about the possibility.

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:11:11 -0400, wrote:

Boats powered by hydrogen fuel cells may not be far off at all. The
fact that they are floating in a vast supply of seawater is quite an
advantage.takes

What advantage? With no losses, it would take 15 kw hours to produce a
pound of hydrogen. Not including the energy needed to liquify or
compress the stuff. LH2 has a density of about 1/20 water or 1/14
gasoline or alcohol. A boat is the last place for extremely bulky
systems. Best thing to do if you have some hydrogen that isn't working
is use it to turn coal into gasoline or other useful hydrocarbons.

Casady

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:14:12 -0400, wrote:

And nuclear powered electric generation plants are also steam plants.
What is you point... assuming you have one?

Unless they are not. Some are powered by the heat from radioactive
decay using thermocouples. Space probes are an application. I am not
sure how plutonium powered cardiac pacemakers work, but is isn't
steam.

Casady

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On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:36:04 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:25:32 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:38:59 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 16:30:31 -0400, wrote:

We are talking about a non-stop circumnavigation, Wayne. I don't think
there is a trawler made that could make it that far.

Unfortunately you are right about that. Lot's of trawlers have
circumnavigated but not non-stop. Maybe if we towed a 25,000 gallon
barge behind us... :-)

We keep runing into people who have done some very impressive offshore
passages in sailing catamarans. Maybe that's the answer. It would
certainly be good for two couples.

Sooner or later someone is going to figure out how to put a hydrogen
fuel cell on a trawler and feed it seawater.

And that would be a very cool solution to the energy crisis. Another
way to accomplish the same thing is with small scale nuclear reactors
but if the navy has them, they're not talking about it. I had dinner
a couple of years ago with the navy's chief nuclear physicist and he
just smiled when I asked him about the possibility.

???

There have been nuclear powered subs for quite a long time, Wayne.
It's not really a secret. :-)





http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/...ar-12.17b.html


Wilbur Hubbard

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On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:13:23 -0400, "mmc" wrote:




The idea that if a person gets in trouble, no
probs, I've got a lifeboat and epirb and someone will come bail my
stupid
ass out of this crack doesn't always pan out.

Agreed.

The kids parents put her in this predicament with poor planning and
unsuitable equipment.

That's what I've been telling you all along!

Glad we agree on something!
I like old, heavy and relatively slow boats. My favorite was a 1963 Chris
Craft Caribbean, 35' and 16k lbs. Rock solid and bulletproof.


Well, that certainly qualifies as old, heavy, and slow!

I'm not so sure I'd pick that combination for a circumnavigation. That
boat was purpose built to be used in charter in the Carribean, where
people tend to sail a little from point to point and then anchor in
mostly benign conditions. I'd pick a CSY 44 out of that type of boats.


I wouldn't want to do a non-stop. Wouldn't be doing it for any record or
bragging rites, but rather to see the sites and enjoy the trip and people
encountered along the way like you or someone else wrote earlier.
Just can't imagine sailing past all those beautiful South Pacific islands
and not wanting to visit.

I wouldn't want to do a non-stop. Wouldn't be doing it for any record or
bragging rites, but rather to see the sites and enjoy the trip and people
encountered along the way like you or someone else wrote earlier.
Just can't imagine sailing past all those beautiful South Pacific islands
and not wanting to visit.



For a sobering look and a good read about those beautiful South
Pacific islands, read "The Sex Lives of Cannibals" by J Marten Troost.
It's a bit of a wake up.
G

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 07:52:12 -0400, wrote:

Sooner or later someone is going to figure out how to put a hydrogen
fuel cell on a trawler and feed it seawater.

And that would be a very cool solution to the energy crisis. Another
way to accomplish the same thing is with small scale nuclear reactors
but if the navy has them, they're not talking about it. I had dinner
a couple of years ago with the navy's chief nuclear physicist and he
just smiled when I asked him about the possibility.

???

There have been nuclear powered subs for quite a long time, Wayne.
It's not really a secret. :-)

Yes but those reactors are the size of a trawler, not sized for a
trawler. My idea of small scale is something that fits in a large
closet or similar.