Hi ,

I am looking for any ideas on adding hand starting to my new Yanmar 3gm30f
.. The motor comes with fresh water cooling and the belt for the engine
coolant pump runs right in front of the hand starting shaft ....the factory
has even put a cover over the shaft......have tried Yanmar dealer ....no
help ....

Bob

I have the manual start option on my 3GM30F. Tried it just for laughs.
No bigger hernia inducing, back breaking, knuckle busting device exits
on this planet. In an ideal world, with the engine completely un
covered , with a place to plant your feet, maybe you can get enough
rotational speed; but not on any boat I know of.

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 23:12:54 -0700, "Robert williams"
wrote:

Hi ,

I am looking for any ideas on adding hand starting to my new Yanmar 3gm30f
. The motor comes with fresh water cooling and the belt for the engine
coolant pump runs right in front of the hand starting shaft ....the factory
has even put a cover over the shaft......have tried Yanmar dealer ....no
help ....

Bob

maybe you can get enough
rotational speed; but not on any boat I know of.

I'm just curious, but did you try this with the decompression levers off ?

maybe you can get enough
rotational speed; but not on any boat I know of.

I'm just curious, but did you try to crank your engine with the decompression
levers off?

Decompression levers were all engaged. tried dropping them
sequentially, and then all at once. tried with the engine cold and
hot. Engine in fine tune, normally starts within 5 secs. of ign on. at
1/8th throttle. 2 other marina mates tried with same lack of results.
If you are interested in a non electric start, try
http://www.springstarter.com/frameset.htm
On 21 Jul 2004 14:32:59 GMT, (Hmseconomy) wrote:

maybe you can get enough
rotational speed; but not on any boat I know of.

I'm just curious, but did you try to crank your engine with the decompression
levers off?

The 3GM30F has a special setting for starting. The
throttle should always be placed in the full idle
position to enable the starting configuration. If
you ar placing it at 1/8 throttle, you are making
it harder to start the engine. 5 seconds is pretty
long to start. Mine generally kicked over within
1 second of turning the key.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Marc" wrote in message
...
Decompression levers were all engaged. tried dropping them
sequentially, and then all at once. tried with the engine cold and
hot. Engine in fine tune, normally starts within 5 secs. of ign on. at
1/8th throttle. 2 other marina mates tried with same lack of results.
If you are interested in a non electric start, try
http://www.springstarter.com/frameset.htm
On 21 Jul 2004 14:32:59 GMT, (Hmseconomy) wrote:

maybe you can get enough
rotational speed; but not on any boat I know of.

I'm just curious, but did you try to crank your engine with the
decompression
levers off?

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:57:00 GMT, Marc wrote:

Decompression levers were all engaged. tried dropping them
sequentially, and then all at once. tried with the engine cold and
hot. Engine in fine tune, normally starts within 5 secs. of ign on. at
1/8th throttle. 2 other marina mates tried with same lack of results.
If you are interested in a non electric start, try
http://www.springstarter.com/frameset.htm

Amazing...what a great alternative. I can't think of why a long-term
diesel-owning cruiser WOULDN'T have this...it could save your trip...

R.

I have pondered installing one of these. They have been
aboud for may years. I doubt if the spring is powerful
enough to spin my 85HP Perkins though.

Doug
s/v Callista

"rhys" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:57:00 GMT, Marc wrote:

Decompression levers were all engaged. tried dropping them
sequentially, and then all at once. tried with the engine cold and
hot. Engine in fine tune, normally starts within 5 secs. of ign on. at
1/8th throttle. 2 other marina mates tried with same lack of results.
If you are interested in a non electric start, try
http://www.springstarter.com/frameset.htm

Amazing...what a great alternative. I can't think of why a long-term
diesel-owning cruiser WOULDN'T have this...it could save your trip...

R.

In article ,
Marc wrote:

Decompression levers were all engaged. tried dropping them
sequentially, and then all at once. tried with the engine cold and
hot. Engine in fine tune, normally starts within 5 secs. of ign on. at
1/8th throttle. 2 other marina mates tried with same lack of results.
If you are interested in a non electric start, try
http://www.springstarter.com/frameset.htm
On 21 Jul 2004 14:32:59 GMT, (Hmseconomy) wrote:

Saw an AirStart on a small tugboat on the Upper Yukon river years ago.
The boat had 2 mains and two gensets, all with an AirStart. They had
a hand driven AirPump to get the pressure up on the smallest genset.
Took about 10 minutes to get enough pressure to spin the first one,
then it ran the aircompressor to build up pressure for the rest.
No Batteries anywhere onboard. Winter layup, was tie her up in a slough
and catch the next plane out. They used a propane torch to supply
hot air to the first engine to make starting much easier. Really nice
setup.

Bruce in alaska diesels are your friend
--
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"Robert williams" wrote in message
...
Hi ,

I am looking for any ideas on adding hand starting to my new Yanmar
3gm30f
. The motor comes with fresh water cooling and the belt for the engine
coolant pump runs right in front of the hand starting shaft ....the
factory
has even put a cover over the shaft......have tried Yanmar dealer ....no
help ....

Bob

It's a pipe dream - I once saw somebody hand start an old Yanmar 1 cylinder
YSM (the ones with the bigger flywheel) and that was an impressive
performance. I've never heard of anybody hand starting a 3 cylinder.

Oh there was a French sailor in the Vendee Globe race - I think he used a
pulley on the mainsail, sheeted the sail in really tight on a reach, and let
it out FAST. The resulting pull on the rope started the engine but most of
us don't have 1600 sq. ft mainsails....


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