On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:25:42 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:


Or, are you saying that everything looks fine from bottom to top, but it's
short by 12"? If so, then the main is the wrong size or the boom has changed
heights. Is the gooseneck fixed?

Or the sailmaker allowed room for the sail to stretch with use. I
would expect that the old sail would have stretched somewhat, so the
new one would be a little smaller.

Is there a black band on mast near the head of the mast? If you race,
the sail must not go beyond that band, or you will be violating your
rating. (If you don't race, this is irrelevant.)


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GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca

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On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:25:42 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:


Or, are you saying that everything looks fine from bottom to top, but it's
short by 12"? If so, then the main is the wrong size or the boom has
changed
heights. Is the gooseneck fixed?

Or the sailmaker allowed room for the sail to stretch with use. I
would expect that the old sail would have stretched somewhat, so the
new one would be a little smaller.

Is there a black band on mast near the head of the mast? If you race,
the sail must not go beyond that band, or you will be violating your
rating. (If you don't race, this is irrelevant.)


--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca


Good point Peter... not that familiar with sail stretch for new sails, but
I'm wondering if 12" is more than what would be built in..

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On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:25:42 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:


Or, are you saying that everything looks fine from bottom to top, but
it's
short by 12"? If so, then the main is the wrong size or the boom has
changed
heights. Is the gooseneck fixed?

Or the sailmaker allowed room for the sail to stretch with use. I
would expect that the old sail would have stretched somewhat, so the
new one would be a little smaller.

Is there a black band on mast near the head of the mast? If you race,
the sail must not go beyond that band, or you will be violating your
rating. (If you don't race, this is irrelevant.)


--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca


Good point Peter... not that familiar with sail stretch for new sails, but
I'm wondering if 12" is more than what would be built in..

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www.sailnow.com

A foot for stretch certainly isn't all that unusual, but it doesn't sound
like it's the problem. I believe you suggested earlier that it could be a
slide problem, and I would agree. When I had new sails made for Essie, the
new external slides had sharp edges and would easily go cattywompus, digging
into the sides of the track and bringing it all to a halt. We went through
and changed the bend on all of them, slightly outwards, and eased the edges
of the slides so they weren't so sharp, and up she went like grass through a
goose.

Someone else suggested a screw partially backed out. I've also had that
problem, and it's equally valid.

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On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:25:42 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:


Or, are you saying that everything looks fine from bottom to top, but
it's
short by 12"? If so, then the main is the wrong size or the boom has
changed
heights. Is the gooseneck fixed?

Or the sailmaker allowed room for the sail to stretch with use. I
would expect that the old sail would have stretched somewhat, so the
new one would be a little smaller.

Is there a black band on mast near the head of the mast? If you race,
the sail must not go beyond that band, or you will be violating your
rating. (If you don't race, this is irrelevant.)


--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca


Good point Peter... not that familiar with sail stretch for new sails,
but I'm wondering if 12" is more than what would be built in..

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

A foot for stretch certainly isn't all that unusual, but it doesn't sound
like it's the problem. I believe you suggested earlier that it could be a
slide problem, and I would agree. When I had new sails made for Essie, the
new external slides had sharp edges and would easily go cattywompus,
digging into the sides of the track and bringing it all to a halt. We went
through and changed the bend on all of them, slightly outwards, and eased
the edges of the slides so they weren't so sharp, and up she went like
grass through a goose.

Someone else suggested a screw partially backed out. I've also had that
problem, and it's equally valid.


I've had sliders get stuck even though everything looked fine... just backed
off a bit , then tried again, and it went fine.

Try sailcote also...

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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I've had sliders get stuck even though everything looked fine... just
backed off a bit , then tried again, and it went fine.

Try sailcote also...

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I've done that too, but I figure if a slide sticks going up, it could also
stick coming down -- and that could be very bad news indeed.

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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I've had sliders get stuck even though everything looked fine... just
backed off a bit , then tried again, and it went fine.

Try sailcote also...

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

I've done that too, but I figure if a slide sticks going up, it could also
stick coming down -- and that could be very bad news indeed.


I've never had that problem...a quick tug on the sail, and down it comes.

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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I've had sliders get stuck even though everything looked fine... just
backed off a bit , then tried again, and it went fine.

Try sailcote also...

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

I've done that too, but I figure if a slide sticks going up, it could
also stick coming down -- and that could be very bad news indeed.


I've never had that problem...a quick tug on the sail, and down it comes.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Agree about the sailcote, btw -- I swear by it, and spray it on pretty much
anything that's supposed to move. Getting back to the stuck sails, though, I
sailed on an Irwin 42 once that had been having "sticking slide" problems.
Slides would stick going up, we'd ease the halyard a bit, tug on the luff,
haul away again, ease the halyard again, tug the luff again, eventually it'd
hoist all the way. Skipper wasn't worried about it, said it happened all the
time. Coming back into port we got ready to drop the main, and it wouldn't
budge. Couldn't go higher, wouldn't drop no matter what we did. Came into
the slip with the main up and several people on the finger ready to catch
lines and pull her in.

In the end it turned out that the top headboard slug was really, really
bunged up and wasn't going anywhere. Had to disconnect it to get the sail to
drop. Don't know what the final fix was, but it could have been much worse
if we had been trying to reef in rising wind. I'm assuming that there was
some galling of the internal track near the top of the hoist that caused the
slug to get mangled.

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:27:05 -0800, "Capt. JG"
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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I've had sliders get stuck even though everything looked fine... just
backed off a bit , then tried again, and it went fine.

Try sailcote also...

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

I've done that too, but I figure if a slide sticks going up, it could also
stick coming down -- and that could be very bad news indeed.


I've never had that problem...a quick tug on the sail, and down it comes.

I had a case of it not coming down due to a damaged track insert. The
slug slid past the cracked section going up and then jammed against it
on the way down. It wasn't a fun situation.

That's when I installed the Tides system.

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On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:25:42 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:


Or, are you saying that everything looks fine from bottom to top, but it's
short by 12"? If so, then the main is the wrong size or the boom has
changed
heights. Is the gooseneck fixed?

Or the sailmaker allowed room for the sail to stretch with use. I
would expect that the old sail would have stretched somewhat, so the
new one would be a little smaller.

Is there a black band on mast near the head of the mast? If you race,
the sail must not go beyond that band, or you will be violating your
rating. (If you don't race, this is irrelevant.)


It would be nice if people actually took time to read a post with
understanding from time to time before they wasted everybody's time with
some stupid answer that has no bearing on the problem.

What don't you understand about this: "Trouble is, it hangs about 12" from
the top of
the mast. My old one doesn't." He obviously doesn't mean that the sail
hangs as in hanging from the halyard, he means it hangs as in stops going
up, gets stuck, binds, won't go no more, etc.

Considering this fact how does your post do anything but cause more
confusion? Or do you just like to talk for the sake of talking? Believe me,
you aren't the only one as evidenced by most of the other lame replies that
indicate a listening problem.

Wilbur Hubbard