wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:27:05 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
easolutions...
I've had sliders get stuck even though everything looked fine... just
backed off a bit , then tried again, and it went fine.

Try sailcote also...

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

I've done that too, but I figure if a slide sticks going up, it could
also
stick coming down -- and that could be very bad news indeed.


I've never had that problem...a quick tug on the sail, and down it comes.

I had a case of it not coming down due to a damaged track insert. The
slug slid past the cracked section going up and then jammed against it
on the way down. It wasn't a fun situation.

That's when I installed the Tides system.



Yes, I checked that out last time you mentioned it... still considering it.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Nigel Molesworth" wrote in message
...
In article lutions,
"Capt. JG" wrote:

"Nigel Molesworth" wrote in message
...
I carefully measured every side and the new mainsail looks beautiful. I
put new sliders on too. Trouble is, it hangs about 12" from the top of
the mast. My old one doesn't.

Even tho I have a bosuns chair I haven't gone up to investigate.

Any thoughts before I'm forced to go up there?

--
Molesworth


Are you're saying that the main doesn't go all the way to the top...
that's
there some left over at the boom when you raise the sail "all the way"
and
it's getting hung up on the way to the top? If so, then clearly something
is
interferring with the sliders.

Yes. And the old sail goes right to the top. The new one is slack at the
foot - so much so that it's useless!

There has to be something that affects the new one that doesn't occur
with the old one.

I haul myself up with the mailsail haul - so I can't have both!

I'll drop the jib and use that haul to have a look with the sail up as
far as it will go and see what the prob is - when it gets a bit warmer!

--
Molesworth


You could take a look with some binoculars... you might see something if you
raise the new sail while you look. It's amazing what one can see...


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:18:45 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:27:05 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
easolutions...
I've had sliders get stuck even though everything looked fine... just
backed off a bit , then tried again, and it went fine.

Try sailcote also...

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

I've done that too, but I figure if a slide sticks going up, it could
also
stick coming down -- and that could be very bad news indeed.


I've never had that problem...a quick tug on the sail, and down it comes.

I had a case of it not coming down due to a damaged track insert. The
slug slid past the cracked section going up and then jammed against it
on the way down. It wasn't a fun situation.

That's when I installed the Tides system.



Yes, I checked that out last time you mentioned it... still considering it.

On the C&C list, whenever someone asks about it, they get about 30
responses gushing about "The best upgrade I've ever done".

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:20:21 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Nigel Molesworth" wrote in message
...
In article lutions,
"Capt. JG" wrote:

"Nigel Molesworth" wrote in message
...
I carefully measured every side and the new mainsail looks beautiful. I
put new sliders on too. Trouble is, it hangs about 12" from the top of
the mast. My old one doesn't.

Even tho I have a bosuns chair I haven't gone up to investigate.

Any thoughts before I'm forced to go up there?

--
Molesworth


Are you're saying that the main doesn't go all the way to the top...
that's
there some left over at the boom when you raise the sail "all the way"
and
it's getting hung up on the way to the top? If so, then clearly something
is
interferring with the sliders.

Yes. And the old sail goes right to the top. The new one is slack at the
foot - so much so that it's useless!

There has to be something that affects the new one that doesn't occur
with the old one.

I haul myself up with the mailsail haul - so I can't have both!

I'll drop the jib and use that haul to have a look with the sail up as
far as it will go and see what the prob is - when it gets a bit warmer!

--
Molesworth


You could take a look with some binoculars... you might see something if you
raise the new sail while you look. It's amazing what one can see...

It's possible that the actually impediment is not at the head, but
something further down. I would start by laying the old and new sail
luffs side by side and doing a careful inspection/comparison.
Obviously there is SOMETHING different. I don't think going up is
required... yet.

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:20:21 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Nigel Molesworth" wrote in message
...
In article lutions,
"Capt. JG" wrote:

"Nigel Molesworth" wrote in message
...
I carefully measured every side and the new mainsail looks beautiful.
I
put new sliders on too. Trouble is, it hangs about 12" from the top
of
the mast. My old one doesn't.

Even tho I have a bosuns chair I haven't gone up to investigate.

Any thoughts before I'm forced to go up there?

--
Molesworth


Are you're saying that the main doesn't go all the way to the top...
that's
there some left over at the boom when you raise the sail "all the way"
and
it's getting hung up on the way to the top? If so, then clearly
something
is
interferring with the sliders.

Yes. And the old sail goes right to the top. The new one is slack at the
foot - so much so that it's useless!

There has to be something that affects the new one that doesn't occur
with the old one.

I haul myself up with the mailsail haul - so I can't have both!

I'll drop the jib and use that haul to have a look with the sail up as
far as it will go and see what the prob is - when it gets a bit warmer!

--
Molesworth


You could take a look with some binoculars... you might see something if
you
raise the new sail while you look. It's amazing what one can see...

It's possible that the actually impediment is not at the head, but
something further down. I would start by laying the old and new sail
luffs side by side and doing a careful inspection/comparison.
Obviously there is SOMETHING different. I don't think going up is
required... yet.



I agree. I would definitely do a side-by-side and examine the track as best
as possible.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:42:39 -0600, Nigel Molesworth
wrote:

In article lutions,
"Capt. JG" wrote:

"Nigel Molesworth" wrote in message
...
I carefully measured every side and the new mainsail looks beautiful. I
put new sliders on too. Trouble is, it hangs about 12" from the top of
the mast. My old one doesn't.

Even tho I have a bosuns chair I haven't gone up to investigate.

Any thoughts before I'm forced to go up there?

--
Molesworth


Are you're saying that the main doesn't go all the way to the top... that's
there some left over at the boom when you raise the sail "all the way" and
it's getting hung up on the way to the top? If so, then clearly something is
interferring with the sliders.

Yes. And the old sail goes right to the top. The new one is slack at the
foot - so much so that it's useless!

There has to be something that affects the new one that doesn't occur
with the old one.

I haul myself up with the mailsail haul - so I can't have both!

I'll drop the jib and use that haul to have a look with the sail up as
far as it will go and see what the prob is - when it gets a bit warmer!

Another thought (although you've probably checked) - any chance that
the boom or reefing lines are holding the sail down? Is the leech of
the sail tight when it is raised as far as it will go?


--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca

On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:00:09 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:31:28 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:20:21 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Nigel Molesworth" wrote in message
...
In article lutions,
"Capt. JG" wrote:

"Nigel Molesworth" wrote in message
...
I carefully measured every side and the new mainsail looks beautiful.
I
put new sliders on too. Trouble is, it hangs about 12" from the top
of
the mast. My old one doesn't.

Even tho I have a bosuns chair I haven't gone up to investigate.

Any thoughts before I'm forced to go up there?

--
Molesworth


Are you're saying that the main doesn't go all the way to the top...
that's
there some left over at the boom when you raise the sail "all the way"
and
it's getting hung up on the way to the top? If so, then clearly
something
is
interferring with the sliders.

Yes. And the old sail goes right to the top. The new one is slack at the
foot - so much so that it's useless!

There has to be something that affects the new one that doesn't occur
with the old one.

I haul myself up with the mailsail haul - so I can't have both!

I'll drop the jib and use that haul to have a look with the sail up as
far as it will go and see what the prob is - when it gets a bit warmer!

--
Molesworth


You could take a look with some binoculars... you might see something if
you
raise the new sail while you look. It's amazing what one can see...

It's possible that the actually impediment is not at the head, but
something further down. I would start by laying the old and new sail
luffs side by side and doing a careful inspection/comparison.
Obviously there is SOMETHING different. I don't think going up is
required... yet.



I agree. I would definitely do a side-by-side and examine the track as best
as possible.

The track apparently works just fine with the old sail. I'd
concentrate on what's different about the new sail and fix that.

I'll go way out on a limb here and suggest that since the old sail
encounters no problem with the track, the first step should be a close
examination of the old and new sail, looking for differences. Do a
side-by-side comparison.

--Vic

On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:51:32 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:00:09 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:31:28 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:20:21 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Nigel Molesworth" wrote in message
...
In article lutions,
"Capt. JG" wrote:

"Nigel Molesworth" wrote in message
...
I carefully measured every side and the new mainsail looks beautiful.
I
put new sliders on too. Trouble is, it hangs about 12" from the top
of
the mast. My old one doesn't.

Even tho I have a bosuns chair I haven't gone up to investigate.

Any thoughts before I'm forced to go up there?

--
Molesworth


Are you're saying that the main doesn't go all the way to the top...
that's
there some left over at the boom when you raise the sail "all the way"
and
it's getting hung up on the way to the top? If so, then clearly
something
is
interferring with the sliders.

Yes. And the old sail goes right to the top. The new one is slack at the
foot - so much so that it's useless!

There has to be something that affects the new one that doesn't occur
with the old one.

I haul myself up with the mailsail haul - so I can't have both!

I'll drop the jib and use that haul to have a look with the sail up as
far as it will go and see what the prob is - when it gets a bit warmer!

--
Molesworth


You could take a look with some binoculars... you might see something if
you
raise the new sail while you look. It's amazing what one can see...

It's possible that the actually impediment is not at the head, but
something further down. I would start by laying the old and new sail
luffs side by side and doing a careful inspection/comparison.
Obviously there is SOMETHING different. I don't think going up is
required... yet.



I agree. I would definitely do a side-by-side and examine the track as best
as possible.

The track apparently works just fine with the old sail. I'd
concentrate on what's different about the new sail and fix that.

I'll go way out on a limb here and suggest that since the old sail
encounters no problem with the track, the first step should be a close
examination of the old and new sail, looking for differences. Do a
side-by-side comparison.

--Vic

Yes. I've suggested that a few times now. When you hear hoofbeats,
look for horses before you start looking for zebras.

wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:51:32 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:00:09 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:31:28 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:20:21 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Nigel Molesworth" wrote in message
...
In article lutions,
"Capt. JG" wrote:

"Nigel Molesworth" wrote in message
...
I carefully measured every side and the new mainsail looks beautiful.
I
put new sliders on too. Trouble is, it hangs about 12" from the top
of
the mast. My old one doesn't.

Even tho I have a bosuns chair I haven't gone up to investigate.

Any thoughts before I'm forced to go up there?

--
Molesworth

Are you're saying that the main doesn't go all the way to the top...
that's
there some left over at the boom when you raise the sail "all the way"
and
it's getting hung up on the way to the top? If so, then clearly
something
is
interferring with the sliders.
Yes. And the old sail goes right to the top. The new one is slack at the
foot - so much so that it's useless!

There has to be something that affects the new one that doesn't occur
with the old one.

I haul myself up with the mailsail haul - so I can't have both!

I'll drop the jib and use that haul to have a look with the sail up as
far as it will go and see what the prob is - when it gets a bit warmer!

--
Molesworth

You could take a look with some binoculars... you might see something if
you
raise the new sail while you look. It's amazing what one can see...
It's possible that the actually impediment is not at the head, but
something further down. I would start by laying the old and new sail
luffs side by side and doing a careful inspection/comparison.
Obviously there is SOMETHING different. I don't think going up is
required... yet.


I agree. I would definitely do a side-by-side and examine the track as best
as possible.
The track apparently works just fine with the old sail. I'd
concentrate on what's different about the new sail and fix that.
I'll go way out on a limb here and suggest that since the old sail
encounters no problem with the track, the first step should be a close
examination of the old and new sail, looking for differences. Do a
side-by-side comparison.

--Vic

Yes. I've suggested that a few times now. When you hear hoofbeats,
look for horses before you start looking for zebras.



I heard that in Africa they had that the other way around...

wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:57:21 -0600, cavelamb
wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:51:32 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:00:09 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:31:28 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:20:21 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Nigel Molesworth" wrote in message
...
In article lutions,
"Capt. JG" wrote:

"Nigel Molesworth" wrote in message
...
I carefully measured every side and the new mainsail looks beautiful.
I
put new sliders on too. Trouble is, it hangs about 12" from the top
of
the mast. My old one doesn't.

Even tho I have a bosuns chair I haven't gone up to investigate.

Any thoughts before I'm forced to go up there?

--
Molesworth
Are you're saying that the main doesn't go all the way to the top...
that's
there some left over at the boom when you raise the sail "all the way"
and
it's getting hung up on the way to the top? If so, then clearly
something
is
interferring with the sliders.
Yes. And the old sail goes right to the top. The new one is slack at the
foot - so much so that it's useless!

There has to be something that affects the new one that doesn't occur
with the old one.

I haul myself up with the mailsail haul - so I can't have both!

I'll drop the jib and use that haul to have a look with the sail up as
far as it will go and see what the prob is - when it gets a bit warmer!

--
Molesworth
You could take a look with some binoculars... you might see something if
you
raise the new sail while you look. It's amazing what one can see...
It's possible that the actually impediment is not at the head, but
something further down. I would start by laying the old and new sail
luffs side by side and doing a careful inspection/comparison.
Obviously there is SOMETHING different. I don't think going up is
required... yet.

I agree. I would definitely do a side-by-side and examine the track as best
as possible.
The track apparently works just fine with the old sail. I'd
concentrate on what's different about the new sail and fix that.
I'll go way out on a limb here and suggest that since the old sail
encounters no problem with the track, the first step should be a close
examination of the old and new sail, looking for differences. Do a
side-by-side comparison.

--Vic
Yes. I've suggested that a few times now. When you hear hoofbeats,
look for horses before you start looking for zebras.


I heard that in Africa they had that the other way around...


Sadly, there are less than 2500 zebras in Africa. Horses outnumber
them - even there.



What ever happened to Mr. Ed???

Or was that Francis the Talking Mule that was really a painted zebra???