"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
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"Shad O'Shay" wrote in message
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This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't
talking about Perez) Wow!

http://www.sailsea.org/

Be careful where you go to learn how to sail.


Shad O'Shay



An interesting view on the subject. Personally, it strikes me that
Jonathan is simply defending himself against corporate in-fighting and
unjust termination. FWIW, I find nothing objectionable in JG's presenting
his side of the story.

As an aside, I didn't know anything at all about this until certain sock
puppets brought it up. It's not JG stirring the pot, if you ask me.



I suppose you can be forgiven for not paying attention but I alway pay
attention. I recall the following post:

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From: "Capt. JG"
Newsgroups: alt.sailing.asa,rec.boats.cruising
Subject: Wannabe's, has-been's, never were's, faggots, pretenders and
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"Anonymous" wrote in message
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Actually, I want to thank you. I didn't realize that my name was still
associated with them in any "official" capacity. I will rectify the
situation. --
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


Thanks! I hope you parted on good terms with them, some of those
non-profits can be quite squirrely to manage.



You're welcome.

I don't think it's appropriate for me to comment, since I was an officer of
the corporation.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

------------------------------------------

It's not appropriate for him to comment yet he engages in gossip and libel
in a hijacked website????

Can you say, two-faced LIAR! How about HYPOCRITE?

--
Gregory Hall

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in news:4946ccd5$0
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"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
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Either way he's one slimey individual, imo.

Yep, and they're pretty smart to have gotten rid of him.


No brainer!

Wilbur Hubbard

The idiots are the people who don't realize that Shad O'Shay and Wilbur are
the same poster...

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

"Geoff Schultz" wrote in message
...
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in news:4946ccd5$0
:


"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
...
Either way he's one slimey individual, imo.

Yep, and they're pretty smart to have gotten rid of him.


No brainer!

Wilbur Hubbard

The idiots are the people who don't realize that Shad O'Shay and Wilbur
are
the same poster...

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

They are? Boy, was I fooled!

Geoff Schultz wrote:

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in news:4946ccd5$0
:


"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
...

Either way he's one slimey individual, imo.

Yep, and they're pretty smart to have gotten rid of him.


No brainer!

Wilbur Hubbard


The idiots are the people who don't realize that Shad O'Shay and Wilbur are
the same poster...

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

I'm just guessing, of course, but so often a new name pops up in one of
these name calling threads.

I've always figured that it was the great man himself.

Who else would agree with such a nut?

Richard

"Shad O'Shay" wrote in message
...
This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't
talking about Perez) Wow!

http://www.sailsea.org/

Be careful where you go to learn how to sail.


Shad O'Shay



Jonathan did a job no one else wanted (at no pay) for 5 years. He grew the
outfit in size and scope. Many people benefitted from his hard work. He was
the only one qualified to teach the larger and harder classes. The non
profit was nominated for a prestigious award with him at the helm. He's got
an MBA AND USCG captain's license, two combined qualifications that are hard
to find. It was HIS vision and HIS hard, selfless work. Now that things are
up and running smoothly a bunch of ingrate wannabes wanted to take over and
take over they did. It wasn't a simple vote that got him outed, it was a
deliberate conspiracy. Jonathan shouldn't go back, he is only lowering
himself to their standards. He might do much better creating a new,
competing non profit with iron clad bylaws that don't allow others to
commandeer the ship. It won't be the same if he goes back, hurt feelings and
grudges usually can never be put aside. Be the better man and take the high
road, it will serve you well in the long term. He may have made mistakes, he
has admitted them and now he can use what he has learned to do much, much
better. Anger and resentment are based upon things of the past, hope and
vigor are for the future! Carry the torch forward and may it shine brightly
upon all!

Admiral Momsen

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:47:12 -0600, Geoff Schultz
wrote:

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in news:4946ccd5$0
:


"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
...
Either way he's one slimey individual, imo.

Yep, and they're pretty smart to have gotten rid of him.


No brainer!

Wilbur Hubbard

The idiots are the people who don't realize that Shad O'Shay and Wilbur are
the same poster...

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org


Yet another manifestation? No doubt about it... bi-polar syndrome. A
friggin loony to use the vernacular.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:07:17 -0600, Richard
wrote:

Geoff Schultz wrote:

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in news:4946ccd5$0
:


"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
...

Either way he's one slimey individual, imo.

Yep, and they're pretty smart to have gotten rid of him.


No brainer!

Wilbur Hubbard


The idiots are the people who don't realize that Shad O'Shay and Wilbur are
the same poster...

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

I'm just guessing, of course, but so often a new name pops up in one of
these name calling threads.

I've always figured that it was the great man himself.

Who else would agree with such a nut?

Richard

One of his alter-egos? Or perhaps; another nut?

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Bruce In Bangkok wrote:

The idiots are the people who don't realize that Shad O'Shay and Wilbur are
the same poster...

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

I'm just guessing, of course, but so often a new name pops up in one of
these name calling threads.

I've always figured that it was the great man himself.

Who else would agree with such a nut?

Richard


One of his alter-egos? Or perhaps; another nut?



Hi Bruce!

The former, I Suspect.
But who know (or cares).
Can we move on now?

Richard

"Charles Momsen" wrote in message
...

"Shad O'Shay" wrote in message
...
This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't
talking about Perez) Wow!

http://www.sailsea.org/

Be careful where you go to learn how to sail.


Shad O'Shay



Jonathan did a job no one else wanted (at no pay) for 5 years. He grew the
outfit in size and scope. Many people benefitted from his hard work. He
was the only one qualified to teach the larger and harder classes. The non
profit was nominated for a prestigious award with him at the helm. He's
got an MBA AND USCG captain's license, two combined qualifications that
are hard to find. It was HIS vision and HIS hard, selfless work. Now that
things are up and running smoothly a bunch of ingrate wannabes wanted to
take over and take over they did. It wasn't a simple vote that got him
outed, it was a deliberate conspiracy. Jonathan shouldn't go back, he is
only lowering himself to their standards. He might do much better creating
a new, competing non profit with iron clad bylaws that don't allow others
to commandeer the ship. It won't be the same if he goes back, hurt
feelings and grudges usually can never be put aside. Be the better man and
take the high road, it will serve you well in the long term. He may have
made mistakes, he has admitted them and now he can use what he has learned
to do much, much better. Anger and resentment are based upon things of the
past, hope and vigor are for the future! Carry the torch forward and may
it shine brightly upon all!

Admiral Momsen

Good grief, Momsen, have you taken leave of your senses? Have you been
drinking the liberal Kool Aid? Have you been smoking some of that there
wacky tobaccy? Or perhaps you got ahold of some of Gaynze's 10X strength
LSD?

Get a grip on yourself, Admiral! Next thing you know, if you keep spouting
such nonsense, Obama will come schlepping around and appoint you to head the
Joint Chiefs of Staff!

You need to get a clue. There's some behind-the-scenes information I am
privy to which sheds an entirely new light upon this situation. I can't be
specific at this time but it concerns possible abuse of the non-profit
status of the organization by the fired member. Does the term "under the
table" mean anything to you? This whole episode with the web site and the
feuding is all about a cover-up. Of course the organization wants rid of a
possible huge liability but said liability thinks only about its own hurt
pride. I understand Perez has even been talking to an F. Lee Bailey type
(shhhhh! don't tell anybody).

Can you expand your rigid mind to encompass such a scenario? It happens all
the time. Usually greed is at the core of the misdoings. Greed and a total
disregard for the law. This is how liberals think - laws are for somebody
else.

Wilbur Hubbard

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

"Charles Momsen" wrote in message
...

"Shad O'Shay" wrote in message
...
This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't
talking about Perez) Wow!

http://www.sailsea.org/

Be careful where you go to learn how to sail.


Shad O'Shay



Jonathan did a job no one else wanted (at no pay) for 5 years. He grew
the outfit in size and scope. Many people benefitted from his hard work.
He was the only one qualified to teach the larger and harder classes. The
non profit was nominated for a prestigious award with him at the helm.
He's got an MBA AND USCG captain's license, two combined qualifications
that are hard to find. It was HIS vision and HIS hard, selfless work. Now
that things are up and running smoothly a bunch of ingrate wannabes
wanted to take over and take over they did. It wasn't a simple vote that
got him outed, it was a deliberate conspiracy. Jonathan shouldn't go
back, he is only lowering himself to their standards. He might do much
better creating a new, competing non profit with iron clad bylaws that
don't allow others to commandeer the ship. It won't be the same if he
goes back, hurt feelings and grudges usually can never be put aside. Be
the better man and take the high road, it will serve you well in the long
term. He may have made mistakes, he has admitted them and now he can use
what he has learned to do much, much better. Anger and resentment are
based upon things of the past, hope and vigor are for the future! Carry
the torch forward and may it shine brightly upon all!

Admiral Momsen

Good grief, Momsen, have you taken leave of your senses? Have you been
drinking the liberal Kool Aid? Have you been smoking some of that there
wacky tobaccy? Or perhaps you got ahold of some of Gaynze's 10X strength
LSD?

Get a grip on yourself, Admiral! Next thing you know, if you keep spouting
such nonsense, Obama will come schlepping around and appoint you to head
the Joint Chiefs of Staff!

You need to get a clue. There's some behind-the-scenes information I am
privy to which sheds an entirely new light upon this situation. I can't be
specific at this time but it concerns possible abuse of the non-profit
status of the organization by the fired member. Does the term "under the
table" mean anything to you? This whole episode with the web site and the
feuding is all about a cover-up. Of course the organization wants rid of a
possible huge liability but said liability thinks only about its own hurt
pride. I understand Perez has even been talking to an F. Lee Bailey type
(shhhhh! don't tell anybody).

Can you expand your rigid mind to encompass such a scenario? It happens
all the time. Usually greed is at the core of the misdoings. Greed and a
total disregard for the law. This is how liberals think - laws are for
somebody else.

Wilbur Hubbard


Are you saying he might have been outed because of corruption? That the
possibility of operating a non profit for personal benefit was going on?
Personal enurement? How could that happen? How would he get the
"beancounter" to go along? Naahh...

I think Jonathan is telling the truth. It's just like he says it is. It was
a conspiracy and mutiny against him. The loser half wits tossed him
overboard to run the show. He should up the ante to get reinstated back into
his rightful and hard earned position. Those people who voted against should
be publicly flogged, keel hauled and made to walk the plank! Jonathan, don't
give up the ship or the financial records!