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Remote Battery Filling System
Here's a product that I just stumbled across that may be of interest
to those with large battery banks that are difficult to access: http://www.batteryfillingsystems.com....asp?page=home I have no experience with this system but it was recommended by someone on a boating EMAIL list that I subscribe to, and looks like it might solve a problem on my boat. Basically it uses special replacement battery caps that are tied together with plastic tubing and a remote filling device. Each cap has a float valve which closes when the cell is full. They sell different types of caps and floats depending on battery type. It is being marketed to industrial and golf cart users but I can't see any reason why it wouldn't work on a boat. |
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Remote Battery Filling System
On Mar 9, 11:57 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
Here's a product that I just stumbled across that may be of interest to those with large battery banks that are difficult to access: http://www.batteryfillingsystems.com....asp?page=home I have no experience with this system but it was recommended by someone on a boating EMAIL list that I subscribe to, and looks like it might solve a problem on my boat. Basically it uses special replacement battery caps that are tied together with plastic tubing and a remote filling device. Each cap has a float valve which closes when the cell is full. They sell different types of caps and floats depending on battery type. It is being marketed to industrial and golf cart users but I can't see any reason why it wouldn't work on a boat. The only complaint I have is the ridiculous cost for some molded plastic |
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On Mar 9, 9:57�pm, Wayne.B wrote:
Here's a product that I just stumbled across that may be of interest to those with large battery banks that are difficult to access: http://www.batteryfillingsystems.com....asp?page=home I have no experience with this system but it was recommended by someone on a boating EMAIL list that I subscribe to, and looks like it might solve a problem on my boat. Basically it uses special replacement battery caps that are tied together with plastic tubing and a remote filling device. *Each cap has a float valve which closes when the cell is full. *They sell different types of caps and floats depending on battery type. It is being marketed to industrial and golf cart users but I can't see any reason why it wouldn't work on a boat. "Large battery banks that are difficult to access" sounds like a serious problem, at least on a boat. What do you do when it's time to replace 'em? Also, with all of the plumbing, etc, how do you get the lid back onto the battery box? Cut some additional holes? (I use a hydro-cap on my Rolls batteries, does a lot to prevent loss of electrolyte), |
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On 10 Mar 2007 12:23:23 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote: "Large battery banks that are difficult to access" sounds like a serious problem, at least on a boat. What do you do when it's time to replace 'em? Also, with all of the plumbing, etc, how do you get the lid back onto the battery box? Cut some additional holes? (I use a hydro-cap on my Rolls batteries, does a lot to prevent loss of electrolyte), Funny you should ask about replacement since I just had to do that. It was a heavy duty 8D weighing about 130 lbs or so. It's installed back under a shelf in the engine room which makes checking and adding water difficult. To make matters worse I've installed a bank of 4 golf cart batts outside of the 8D in their own custom box with a lot of jumper wires for the series/parallel arrangement. In order to remove the 8D I had to uninstall the golf carts, the jumper wires and the golf cart box. Then I had to slide the 8D out of its hole under the shelf and horse it up out of the engine compartment. Not a fun job, and I ended up giving myself a mild case of tendonitis in my right elbow. My theory (thus far unproven) is that an automatic watering systems would allow me to take better care of the almost inaccessible 8D and get better life out of it. The tubing for the plumbing system looks like it is quite thin and should exit out of the existing cutout in the battery box. We'll see. First I've got to finish some other projects and then find out how much these fancy battery caps cost. The tubing and filling arrangement should be very inexpensive. The Rolls hydrocaps are nice but I don't know if you can get them for a standard 8D. How much height do they add? |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On 10 Mar 2007 12:23:23 -0800, "Chuck Gould" wrote: "Large battery banks that are difficult to access" sounds like a serious problem, at least on a boat. What do you do when it's time to replace 'em? Also, with all of the plumbing, etc, how do you get the lid back onto the battery box? Cut some additional holes? (I use a hydro-cap on my Rolls batteries, does a lot to prevent loss of electrolyte), Funny you should ask about replacement since I just had to do that. It was a heavy duty 8D weighing about 130 lbs or so. It's installed back under a shelf in the engine room which makes checking and adding water difficult. To make matters worse I've installed a bank of 4 golf cart batts outside of the 8D in their own custom box with a lot of jumper wires for the series/parallel arrangement. In order to remove the 8D I had to uninstall the golf carts, the jumper wires and the golf cart box. Then I had to slide the 8D out of its hole under the shelf and horse it up out of the engine compartment. Not a fun job, and I ended up giving myself a mild case of tendonitis in my right elbow. My theory (thus far unproven) is that an automatic watering systems would allow me to take better care of the almost inaccessible 8D and get better life out of it. The tubing for the plumbing system looks like it is quite thin and should exit out of the existing cutout in the battery box. We'll see. First I've got to finish some other projects and then find out how much these fancy battery caps cost. The tubing and filling arrangement should be very inexpensive. The Rolls hydrocaps are nice but I don't know if you can get them for a standard 8D. How much height do they add? The weight of hydrocaps is negligible, AFAIK. But I have to ask, will your remote watering system also measure specific gravity? |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On 10 Mar 2007 12:23:23 -0800, "Chuck Gould" wrote: "Large battery banks that are difficult to access" sounds like a serious problem, at least on a boat. What do you do when it's time to replace 'em? Also, with all of the plumbing, etc, how do you get the lid back onto the battery box? Cut some additional holes? (I use a hydro-cap on my Rolls batteries, does a lot to prevent loss of electrolyte), Funny you should ask about replacement since I just had to do that. It was a heavy duty 8D weighing about 130 lbs or so. It's installed back under a shelf in the engine room which makes checking and adding water difficult. To make matters worse I've installed a bank of 4 golf cart batts outside of the 8D in their own custom box with a lot of jumper wires for the series/parallel arrangement. What kind of a charger are you guys using when on shore power? The ferro-resonant types can really cause a lot of electrolyte loss. The dedicated batteries for the thrusters on my boat (Navigator) used to be tied to the old, FR charger and they were in need of water almost monthly. For other reasons ... I bought a dedicated, dual output, 3 stage "smart" charger for them and I now add a small amount of water once a year, if that. The batteries are always being maintained by the smart charger. I still have 3 8Ds that are charged by the older charger and they require regular water replenishment. If I were going to keep the boat, I'd consider investing in a smart charger for them as well. Might be worth considering on the GB, though. Eisboch |
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On Mar 10, 1:59�pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On 10 Mar 2007 12:23:23 -0800, "Chuck Gould" wrote: "Large battery banks that are difficult to access" sounds like a serious problem, at least on a boat. What do you do when it's time to replace 'em? Also, with all of the plumbing, etc, how do you get the lid back onto the battery box? Cut some additional holes? (I use a hydro-cap on my Rolls batteries, does a lot to prevent loss of electrolyte), Funny you should ask about replacement since I just had to do that. It was a heavy duty 8D weighing about 130 lbs or so. *It's installed back under a shelf in the engine room which makes checking and adding water difficult. *To make matters worse I've installed a bank of 4 golf cart batts outside of the 8D in their own custom box with a lot of jumper wires for the series/parallel arrangement. * In order to remove the 8D I had to uninstall the golf carts, the jumper wires and the golf cart box. *Then I had to slide the 8D out of its hole under the shelf and horse it up out of the engine compartment. *Not a fun job, and I ended up giving myself a mild case of tendonitis in my right elbow. My theory (thus far unproven) is that an automatic watering systems would allow me to take better care of the almost inaccessible 8D and get better life out of it. *The tubing for the plumbing system looks like it is quite thin and should exit out of the existing cutout in the battery box. *We'll see. *First I've got to finish some other projects and then find out how much these fancy battery caps cost. The tubing and filling arrangement should be very inexpensive. The Rolls hydrocaps are nice but I don't know if you can get them for a standard 8D. *How much height do they add? One of the major reasons I used the Rolls 8D, (aside from a 10 year warranty wiht the first 7 not pro-rated) is that they are so super easy to install and replace. You never lift more than about 30 pounds at a whack, as you bolt 6 2-volt cells together inside a battery box. If your 8D's are in a tough spot, it's a lot easier to swap them out in 30-pound increments than making an awkward reach to try and lift a couple of hundred pounds of battery. Why put the chiropractor's seven kids through college? :-) |
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On 10 Mar 2007 17:08:01 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote: One of the major reasons I used the Rolls 8D, (aside from a 10 year warranty wiht the first 7 not pro-rated) is that they are so super easy to install and replace. Rolls makes a great battery, no question. On the other hand the cost of a Rolls 8D is somewhere north of $500 if my memory is correct. I recently purchased a brand X 8D from NAPA auto parts for $160. Assuming I get the usual 5 years from it, I'll be money ahead. |
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Wayne.B wrote in
: Rolls makes a great battery, no question. On the other hand the cost of a Rolls 8D is somewhere north of $500 if my memory is correct. I recently purchased a brand X 8D from NAPA auto parts for $160. Assuming I get the usual 5 years from it, I'll be money ahead. Yeah, but you will lose "dock prestige" if they ever discover the cheap batteries after all that braggin' about only using the most expensive batteries on earth in such a fine yacht....like the rest of them do.... Larry -- How much price inflation is caused by illegal aliens gobbling up goods and services, creating shortages for the natives? I heard 40%! |
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"Larry" wrote in message ... Wayne.B wrote in : Rolls makes a great battery, no question. On the other hand the cost of a Rolls 8D is somewhere north of $500 if my memory is correct. I recently purchased a brand X 8D from NAPA auto parts for $160. Assuming I get the usual 5 years from it, I'll be money ahead. Yeah, but you will lose "dock prestige" if they ever discover the cheap batteries after all that braggin' about only using the most expensive batteries on earth in such a fine yacht....like the rest of them do.... Larry -- Boaters ask each other questions about what systems they use on their boats -- happens in every marina, every day. If boater "A" says, "I use only Optima batteries!" because they like them, and boater "B" says, "Good enough, I prefer Rolls," is the Rolls owner bragging and expecting to gain this mythical "dock prestige," or are they simply passing on information? Would you have Rolls owners remain silent about their batteries to avoid appearing "snobbish," or would you have them lie, claiming instead that they use Duracells? You can be a very silly person at times, you know? |
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