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Boat plans.
Hi All,
I am planning to build a small sail boat to take on holiday and other family trips when we also take our caravan so it has to be light enough to "car top" a cross section as below.. l l l l \ / \ ______________________ / a flat bottom ( for the roof bars) and about 10' to 12' max length would be perfect. Does anyone have a link to a free plan close to my needs or have one they can e-mail me so I can then adapt it to my needs. watch out for the spam trap if e-mailing me direct!! |
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Boat plans.
wemfish says:
a flat bottom ( for the roof bars) If you carry your boat upside-down, it has two advantages: 1. The sheerline (upper edges of hull) is necessarily at the same level each side, reducing the need for a flat bottom. 2. The boat doesn't fill up with water/road crud while you drive. The rainwater can be a major source of irritation when you try to unload, or corner, or..... Steve "there's a reason why most car=topped boats are upside-down..." |
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Summer Breeze at www.simplicityboats.com is 11.5 ft simply made out of two
sheets of 1/4" plywood and weighs about 100 lb. You'll need two adults to lift if on an off the roof of a vehicle. The height of the transom was limited by the amount of materials allowed in the design contest this boat won. I'd make the transom lower as it rides too high out of the water, shortens the waterline length, and reduces speed a bit, but that's not a major failing. "wemfish" (wemfish AT tiscali.co.uk) writes: Hi All, I am planning to build a small sail boat to take on holiday and other family trips when we also take our caravan so it has to be light enough to "car top" a cross section as below.. l l l l \ / \ ______________________ / a flat bottom ( for the roof bars) and about 10' to 12' max length would be perfect. Does anyone have a link to a free plan close to my needs or have one they can e-mail me so I can then adapt it to my needs. watch out for the spam trap if e-mailing me direct!! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ William R Watt National Capital FreeNet Ottawa's free community network homepage: www.ncf.ca/~ag384/top.htm warning: non-freenet email must have "notspam" in subject or it's returned |
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On Sun, 2 May 2004 16:08:14 +0100, "wemfish" wemfish AT
tiscali.co.uk wrote: Hi All, I am planning to build a small sail boat to take on holiday and other family trips when we also take our caravan so it has to be light enough to "car top" a cross section as below.. a flat bottom ( for the roof bars) and about 10' to 12' max length would be perfect. Does anyone have a link to a free plan close to my needs or have one they can e-mail me so I can then adapt it to my needs. watch out for the spam trap if e-mailing me direct!! Good on you. Get over the "free plans" thing, though. Boat designers need to eat, too. Google on "dynamite payson" "glen-l" "wooden boat store" "jacques mertens" or "phil bolger." The world is full of plans for boats in that size range. Most of the good plans cost a few bucks, and worth every penny. - Rick "Not a professional boat designer" Tyler -- "Ignorant voracity -- a wingless vulture -- can soar only into the depths of ignominy." Patrick O'Brian |
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Another reason to mount the boat upside down is you can make it streamline
with your car. You could build a boat that matches your caravan's finish and follows your roofline like a van conversion. Use the van to shape the gunnels, either as a model to carve out foam shapes, or as a plug to mold the gunnels directly in fiberglass. "wemfish" wemfish AT tiscali.co.uk wrote in message ... Hi All, I am planning to build a small sail boat to take on holiday and other family trips when we also take our caravan so it has to be light enough to "car top" a cross section as below.. l l l l \ / \ ______________________ / a flat bottom ( for the roof bars) and about 10' to 12' max length would be perfect. Does anyone have a link to a free plan close to my needs or have one they can e-mail me so I can then adapt it to my needs. watch out for the spam trap if e-mailing me direct!! |
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And then put some real neat aluminum running boards all the way from the front tires to the back and some white wall tires.. Buy some wraparound sunglasses and drive reeeeal slow with the turn signal on (forever) and you're THERE, dude! Haha! (No offense, anyone...) -- http://www.advantagecomposites.com/tongass -- My 22' Tolman Skiff project http://www.advantagecomposites.com/catalog -- Discounted System Three Resins products .. "Robert Haston" wrote in message ink.net... Another reason to mount the boat upside down is you can make it streamline with your car. You could build a boat that matches your caravan's finish and follows your roofline like a van conversion. Use the van to shape the gunnels, either as a model to carve out foam shapes, or as a plug to mold the gunnels directly in fiberglass. "wemfish" wemfish AT tiscali.co.uk wrote in message ... Hi All, I am planning to build a small sail boat to take on holiday and other family trips when we also take our caravan so it has to be light enough to "car top" a cross section as below.. l l l l \ / \ ______________________ / a flat bottom ( for the roof bars) and about 10' to 12' max length would be perfect. Does anyone have a link to a free plan close to my needs or have one they can e-mail me so I can then adapt it to my needs. watch out for the spam trap if e-mailing me direct!! |
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I seam to have one missing post (or more)? Can whoever posted after Rick
Taylor and before Robert Haston please repost. Thank you. Stuart. "Robert Haston" wrote in message ink.net... Another reason to mount the boat upside down is you can make it streamline with your car. You could build a boat that matches your caravan's finish and follows your roofline like a van conversion. Use the van to shape the gunnels, either as a model to carve out foam shapes, or as a plug to mold the gunnels directly in fiberglass. "wemfish" wemfish AT tiscali.co.uk wrote in message ... Hi All, I am planning to build a small sail boat to take on holiday and other family trips when we also take our caravan so it has to be light enough to "car top" a cross section as below.. l l l l \ / \ ______________________ / a flat bottom ( for the roof bars) and about 10' to 12' max length would be perfect. Does anyone have a link to a free plan close to my needs or have one they can e-mail me so I can then adapt it to my needs. watch out for the spam trap if e-mailing me direct!! |
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"wemfish" wemfish AT tiscali.co.uk wrote in message ...
I seam to have one missing post (or more)? Can whoever posted after Rick Taylor and before Robert Haston please repost. Thank you. Stuart. "Robert Haston" wrote in message ink.net... Another reason to mount the boat upside down is you can make it streamline with your car. You could build a boat that matches your caravan's finish and follows your roofline like a van conversion. Use the van to shape the gunnels, either as a model to carve out foam shapes, or as a plug to mold the gunnels directly in fiberglass. "wemfish" wemfish AT tiscali.co.uk wrote in message ... Hi All, I am planning to build a small sail boat to take on holiday and other family trips when we also take our caravan so it has to be light enough to "car top" a cross section as below.. l l l l \ / \ ______________________ / a flat bottom ( for the roof bars) and about 10' to 12' max length would be perfect. Does anyone have a link to a free plan close to my needs or have one they can e-mail me so I can then adapt it to my needs. watch out for the spam trap if e-mailing me direct!! Some of the guys are having a good time with you. As a newbie you probably are not aware of the kinds of issues you bring up when you talk about free plans so I give you a pass. Find the Gardner books at the local library and look up the Dual purpose skiff, 12 feet, nice shear, would probably take a better size vehicle and maybe a rack extention to rooftop it. Nice boat, flat bottom, Gunter rig sail for easy storage, sweet "down east" lines especially the shear. When mine is done it should weigh about 120 lbs as I am currently building a light weight cartoppable version I have adapted from the origional design which would be heavier. There is a place to start but don't ask me for the rework I did as it is not on paper and probably won't be, specially for free Scotty from.......... ugh, still can't do it! Make the F***** rain stop, please. |
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Thankyou to all those that have given me help either direct e-mail or
through this news group. Sorry if the mention of free plans has offended ( I presumed as news groups are free, that we are all asking for and giving free information, it would not be a problem? I will probably end up using a CAD program from a binary NG (for free) and use it to design my own boat. I was simply asking for a few lines as a guide to start from. if my plan is then of use to anyone else I will pass it to them for nothing. . . Cheers, Stuart. |
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wemfish says:
Sorry if the mention of free plans has offended ( Not so much offended, as the fact that you are the latest in a long line of folks looking for free plans. An admirable search, to be sure, but some of us make a living drawing said plans, and if we give them away, the kids whine with hunger. ;-) I presumed as news groups are free, that we are all asking for and giving free information, it would not be a problem? No more than walking into a pub (which is free) and expecting free whiskey for the night. If you see what I mean. I will probably end up using a CAD program from a binary NG (for free) and use it to design my own boat. If you have questions about design, please feel free (no pun intended) to post them here. There are a number of qualified folks who are happy to help out. I was simply asking for a few lines as a guide to start from. See the booklist in Scotty's post - it is a good one, and will definately get you started in the right direction. Steve Stephen C. Baker - Yacht Designer http://members.aol.com/SailDesign/pr...cbweb/home.htm |
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