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Jet Ski overheating problem
In article . net,
Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote: And what about the power boater that will become a sailboat after he raises his sails and turns off the motor. Just because he carries sails, he should have all the right of way? I carry a paddle on my powerboat, should I not have right of way over a sailboat? Bill, you really need to read the Rules of the Road section of the colregs... really.... just read them and get back to us. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article . net, Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote: And what about the power boater that will become a sailboat after he raises his sails and turns off the motor. Just because he carries sails, he should have all the right of way? I carry a paddle on my powerboat, should I not have right of way over a sailboat? Bill, you really need to read the Rules of the Road section of the colregs... really.... just read them and get back to us. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Answer my questions if you can. And refer to the Colregs as to why that sailboater with the engine running is a sailboat. |
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Jet Ski overheating problem
Bill McKee wrote:
.... Answer my questions if you can. And refer to the Colregs as to why that sailboater with the engine running is a sailboat. Rule 3 (c) The term “sailing vessel” means any vessel under sail provided that propelling machinery, if fitted, is not being used. It says "being used" not "running." Big difference. And its specifically mentions "propelling machinery" implying the engine must be used for propelling. Would you claim that an engine being used for ballast makes it a powerboat? Further, if you're on another boat and see an exhaust from a sailboat that otherwise appears to be sailing, are you free to treat it as a powerboat? Of course not, that might simply be a genset. Sorry Bill, its pretty clear you don't really understand the rules. |
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"Jeff" wrote in message ... Bill McKee wrote: ... Answer my questions if you can. And refer to the Colregs as to why that sailboater with the engine running is a sailboat. Rule 3 (c) The term “sailing vessel” means any vessel under sail provided that propelling machinery, if fitted, is not being used. It says "being used" not "running." Big difference. And its specifically mentions "propelling machinery" implying the engine must be used for propelling. Would you claim that an engine being used for ballast makes it a powerboat? Further, if you're on another boat and see an exhaust from a sailboat that otherwise appears to be sailing, are you free to treat it as a powerboat? Of course not, that might simply be a genset. Sorry Bill, its pretty clear you don't really understand the rules. Bzzt: You are wrong. |
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Jet Ski overheating problem
Bill McKee wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message ... Bill McKee wrote: ... Answer my questions if you can. And refer to the Colregs as to why that sailboater with the engine running is a sailboat. Rule 3 (c) The term “sailing vessel” means any vessel under sail provided that propelling machinery, if fitted, is not being used. It says "being used" not "running." Big difference. And its specifically mentions "propelling machinery" implying the engine must be used for propelling. Would you claim that an engine being used for ballast makes it a powerboat? Further, if you're on another boat and see an exhaust from a sailboat that otherwise appears to be sailing, are you free to treat it as a powerboat? Of course not, that might simply be a genset. Sorry Bill, its pretty clear you don't really understand the rules. Bzzt: You are wrong. Bzzt: You are wrong. And its pretty clear you're a dangerous jackass who doesn't belong on the water. Anyone who claims its common and proper to pass within 15 feet of boats doing 25 MPH shouldn't be out there. |
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Jet Ski overheating problem
Jeff wrote in
: proper to pass within 15 feet of boats doing 25 MPH shouldn't be out there. It's 50 ft in South Carolina...just like for a dock. 200' from the marina. -- Larry |
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Here are a couple of the applicable rules to consider.
Note the specific rule for vessels less than 20 metres or a sailing vessel (any length) in a narrow channel. Note the specific rule on overtaking in narrow channels. There are also rules on safe speed which I am happy to provide to help the discussion. People with more savvy than any of use created and continue to improve the rules. It is up to us to learn them. Rule 9 Narrow Channels--International (a)A vessel proceeding along the course of a narrow channel or fairway shall keep as near to the outer limit of the channel or fairway which lies on her starboard side as is safe and practicable. (b)A vessel of less than 20 metres in length or a sailing vessel shall not impede the passage of a vessel which can safely navigate only within a narrow channel or fairway. (d)A vessel shall not cross a narrow channel or fairway if such crossing impedes the passage of a vessel which can safely navigate only within such channel or fairway. The latter vessel may use the sound signal prescribed in Rule 34(d) if in doubt as to the intention of the crossing vessel. (e)(i)In a narrow channel or fairway when overtaking can take place only if the vessel to be overtaken has to take action to permit safe passing, the vessel intending to overtake shall indicate her intention by sounding the appropriate signal prescribed in Rule 34(c)(i). The vessel to be overtaken shall, if in agreement, sound the appropriate signal prescribed in Rule 34(c)(ii) and take steps to permit safe passing. If in doubt she may sound the signals prescribed in Rule 34(d). (ii) This Rule does not relieve the overtaking vessel of her obligation under Rule 13. Rule 13 Overtaking--International (a)Notwithstanding anything contained in the Rules of Part B, Sections I and II, any vessel overtaking any other vessel shall keep out of the way of the vessel being overtaken. (d)Any subsequent alteration of the bearing between the two vessels shall not make the overtaking vessel a crossing vessel within the meaning of these Rules or relieve her of the duty of keeping clear of the overtaken vessel until she is finally past and clear. |
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"Larry" wrote in message ... Jeff wrote in : proper to pass within 15 feet of boats doing 25 MPH shouldn't be out there. It's 50 ft in South Carolina...just like for a dock. 200' from the marina. -- Larry |
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"Larry" wrote in message ... Jeff wrote in : proper to pass within 15 feet of boats doing 25 MPH shouldn't be out there. It's 50 ft in South Carolina...just like for a dock. 200' from the marina. -- Larry I guess you never pass on a 2 lane road. Both oncoming and same direction traffic. |
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Bill McKee wrote:
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article . net, Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote: And what about the power boater that will become a sailboat after he raises his sails and turns off the motor. Just because he carries sails, he should have all the right of way? I carry a paddle on my powerboat, should I not have right of way over a sailboat? Bill, you really need to read the Rules of the Road section of the colregs... really.... just read them and get back to us. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Answer my questions if you can. And refer to the Colregs as to why that sailboater with the engine running is a sailboat. A sailboat has right of way sometimes because he is sailing and sometimes that impairs his ability to adjust his course and speed as is required of power driven vessels. Don't think of a 30 foot sloop, think of a 150' square rigger. When the rules were written they weren't written with smal pleasure boats in mind, they were written with ships in mind. When you are paddling your power boat you do have some privileges over some other boats. If a 25 knot power boat over takes you he has to keep clear. (More than 15 feet unless the channel is 30 feet wide, then he should slow to less than 25 knots) The important thing is behave in a seamanlike manner. Gary |
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