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On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 18:29:32 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote: pete wrote: Hi Peggie, I'm building a van de stadt 34... Bigger than I thought...I was envisioning something 24-26'. and I'm putting in a Jabsco manual toilet. You might want to consider something a bit more durable and reliable. For your use and that boat, I'd take a hard look at the Blake Lavac. Alternatively, the Raritan PH II. Either with give you FAR more trouble-free service than a Jabsco. Too late, already got the jabsco, went for it because the Blake (had on in my old boat) was so far out of my buget it must be made of platinum. Maybe they are cheaper in the US. As regards the waterline stuff, the bowl is about 2 inches above and I am putting in the vented loops... If you stick with a piston/cylinder toilet, remember that the INTAKE vented loop has to go between the pump and the bowl--to replace the short piece of hose the toilet mfr used to connect 'em. If you put it between the thru-hull and the pump, the toilet will have a hard time priming. Back to your thru-hulls for a minute...where will your head sink drain? Will it be on the same side of the keel as the toilet? If so, have you thought of using the same thru-hull for both the sink and the toilet intake? They're the same size...many builders tee the head intake into the head sink drain to eliminate a thru-hull. And, it has the added advantage of providing a source of clean fresh water to rinse the sea water out of the system so it can't stagnate and stink while the boat sits. Thats a very good idea that I will certainly use. Hate the thought of boring holes in my nice new hull. Thanks I've just about got enough room for a diverter valve to send the nasty stuff into the tank when its there. I sail in the atlantic from French/Uk waters and don't need a tank. I gathered from your reference to lagers and curry that you were most likely in the UK. Y'all are apparently as addicted to curry as we are to cheeseburgers. A Brit living in France, and I miss my curry in the med we need tanks, but soon the legislation will come for all. Yep...already in the draft stage... Personally I think its fine in the med, in port and non tidal seas or lakes, but I don't beleive that yachtsmen contribute greatly to pollution of the seas, one needs to look inland for the culprits. Most yachtsmen I have come across over 30 odd years of sailing are pretty responsible people, but thats another argument I suppose. You're "preaching to the choir"...I'm on your side. I don't make the rules, I'm just the messenger. Thanks for the help Pete |
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pete wrote:
Too late, already got the jabsco, went for it because the Blake (had on in my old boat) was so far out of my buget it must be made of platinum. Maybe they are cheaper in the US. You could take it back...'cuz you're gonna find that going from a Blake to a Jabsco is like going from a Mercedes to a Yugo! There ARE choices in between that are affordable. The Lavac is made by Blake, but doesn't cost nearly what the "baby Blake" does..about $350 USD. The Raritan PH II is an excellent toilet, rated the best under $500 for several decades...it's about $250 USD. Give it some thought, anyway... Back to your thru-hulls for a minute...where will your head sink drain? Will it be on the same side of the keel as the toilet? If so, have you thought of using the same thru-hull for both the sink and the toilet intake? They're the same size...many builders tee the head intake into the head sink drain to eliminate a thru-hull. And, it has the added advantage of providing a source of clean fresh water to rinse the sea water out of the system so it can't stagnate and stink while the boat sits. Thats a very good idea that I will certainly use. Hate the thought of boring holes in my nice new hull. Thanks You'll either a need a good plug for the sink or a shutoff valve in the sink drain line ahead of the tee...'cuz unless you close off the sink, the toilet will pull air from it, preventing the pump from priming. As for your toilet discharge thru-hull...leave a space within 6' of the toilet for your eventual inevitable tank. That will allow you to tee the discharge line from it into your existing head discharge thru-hull. I'll be glad to help you spec it out when the time comes. And btw...Tek-Tank is the best UK source for tanks. Btw, if you aren't there already, you might want to drop by the YBW.com forums. They're a pretty good bunch over there. Give another shout if I can help further... -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://www.seaworthy.com/store/custo...0&cat=6&page=1 http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327 |
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I'll vouch for the Raritan PH II's. I put two on board four years ago
and haven't had a single problem. One PM rebuild on each, probably didn't even need that. Need to lube the wet/dry flush selector every 4-6 months or so, when it starts squeaking, but that's a 5 minute job. Peggie recommends lubing the main cylinder annually or so, but on this toilet, you may as well just rebuild it by the time you take all that apart. One other item.. be sure the outlet is aft of the intake! |
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Went for a Blake Lavac Zenith for the aft head - simple and mechanical
and only 10 euros at an NL boat jumble. Bought 2 new seals - cost more than the Zenith. Intake water is sucked from a 6 litre domestic loo cistern which is plumbed directly into FW supply - just like at home (fresh water capacity is 6500 litres, so I guess a little more than the average yacht). Outlet has Y valve to tank - 2800 litres!!! or discharge overboard via syphon loop. Pics etc at http://www.rmstone.screaming.net/int...internal1.html |
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