Old Nick,

I really don't know what you are asking. As stated, finding people to
to do what you would call a side job is hard. Most people are looking
for long term employment with benifits.

One gent accepted the job of welding the outside seams on the steel
plates. A few days after he was to start, he called and decided it was
too much work for him. (he only works one day a week at his regular
job) So I did it myself.

As far as "hmm...would _you_ work on somebody else's dream for what you
paid those guys?" $15per hour x 3 people x 8 hours a day works out to a
nice weekend job. If I could help someone out at the same rete, you bet
I would. His dream or not is not the question. Finding workers is.

To answer your "Injuries while building? Onsite injuries?". Yes and no.
I am a retired Marine with a 60% service connected disibility. You
figure out which is which. When you come up with an answer let me know.
Leonard

Thank you guys, I will consider your advices





U¿ytkownik "Tomek" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
...
-How much is to buy a 55 ft alloy hull of a blue water cruiser for further
development (just hull, pure alloy no equipment)?
-How much is to equipe it only with wooden furnitures?
-I ask because its easy to find prices for electronics, engine etc. but
couldnt find any information concerning above.
-How meny % can be saved or wasted on buying things separately and
commision
experts to put things together and doing minor works myself

I am 29 and would like to spend my 40th birthday on the yacht which will
become my home when I`ll retire. 11 years is plenty of time and I am not
in
the hurry

On 27 Jan 2005 06:57:39 -0800, "Leonard" vaguely
proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:

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I really don't know what you are asking. As stated, finding people to
to do what you would call a side job is hard. Most people are looking
for long term employment with benifits.

Yep. So you have to pay the rates, or get the latinos.


One gent accepted the job of welding the outside seams on the steel
plates. A few days after he was to start, he called and decided it was
too much work for him. (he only works one day a week at his regular
job) So I did it myself.

I can see that would be irritating. But maybe he realised he was not
getting enough out of it. Maybe not.

As far as "hmm...would _you_ work on somebody else's dream for what you
paid those guys?" $15per hour x 3 people x 8 hours a day works out to a
nice weekend job. If I could help someone out at the same rete, you bet
I would. His dream or not is not the question. Finding workers is.

Work for $15 per hour was what I meant. Not times 3 guys.

The dream is at issue. There is a lot of difference between working on
something you believe on and something you have tyo do for the money.

These guys are not there "to help you out". They are not your pals,
and nor are they charitable institutiuons.

Finding workers is usually possible if you pay enough. Before you
complain about what people want, think about whether you would work
for the same pay, on a job you were not interested in beyond the
money.

Old Nick,
Why don't you learn to think before you open your mouth.

If you could read, and undrestand basic math you would see that I said
I paid $15 an hour per person. ($15x3x8) = $15 per hour (per person) x
3 people x 8 hours per day. If you can find 3 people willing to work
for a total of $15 an hour just sent them over to me.

Dreams have nothing to do with a job. Did you ever work? Was it your
dream job? Did you just work for the money? No need to answer the
question. Everyone already knows the answer.

Latino's seem to be the only people willing to put in an honest days
work. They already have day jobs and only work side jobs on weekends.
Why they work so hard and what they set the price at is their busness,
not mine. Americans had that work ethic at one time, but those days
seem to be long gone.

When was the last time you worked? What is wrong with a $15 an hour
side job? I can remember when auto workers took a pay cut to a mear $27
an hour just to keep the company going.

If you are just some troll out to make a fool out of yourself, don't
bother me with your stupidity.

Leonard wrote:
... Americans had that work ethic at one time, but those days
seem to be long gone.

Thank goodness... most of the Yankees who move here complain that
Southerners don't have any work ethic. I'm so relieved to hear it's true
of all Americans.

DSK

On 31 Jan 2005 06:53:57 -0800, "Leonard" vaguely
proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:

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Old Nick,
Why don't you learn to think before you open your mouth.

If you could read, and undrestand basic math you would see that I said
I paid $15 an hour per person. ($15x3x8) = $15 per hour (per person) x
3 people x 8 hours per day. If you can find 3 people willing to work
for a total of $15 an hour just sent them over to me.

Why don't you learn to read. It is easy to interpret that you would
work for $15 X 3 dolars per hour. You said that 15 x 3 x x hours per
day was a good job to work at.


Dreams have nothing to do with a job. Did you ever work? Was it your
dream job? Did you just work for the money? No need to answer the
question. Everyone already knows the answer.

Many people who have a dream seem to forget that other people _will_
be working for money. They want to pay peanuts and wonder why nobody
is interested.

Well I don't. I worked for money and for dreams. but these guys are
working just for the money. They could not give a rat's about your
boat. Get it? The ony reason you got some poor bloody South of the
border guys was because they could get nothing else.


Latino's seem to be the only people willing to put in an honest days
work. They already have day jobs and only work side jobs on weekends.
Why they work so hard and what they set the price at is their busness,
not mine. Americans had that work ethic at one time, but those days
seem to be long gone.


When was the last time you worked?

WTF has that got to do with it? What about you? When did you last work
for $15 / hour on someone else's job. I work for _nothing_ most of the
time, because I am pursuing a dream. It is not a boat, but it has been
in the past. I have worked a few for $10 / hour for a whole weekend
for a _friend_, to help their dream. But I am not about to rush about
doing it for everybody.

What is wrong with a $15 an hour
side job?

When did _you_ last do a lot of weekends at $15 / hour?

I can remember when auto workers took a pay cut to a mear $27
an hour just to keep the company going.

So there you go. Pay $27/hour.


If you are just some troll out to make a fool out of yourself, don't
bother me with your stupidity.

No. I reacted badly to your bad-ass assertions about lazy people, when
I think you need a reality check. Make blatantly judgemental comments
and take what you get. You started this track of discussion.