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Clearance on cabinetwork?
Just put the finishing touches on the forward stateroom. The last thing was
a 6 drawer stack. Stainless full extention slides with push-pull latches. Perfectly aligned with an even 1/32" clearance around all the drawer faces. As I was admiring my work I suddenly remembered that this is a boat! Things move! Now I am worried that once Rutu is in the water and has tension on the rigging if the frame racks even a little I will never get the drawers open again. I am thinking I should plane the drawer faces down a little but how much allowance should I give for movement? -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
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On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 18:43:40 -0500, "Glenn Ashmore"
wrote: Just put the finishing touches on the forward stateroom. The last thing was a 6 drawer stack. Stainless full extention slides with push-pull latches. Perfectly aligned with an even 1/32" clearance around all the drawer faces. As I was admiring my work I suddenly remembered that this is a boat! Things move! Now I am worried that once Rutu is in the water and has tension on the rigging if the frame racks even a little I will never get the drawers open again. I am thinking I should plane the drawer faces down a little but how much allowance should I give for movement? With your usual attention to detail, you ensured the stack was supported on three hard points, and tethered compliantly with perhaps three somewhat flexible tethers. You did didn't you? If not, a shakedown trip will confirm the stiffness of the hull. Brian W |
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Glenn Ashmore wrote:
Just put the finishing touches on the forward stateroom. The last thing was a 6 drawer stack. Stainless full extention slides with push-pull latches. Perfectly aligned with an even 1/32" clearance around all the drawer faces. As I was admiring my work I suddenly remembered that this is a boat! Things move! Now I am worried that once Rutu is in the water and has tension on the rigging if the frame racks even a little I will never get the drawers open again. I am thinking I should plane the drawer faces down a little but how much allowance should I give for movement? Glenn With cabinetmaking, even on land you have to allow something for movement in the wood. The extent, if any, that the carcase will lozenge (go out of square) once the boat is rigged and underway will depend on how it is fitted into the frames of the boat. Probably the only way to get the accuracy of fit that you desire is to use false fronts on the drawers and adjust/plane these to fit once the boat is rigged and in the water. HTH Johnno |
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Maybe if the drawer front backs were tapered they would still fit if the cabinet goes a bit out of square, like a cork in a wine bottle. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ William R Watt National Capital FreeNet Ottawa's free community network homepage: www.ncf.ca/~ag384/top.htm warning: non-FreeNet email must have "notspam" in subject or it's returned |
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On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 18:43:40 -0500, "Glenn Ashmore"
wrote: Just put the finishing touches on the forward stateroom. The last thing was a 6 drawer stack. Stainless full extention slides with push-pull latches. Perfectly aligned with an even 1/32" clearance around all the drawer faces. As I was admiring my work I suddenly remembered that this is a boat! Things move! Now I am worried that once Rutu is in the water and has tension on the rigging if the frame racks even a little I will never get the drawers open again. I am thinking I should plane the drawer faces down a little but how much allowance should I give for movement? Even on dry land 1/32 is a bit tight for drawers, everything moves and settles a little even with drawer slides. Depending on the boat cradle you may find the boat flexing and relaxing even without rig tension when the hull is launched and the hull is fully supported. It depends on how much of the cabinet supporting the drawers relies upon the hull for stability. Normally you can taper the sides of the drawer front a little but be prepared to refix the drawer slides later on because if the whole cabinet flexes out of line, then no matter how expensive the slides are they will bind enough to cause wear. and tear to themselves. In fact I hate the blasted things, a loose fitting drawer on runners with a bit of parrafin wax suits me better but then I just hate progress! I think the mass production boys leave a gap of around 3mm in cabinet work. Seems ok to me and I'm a furniture maker. A boat is not a chateau, but then that's just my opinion. |
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Silent Running writes:
Even on dry land 1/32 is a bit tight for drawers, everything moves and settles a little even with drawer slides. Yep. snip In fact I hate the blasted things, a loose fitting drawer on runners with a bit of parrafin wax suits me better but then I just hate progress! No matter how you do it, drawers and doors are high maintenance items on a boat. I like bins and drapes. Less weight, less maintenance, and better air circulation. A boat is not a chateau, but then that's just my opinion. I'll drink to that. Lew |
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Clearance on cabinetwork?
Glenn Ashmore wrote:
Just put the finishing touches on the forward stateroom. The last thing was a 6 drawer stack. Stainless full extention slides with push-pull latches. Perfectly aligned with an even 1/32" clearance around all the drawer faces. As I was admiring my work I suddenly remembered that this is a boat! Things move! Now I am worried that once Rutu is in the water and has tension on the rigging if the frame racks even a little I will never get the drawers open again. I am thinking I should plane the drawer faces down a little but how much allowance should I give for movement? Take the drawers out before launch, put them in after a hard sail, trim to fit. I would just go for 1/4" clearance and not worry. Beautiful form always follows function. Don't forget, humidity + wood = fatter wood. Terry K |
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Clearance on cabinetwork?
Glenn Ashmore wrote:
Just put the finishing touches on the forward stateroom. The last thing was a 6 drawer stack. Stainless full extention slides with push-pull latches. Perfectly aligned with an even 1/32" clearance around all the drawer faces. As I was admiring my work I suddenly remembered that this is a boat! Things move! Now I am worried that once Rutu is in the water and has tension on the rigging if the frame racks even a little I will never get the drawers open again. I am thinking I should plane the drawer faces down a little but how much allowance should I give for movement? One of the better arguments I've seen for not having drawers on a boat. An even better argument for using slide out baskets and drapes. Less weight, better ventilation, more usable space, etc, etc. Lew |
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