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"Charles Momsen" wrote in message
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Thanks, the parallels are downright frightening. I've been telling these
lubbers here for years to make sure they have a well-provisioned, stout,
blue water vessel readily at hand and that they should locate themselves in
a coastal area outside of any closable assets so they can flee immediately
at the very first hint martial law will be enforced. It's coming and make no
mistake about it. It's just a matter of time.

Earlier, mostly thanks to Ronald Reagan, I thought I'd be able to live out
my "golden" years in relative peace, quiet, security and prosperity. Now,
with the election of the far-leftist Obama and an equally leftist congress
all supported by the gimme-gimme socialist types, it appears that my
lifelong obsession with physical fitness may well pay off as, instead of a
nice comfy retirement in a land of freedom with excellent health care
available, it looks to me like I might well have to flee Marxism and cope
with things in unfamiliar seas and undeveloped lands that would kill your
average, feeble senior citizen. But, I am ready, willing and able when the
need arises.

Any and all like-minded citizens should arm yourself and have a plan. Don't
assume freedom is a right. It is not. It is something that has to be fought
for. Think what might happen to you should martial law be invoked and entire
cities are closed to traffic in or out "for security reasons" and in the
meantime you starve or die from lack of basic services.

Let the swine who voted for the sties sleep in them and then be dragged out
to the slaughter. They deserve nothing better. They haven't learned any
history at all. Too ignorant and selfish, the lot of them.

Wilbur Hubbard

On Nov 13, 2:47*pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Charles Momsen" wrote in message


Let the swine who voted for the sties sleep in them and then be dragged out
to the slaughter. They deserve nothing better. They haven't learned any
history at all. Too ignorant and selfish, the lot of them.

Wilbur Hubbard

My Dear Wilbur:

typcially I agree completly most times with your recreational maritime
words. However you are completly misguided with your political
beliefs.
I voted for Obama. I too hold most the lubbers found here in contempt.
Obama will be greatly more sucessfull running this county compared to
Bush or McCaine.
Bob

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 01:14:09 -0800 (PST), Bob
wrote this crap:

typcially I agree completly most times with your recreational maritime
words. However you are completly misguided with your political
beliefs.
I voted for Obama. I too hold most the lubbers found here in contempt.
Obama will be greatly more sucessfull running this county compared to
Bush or McCaine.
Bob


You are dreaming. The terrorists were celebrating this election.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

"Bob" wrote in message
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My Dear Wilbur:

typcially I agree completly most times with your recreational maritime
words. However you are completly misguided with your political
beliefs.
I voted for Obama. I too hold most the lubbers found here in contempt.
Obama will be greatly more sucessfull running this country [into the
ground] compared to
Bush or McCaine.


Note: I corrected your obvious oversight.

Wilbur Hubbard

On Nov 16, 10:54*am, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

I voted for Obama. I too hold most the lubbers found here in contempt.
Obama will be greatly more sucessfull running this country [into the
ground] compared to
Bush or McCaine.

Note: I corrected your obvious oversight.

Wilbur Hubbard

And how would describe our current situation brought on durring 8
years of Republican leadership?

The chickens have come home to roost my maritime friend. We HAVE ran
this county into the ground.
By blaming the Dems for all our problmes says the Bush adminstration
is completly feable and the Democratic party is completly and
overwhelmingly poweful.
If that is the case I say throw the wimp girly president out and get
someone in there who knows how to get the job done.
Bob

"Bob" wrote in message
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\ And how would describe our current situation brought on durring 8
\ years of Republican leadership?

Sorry, Bob, but everybody who isn't a Kool Aid drinking, Democrat sychophant
knows the current downturn in the economy was brought about almost entirely
by the Democrat congress. It all started with Freddy and Fannie which were
run by Democrats and beholding to Democrats. It was Democrat congresses who
passed laws forcing banks to give mortgages to people who had no downpayment
and even less chance of being able to pay the damned things back. Then
Freddy and Fannie bought and packaged these bad loans and resold them up the
line and eventually into the hedge funds. Untenable packaged into increasing
untenable.

Sorry, but the whole house of cards came tumbling down not because of
anything the President or Republicans did. As a matter of fact, it was
President Bush and Republicans who foresaw this dire situation we find
ourselves in today and tried to pass legislation to fix it (sponsored by
John McCaine). Sadly but not unexpectedly, the Democrats wouldn't even let
the leglislation out of committee. Try not to forget that it is Congress and
not the President that passes legislation. All the President can do is sign
off on it or veto it. In this case it wasn't the President but the Democrat
congress that is to blame.

Another very large factor in the worsening economy is the extremely costly
energy prices the world over this past two years. This also can be mostly
blamed on Democrats who are beholded to the environmental cultists because
Democrats shut down drilling and exploration for the most part. They also
shut down new coal fired plants and new nuclear plants. They also held up
any new refineries. In other words exhorbitant energy prices can be blamed
squarely on Democrat stupidity.

WAKE UP! How can you be so blind?

\
\ The [Democrat policy]chickens have come home to roost my maritime friend.
We HAVE ran
\ this county into the ground.

Yes, indeed, the Democrats sure did. They don't believe in free enterprise.
They don't like capitalism. They don't like free trade. They love tax and
spend. They love unions. They love entitlements. Under Obama they will nail
the lid on the coffine that once was the thriving economy of this once great
country. BELIEVE IT! As somebody who voted for Obama you got just what you
deserve. You're going to be getting Jimmy Carter squared.

\ By blaming the Dems for all our problmes says the Bush adminstration
\ is completly feable and the Democratic party is completly and
\ overwhelmingly poweful.

Not all-powerful but the things the Democrat party believe in and the
legislation they pass is destructive to the economy. They are socialists,
pure and simple, and socialism has never seen one single solitary case that
actually worked. Socialism has always failed. It is a totally unworkable
system. Sad that you voted for it.

Wilbur Hubbard

On Nov 16, 11:48*am, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Bob" wrote in message

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\ And how would describe our current situation brought on durring 8
\ years of Republican leadership?

Sorry, Bob, but everybody who isn't a Kool Aid drinking, Democrat sychophant
knows the current downturn in the economy was brought about almost entirely
by the Democrat congress.


So you are saying that the Dem congress brought the country down in
24 months. Damn them Republicans sure must be weenies if thats the
case.


It all started with Freddy and Fannie which were
run by Democrats and beholding to Democrats.

Who appointed the guy in charge? Mr. Bush. I guess he cant appoint
them all like good ole Brownie.


It was Democrat congresses who
passed laws forcing banks to give mortgages to people who had no downpayment
and even less chance of being able to pay the damned things back.


Only 12% of all home loans went to colored people.

Also, "first time buyer program" and a few others all required
DOCUMENTATION and VARIFIED income.

Then
Freddy and Fannie bought and packaged these bad loans

Yes, cause the RATING agencies reviewed the loans and gave them all A+
rating...... Now go find out WHO is in charge of the rating agencies
and try to determine WHY they would do such a stupid thing. I know
anyone as hungry for the truth will find the answer.

and resold them up the
line and eventually into the hedge funds. Untenable packaged into increasing
untenable.

Wilbur Hubbard

"Dave" wrote in message
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Let me try to chip away at some of your appalling ignorance on the subject

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 01:07:30 -0800 (PST), Bob said:


Who appointed the guy in charge? Mr. Bush. I guess he cant appoint
them all like good ole Brownie.

Guess again. The "guy in charge" in FNMA's case (I assume you mean the
president of that corporation) is chosen by the board of directors. The
current board of FNMA as of the date of its most recent annual meeting
consists entirely of directors chosen by stockholders. The President is
entitled to appoint 6 of the 18 directors. The appointments of the most
recent presidentially appointed directors expired in April of 2004, and
the
President left all of those slots unfilled.

I haven't checked GNMA, but you can do so if you with. Go to www.sec.gov
and
search for company filings of companies starting with "General National
Mortgage." The proxy statement is form 14A, and will tell you how the
board
is appointed and who its members are.

It was Democrat congresses who
passed laws forcing banks to give mortgages to people who had no
downpayment
and even less chance of being able to pay the damned things back.


Only 12% of all home loans went to colored people.

Of what relevance is that? Answer: none. Classic red herring

Also, "first time buyer program" and a few others all required
DOCUMENTATION and VARIFIED income.

Another red herring. Unless of course you believe that all the mortgages
out
there were made to people who could afford the payments.

Then
Freddy and Fannie bought and packaged these bad loans

Yes, cause the RATING agencies reviewed the loans and gave them all A+
rating...... Now go find out WHO is in charge of the rating agencies
and try to determine WHY they would do such a stupid thing. I know
anyone as hungry for the truth will find the answer.

The answer to the "why" is that the rating agencies had constructed
elaborate models to predict default rates based on previous experience.
The
problem with the models is that they were based on a time frame reflecting
steadily rising real estate prices. They were very poor at predicting
default rates in a falling market, because there just wasn't any data to
base the predictions on. Should someone have seen the problem? Absolutely.
But that kind of creative thinking is often sadly lacking among data whiz
kids.


So, since you left this out, I guess you agree with this statement... LOL

So you are saying that the Dem congress brought the country down in
24 months. Damn them Republicans sure must be weenies if thats the
case.


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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:08:52 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

So, since you left this out, I guess you agree with this statement...

You seem to be no better at guessing than Bob.


Well, you commented on the rest, so it's easy to assume that you agree with
it. Thanks for the clarification!

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