DID NOT write this
crap:

even the America's Cup guys are
happy to just aim the boat straight downwind.... never seen one go
wing-and-wing but they probably would


Bloody Horvath wrote:
Never! They use spinnakers.



What I wrote-
"In 30 knot winds, even the America's Cup guys are
happy to just aim the boat straight downwind.... never seen one go
wing-and-wing but they probably would"

In fact, among the Louis Vuitton series in Auckland, they had a few
races with gusts in the upper 20.... the leaders of those races were
happy to take their chutes down as early as they could without blowing
their lead. It wouldn't surprise me if there had been some wing-and-
wing-ing during that action. It would probably surprise Horvath
though.... he apparently can't read but maybe he can watch TV.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:48:28 -0700, wrote this
crap:

DID NOT write this
crap:

even the America's Cup guys are
happy to just aim the boat straight downwind.... never seen one go
wing-and-wing but they probably would


Bloody Horvath wrote:
Never! They use spinnakers.



What I wrote-
"In 30 knot winds, even the America's Cup guys are
happy to just aim the boat straight downwind.... never seen one go
wing-and-wing but they probably would"

In fact, among the Louis Vuitton series in Auckland, they had a few
races with gusts in the upper 20.... the leaders of those races were
happy to take their chutes down as early as they could without blowing
their lead. It wouldn't surprise me if there had been some wing-and-
wing-ing during that action. It would probably surprise Horvath
though.... he apparently can't read but maybe he can watch TV.


I also know what a "chicken shute" is. Did you ever see any
America's Cup racers go wing-and-wing?


I laugh at upper 20's. I've been in races where it was blowing so bad
that people died.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

"Bloody Horvath" wrote in message
news

I also know what "chicken ****" is.

I've been in races where I was blowing so bad
that people died laughing.


no doubt.

Sorry I made a wrong statement and let Neal get he personal ya-ya in,
Good Luck and have fun.

wrote in message
ups.com...
Isn't W-W the slowest sail set one can make?


Not down wind...


Well Duh! I didn't think he meant W-W close hauled!



Jax could do it!

DSK



Whatever happened to JAX?

"jlrogers" wrote in message


Whatever happened to JAX?


he sailed, under bare poles, to the furthest downwind port
and bought a cheap yacht, where he is currently writing his
7th definitive book.

SBV.

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"jlrogers" wrote in message


Whatever happened to JAX?


he sailed, under bare poles, to the furthest downwind port
and bought a cheap yacht, where he is currently writing his
7th definitive book.

SBV.

Does he have the same publisher as Bobsprit?

"jlrogers" wrote in message
et...

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"jlrogers" wrote in message


Whatever happened to JAX?


he sailed, under bare poles, to the furthest downwind
port
and bought a cheap yacht, where he is currently writing
his
7th definitive book.

SBV.

Does he have the same publisher as Bobsprit?


yes, Phantom Books.

BTW Richard, you could do well to get Ringmater's advice on
finding &
training a crew. C'mon Loco helo the guy out!

Most of my crew have been on the boat for around 8 years. When
starting out I went through a few friends and neighbors. Lesson:
Don't talk anyone into racing. Find people who are interested. When
you get friends and neighbors who are not into it they will be the
ones who you will have to call every week to see if they are going to
sail or if they will be going to the mall with their wife. My
philosophy on crewing on a boat is that it is the same as being on a
softball team or a bowling league. You show up. Some people seem to
think that because it's sailing they don't always have to show and
they don't bother to call. I tell my crew it's not a job but if you
can't make it please call on Monday not Tuesday night or Wednesday
afternoon. You can look for people who are interested on local club
websites. Sometimes they have a forum where interested people leave
their contact information. Even after you have a full crew you should
contact new people every year to see if they would like to sub for
regulars who can't make it from time to time. Benifits of doing this
are you have a group of subs and secondly you get to meet people
before you commit. How to keep crew: Only yell when someone is about
to do something stupid and break something. Also, tell every new
crewmember that you expect them to treat the boat as if it were there
own. Don't throw stuff around, don't break stuff and they are
expected to "clean up" the boat after the race. After you have been
racing awhile your good crewmates will know other people who are
interested when you need someone to fill in or replace someone who is
leaving. Keep it fun. Never sail back to the dock in a bad mood
because you didn't do well.

I forgot to mention. My motto has always been "There are no cash
prizes" In other words missing out on a trophy or plaque ain't worth
getting ****ed off about. On Ringmaster we like to win but we try to
keep it casual. Seems to work. Between 2 boats I have 32 plaques on
the wall plus a few other little cups etc.