"Bart" wrote
It will boil a cup of water in less than a minute
and two cups in a couple of minutes. It
works so well because it has a heat exchanger
built into the base of the mug. I use it for soup
and tea.

http://jetboil.com/

They also sell a hanging kit I thought would
work well hanging from a boom bail. Rather
than buy that I plan to make my own--if I
ever feel the need.


Would that also work inside from a bracket, like the little "sea-
swing" stoves? Those also work well and are compact.

"Capt. JG" wrote:
Or, you could just heat up some hearty soop and put it in a thermos.


And if you're out long enough that you either run out of soup, or it
gets cold in the thermos.... or you want to heat up something else
like coffee... you're SOL.

A thermos flask is very handy but it does not take the place of a
stove on a small cruising vessel.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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"Bart" wrote
It will boil a cup of water in less than a minute
and two cups in a couple of minutes. It
works so well because it has a heat exchanger
built into the base of the mug. I use it for soup
and tea.

http://jetboil.com/

They also sell a hanging kit I thought would
work well hanging from a boom bail. Rather
than buy that I plan to make my own--if I
ever feel the need.


Would that also work inside from a bracket, like the little "sea-
swing" stoves? Those also work well and are compact.

"Capt. JG" wrote:
Or, you could just heat up some hearty soop and put it in a thermos.


And if you're out long enough that you either run out of soup, or it
gets cold in the thermos.... or you want to heat up something else
like coffee... you're SOL.

A thermos flask is very handy but it does not take the place of a
stove on a small cruising vessel.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King



A daysailor needs a stove?


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A thermos flask is very handy but it does not take the place of a
stove on a small cruising vessel.



"Capt. JG" wrote:
A daysailor needs a stove?


Some do.

If it's a "daysailor" that is likely to be sailed for long hours, in
chilly weather, and/or for more hours and/or with more crew than a
Thermos is likely to take care of.

Please note I said "small cruising vessel."

One factor to bear in mind is that you can warm up the cabin/cuddy
with a small stove, and warm up your hands with it... not something
you can do with a Thermos.... especially an empty one....

DSK

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A thermos flask is very handy but it does not take the place of a
stove on a small cruising vessel.



"Capt. JG" wrote:
A daysailor needs a stove?


Some do.

If it's a "daysailor" that is likely to be sailed for long hours, in
chilly weather, and/or for more hours and/or with more crew than a
Thermos is likely to take care of.

Please note I said "small cruising vessel."

One factor to bear in mind is that you can warm up the cabin/cuddy
with a small stove, and warm up your hands with it... not something
you can do with a Thermos.... especially an empty one....

DSK



All true, but I'm not a big fan of open flames on a small, tippy boat. You
can use reusable hand-warmers and layers to stay warm. You can have multiple
thermos. You can have energy bars. My last choice would be something I can
knock over that's on fire. :-) The jetboil doesn't look very stable....


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www.sailnow.com

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:42:56 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote this crap:

All true, but I'm not a big fan of open flames on a small, tippy boat. You
can use reusable hand-warmers and layers to stay warm. You can have multiple
thermos. You can have energy bars. My last choice would be something I can
knock over that's on fire. :-) The jetboil doesn't look very stable....


Wuss. A real man would start a fire in hell.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

"Capt. JG" wrote:
All true, but I'm not a big fan of open flames on a small, tippy boat.

Wimp.
What about open flames on a BIG tippy boat?

.... You
can use reusable hand-warmers and layers to stay warm.

And if you're still freakin' cold?

Besides, those hand-warmers don't work.

You can have multiple
thermos.

You can, as long as you remember what's in each one. And they still
cool off in a few hours or run out. Not a replacement for a proper
stove.

You can have energy bars.

Those things are fattening.

My last choice would be something I can
knock over that's on fire. :-)

Mine too. That's why I said "a small cruising boat should have a
proper stove."

I have cruised with a fixed wick-type alcohol stove, and a swing-mount
camp style stove. Both can be good and can't be replaced *for
cruising* ....or unintentionally extended daysails in poor conditions
IMHO... by power bars, skier's hand-warmers, or a thermos. Although
any of the latter would be better than nothing.

DSK

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"Capt. JG" wrote:
All true, but I'm not a big fan of open flames on a small, tippy boat.

Wimp.
What about open flames on a BIG tippy boat?

Heh... I have yet to fire up my Origo
..

.... You
can use reusable hand-warmers and layers to stay warm.

And if you're still freakin' cold?

Besides, those hand-warmers don't work.

I have some that work fine... I forget the brand.. you bend a small piece of
metal in a liquid gel, and they get hot. You boil them to reset them.


You can have multiple
thermos.

You can, as long as you remember what's in each one. And they still
cool off in a few hours or run out. Not a replacement for a proper
stove.

We're talkin labelling...

You can have energy bars.

Those things are fattening.

Fat is good when you're trying to stay warm!

My last choice would be something I can
knock over that's on fire. :-)

Mine too. That's why I said "a small cruising boat should have a
proper stove."

I have cruised with a fixed wick-type alcohol stove, and a swing-mount
camp style stove. Both can be good and can't be replaced *for
cruising* ....or unintentionally extended daysails in poor conditions
IMHO... by power bars, skier's hand-warmers, or a thermos. Although
any of the latter would be better than nothing.

DSK




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www.sailnow.com

Besides, those hand-warmers don't work.



I have some that work fine... I forget the brand.. you bend a small piece of
metal in a liquid gel, and they get hot. You boil them to reset them.


The ones I know about either burn the crap out of you for 2 minutes
and then get cold, or they only get luke warm in the first place.

How long do these ones stay warm, and if it's more than an hour, tell
me the name please.



You can have energy bars.

Those things are fattening.

Fat is good when you're trying to stay warm!


True
But you have to start getting stoked up well ahead of time.... like at
least a few months....

DSK

On Sep 23, 9:42 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
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A thermos flask is very handy but it does not take the place of a
stove on a small cruising vessel.

"Capt. JG" wrote:
A daysailor needs a stove?

Some do.

If it's a "daysailor" that is likely to be sailed for long hours, in
chilly weather, and/or for more hours and/or with more crew than a
Thermos is likely to take care of.

Please note I said "small cruising vessel."

One factor to bear in mind is that you can warm up the cabin/cuddy
with a small stove, and warm up your hands with it... not something
you can do with a Thermos.... especially an empty one....

DSK

All true, but I'm not a big fan of open flames on a small, tippy boat. You
can use reusable hand-warmers and layers to stay warm. You can have multiple
thermos. You can have energy bars. My last choice would be something I can
knock over that's on fire. :-) The jetboil doesn't look very stable....

--
"j" ganz

Good point Jon. I've been using protein bars all
year and run out of my favorite kind. They work
great, and store well. No need for a stove at all.

hand warmer? that's what a wench is for.





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A thermos flask is very handy but it does not take the
place of a
stove on a small cruising vessel.



"Capt. JG" wrote:
A daysailor needs a stove?


Some do.

If it's a "daysailor" that is likely to be sailed for long
hours, in
chilly weather, and/or for more hours and/or with more
crew than a
Thermos is likely to take care of.

Please note I said "small cruising vessel."

One factor to bear in mind is that you can warm up the
cabin/cuddy
with a small stove, and warm up your hands with it... not
something
you can do with a Thermos.... especially an empty one....

DSK