Actually, the under water shape isn't that bad,



Yeah, just what every sailor wants; a underwater profile that "isn't
that bad."
Case closed!


Nonsuch 36: Not that bad!


RB
35s5
NY

Capt. Rob wrote:
Actually, the under water shape isn't that bad,



Yeah, just what every sailor wants; a underwater profile that "isn't
that bad."
Case closed!


Nonsuch 36: Not that bad!

Yeah, Not that bad, as in good enough to beat a 35s5!



RB
35s5 - almost as fast as a Nonsuch
NY

Yeah, Not that bad, as in good enough to beat a 35s5!



It might beat a 35s5, just like my 35s5 might beat a J120.

Uh huh.

Nonsuch: When 8 knots is just too fast!



RB
35s5
NY

Capt. Rob wrote:
Yeah, Not that bad, as in good enough to beat a 35s5!



It might beat a 35s5, just like my 35s5 might beat a J120.

Especially since, as you claim, its so hard for a 35s5 skipper to sail
up to the 138 rating!


Uh huh.

Nonsuch: Beating the Benny's in comfort and style!



RB
35s5 - it might not be fast but its tippy!
NY

Especially since, as you claim, its so hard for a 35s5 skipper to
sail
up to the 138 rating!



Jeff, this is yet another one of your lies and I'll prove it.
I said that the 35s5 has trouble sailing to it's rating, which is
typically 114 to 129. I rarely see 132 and once saw 138, but don't
know what was up with those higher number boats. The standard rating
for my boat is 129 and it's tough to hit for many sailors.
In my area, according to the link I provided, the 35s5 was just
dropped from 129 to 126.

It's on the link I gave.

Sorry.

Nonsuch: The Motorsailor's Sailboat.



RB
35s5
NY

BWAHAHAHA!!! You snap at every lame troll! And the funny thing is,
everything I said is true!


Capt. Rob wrote:
Especially since, as you claim, its so hard for a 35s5 skipper to
sail
up to the 138 rating!



Jeff, this is yet another one of your lies and I'll prove it.
I said that the 35s5 has trouble sailing to it's rating, which is
typically 114 to 129. I rarely see 132 and once saw 138, but don't
know what was up with those higher number boats.

They are the ratings (base and adjusted) for the only 35s5 that races in
your area. Why is this so hard to understand?

I'll give you some help. If they fly a smaller jib (as you often do)
they can get +3 or +6 adjustment. If they carry less than the standard
crew (9 180 pounders) they could get an adjustment. Its pretty easy to
end up with a +9.

As I said, the Nonsuch base ratings are without spinnakers but against
spinnaker rated boats. If the Nonsuch carries a chute, its rating is
adjusted downward. This, BTW, is why NS ratings are so high.

The standard rating
for my boat is 129 and it's tough to hit for many sailors.

I'm sure its very hard for you! But all you're saying is that your real
rating should be much higher, perhaps higher than the Nonsuch!

In my area, according to the link I provided, the 35s5 was just
dropped from 129 to 126.

It's on the link I gave.

You mean the 4 year old, random page on a personal site? I links I
provided are the true YRA LIS ratings as of Aug 31, 2007.


Sorry.

Actually rather pathetic.


Nonsuch: The Motorsailor's Sailboat. But still fast enough to beat a benny.



RB
35s5
NY

I'm sure its very hard for you! But all you're saying is that your
real
rating should be much higher, perhaps higher than the Nonsuch!


Hey, anything's possible with PHRF and I sure don't put much stock in
it. The best way to see what's what is to sail with another boat and
see how fast it is. I have a LOT of friends with boats, so it's easy
to see how my boat does against various designs. That big Freedom I
posted a pic of (The big cat-ketch) flew right by us AND the Nonsuch
36. I have no problem with a boat being "faster" than ours like poor
Sloco is always worried about. Most 35 footers fall behind our boat
and she holds her own with a J30 or Santana 30/30. Then throw in the
comfort, fun factor, room above and below...and she's one of the
better choices if you can spend about 65K for a quick cruiser.
If I had ANY desire to race, it would never be on a 35s5, Express 30
or J30. I'd buy a J35 or J24 and race in class like a grown up.
For now...I wanna play.

PS. We passed the NS 36 under our main alone. Spoke to Dan at North
sails this morning and told him about it and how pleased we are with
the 35s5 when sailing her dinghy style. He said he used to do the same
with a first 345 and still pass a lot of boats with just one sail
flying.

Cheers!



RB
35s5
NY