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I pass Porsches and BMWs all the time in my truck.
I guess I have a really fast AND FUN truck, eh? That's right little Scotty Potty! Cars and sailboats are exactly the same! Good point. I knew we keep you around here for a reason! RB 35s5 NY |
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Capt. Rob wrote:
Sorry to bust your little bubble, booby. I'm sure that you pass lots of Nonsuch's that aren't paying any attention to you. I guess ALL of the boats we pass aren't paying attention. No one can sail them well it would appear. Sorry to burst your bubble, but we pass the Nonsuch boats all the time, so they must ALL be badly sailed according to you. The best part of this, not lost on a few folks for certain, is that hilarious fact that I've had Jeff defending to the poor turtlesque Nonsuch against my 35s5 sailing WITHOUT THE JIB!!!!!! Defending rather well, given that I showed that a Nonsuch 33 races in your waters with a rating only a few points higher than the only 35s5 that races in LIS. Most people here now appreciate that a Nonsuch could probably beat your boat pretty easily, especially if you're at the helm. Here's the current list of LIS PHRF racers: http://yralis.org/070831-valid-certs.pdf Search on "Breathless" to find the only 35s5, a fin keel boat (wing would be +3) that races at 138. Search on "Skylark" for the NS 33 that races at 147. That makes all of your ranting sound like the bull**** it is! |
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Sigh. The sad part is, he's not just ignoring my point, he
doesn't see it. SBV "Capt. **** Head" wrote in message ups.com... I pass Porsches and BMWs all the time in my truck. I guess I have a really fast AND FUN truck, eh? That's right little Scotty Potty! Cars and sailboats are exactly the same! Good point. I knew we keep you around here for a reason! RB 35s5 NY |
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SMACKDOWN !!!!!
"jeff" wrote in message . .. Capt. Rob wrote: Sorry to bust your little bubble, booby. I'm sure that you pass lots of Nonsuch's that aren't paying any attention to you. I guess ALL of the boats we pass aren't paying attention. No one can sail them well it would appear. Sorry to burst your bubble, but we pass the Nonsuch boats all the time, so they must ALL be badly sailed according to you. The best part of this, not lost on a few folks for certain, is that hilarious fact that I've had Jeff defending to the poor turtlesque Nonsuch against my 35s5 sailing WITHOUT THE JIB!!!!!! Defending rather well, given that I showed that a Nonsuch 33 races in your waters with a rating only a few points higher than the only 35s5 that races in LIS. Most people here now appreciate that a Nonsuch could probably beat your boat pretty easily, especially if you're at the helm. Here's the current list of LIS PHRF racers: http://yralis.org/070831-valid-certs.pdf Search on "Breathless" to find the only 35s5, a fin keel boat (wing would be +3) that races at 138. Search on "Skylark" for the NS 33 that races at 147. That makes all of your ranting sound like the bull**** it is! |
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Here's the current list of LIS PHRF racers:
http://yralis.org/070831-valid-certs.pdf And here's the list that reflects average ratings across the country: http://www.pipeline.com/~wayneb/phrflis.htm#j The typical rating given to the 35s5 is 129 for WK/SR. Last year it was lowered to 126, but I don't know why. Google 35s5 WK PHRF and the most common number is 129. Now do Nonsuch 36 PHRF and almost everything is 156. Get over it, Jeff. It's not a racer and needs MUCHO air to get off it's ass. No NS 36 has been even close to the speed of the 35s5, Jeff. Sorry. Like I said, I guess all of the Nonsuch vessels we see are badly sailed, since they are always pretty slow unless it's blowing hard! You are really crazy. My 35s5 carries 371 sq. feet of main and 302 sq feet of headsail and weighs 3 TONS less than the tubby nonsuch. In the real world, Jeff...which you should visit, the boats are not close at all. The 35s5 trounces boats like the Nonsuch and has fun doing it! But I've enjoyed the "idea" that a Nonsuch is faster or as fast as a J30, which is a bit slower than my boat! I oughta know since a J30 owner sails on my boat often and along with it. He must not know how to sail either. That's your only answer, Jeff....no one can sail! RB 35s5 NY |
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Capt. Rob wrote:
Here's the current list of LIS PHRF racers: http://yralis.org/070831-valid-certs.pdf And here's the list that reflects average ratings across the country: Sorry Booby, just yesterday you were ranting about the ratings "in your area" and that ratings for others didn't count. So I found the relevant ratings and the most recent certificates from your local authority. The bottom line: the only 35s5 that races in your area rates 138 with the fin keel. A Nonsuch 33 races in the same division at 147 (I'm guessing his rating is because he flies a chute). If you add 3 points for your wing keel, 3 points for your A/C, and six points for your small jib, you rate 3 seconds slower than the Nonsuch! RB 35s5 - almost as fast as a Nonsuch NY |
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A Nonsuch 33 races in the same division at 147 (I'm guessing
his rating is because he flies a chute). If you add 3 points for your wing keel, 3 points for your A/C, and six points for your small jib, you rate 3 seconds slower than the Nonsuch! There are many 35s5's racing around the country, Jeff. Google them. We have no way of knowing why the 35s5 rates 138, which is way above average. On the other hand a rating of 147 is still going to get clobbered by our boat. No amount of sail is going to make up a 3 ton liability between two boats of this type, 3 tons and the Nonsuch carries only a bit more sail area, has more wetted surface and isn't shaped for speed at all. Get over it. Jeff. I'm off for some sailing on a J24 now...another boat that passes Nonsuch 36's in a lot of situations. Enjoy a great weather day! RB 35s5 NY |
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Sorry Booby, just yesterday you were ranting about the ratings "in
your area" and that ratings for others didn't count. In MOST areas, the 35s5 WK rates 129. In MOST areas the Nonsuch rates 156. Now you found the exceptions and want to make it the rule. Doesn't work that way, Jeff. And as I said, YRA of the LIS rates my boat at 126, a tough rating to sail to unless my boat was in perfect tune and crewed by very seasoned people. If I wanted to race in something as childish as PHRF, I'd rather race aboard a Catalina 30 or Pearson 33, boats that can be sailed to their ratings by an average group. My trolls, my rules! Nonsuch: When getting there first is second, better late than never aboard a Nonsuch 36! PDQ: When the beauty and romance of sailing has been replaced by brittle bones and liver spots, it's time for the PDQ experience! BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!!! My last post until tonight, Jeff....gotta run for a sail with Thomas on a J. He's gonna love it! RB 35s5 NY |
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Capt. Rob wrote:
Sorry Booby, just yesterday you were ranting about the ratings "in your area" and that ratings for others didn't count. In MOST areas, the 35s5 WK rates 129. In MOST areas the Nonsuch rates 156. Now you found the exceptions and want to make it the rule. Doesn't work that way, Jeff. Yes, it does work that way. I was willing to use the national ratings and you kept insisting that in your area the NS rates higher. You made the "rules" and now they bit you in the ass! And as I said, YRA of the LIS rates my boat at 126, a tough rating to sail to unless my boat was in perfect tune and crewed by very seasoned people. I repeat, the only 35s5 with a LIS certificate races at 138. Just a few seconds faster than a NS33! RB 35s5 - Almost as fast as a Nonsuch! NY |
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Jeff wrote: The 35s5 rates 129, and the 35s5 W is 132. Oddly, the
only 35s5 racing has an adjusted rating is 138 (mainly weight adjustment), so a wing keel version with the same adjustment would race at 141 Oh my god! The Boob is down for the count. His designer yacht rates the same as my "lowly" "old" Express 30. But the funny thing is I've never been past by the PHRF 'C' fleet that started 5 minutes behind me. I guess the 35s5 needs another rating adjustment. 35s5: The boat with the Boob's configuration rates the same as an Express 30. BAAWWWWAAAAAA |
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