scbafreak via BoatKB.com wrote:
Or, god forbid, he's actually being honest unlike Cheney who wasn't born
with that ability.


U'm not a particular fan of either GW or Cheney so it doens't make any
difference to me...or for that matter, Bill Clinton..I'm gonna jump on the
Ralph Nader bandwagon...

Well, that really was just a vote for the Bushco crowd last time.



No it was a vote for Nader. What is with Democrats saying that they didn't
so much lose to Bush as get screwed bby Nader. If the Dems could have gotten
a good strong candidate then they would have won the election. Instead they
choose these non-threatening kind of wussy little guys. Americans don't like
that. Americans like tough guys. As much of an Environmentalist as I am I
could not bring myself to vote for Kerry. He is too much of a giant "V" for
me. I don't think I am alone in this thinking. Democrats like that sort of
guy and so I will never be a Democrat.

What we really need to do is ditch the 2 party system...I say go back to
a Parliament...with a Prime minister rather than a President...gets rid
of the whole popular vite vs electoral college vote dillema and makes it
so that other opinions can be heard in government..also allows for the
common man to have a chance to stand for his cimmunity...we'd have to
ditch the House of Lords concept and keep the Senate intact but change
the way the House functions..

What we really need to do is ditch the 2 party system...

katy as much as I dissagree with your other points of view I am right here
with you on this one. I hate politicians mostly because they have the
current system so well rigged that anybody that has enough brains, moral
integrity and the guts to do anything right will never get elected. We need
some sort of a political revolution to get things back on track and into the
hands of the American people again.

Bill

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"katy" wrote in message
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scbafreak via BoatKB.com wrote:
Or, god forbid, he's actually being honest unlike Cheney who wasn't
born with that ability.


U'm not a particular fan of either GW or Cheney so it doens't make any
difference to me...or for that matter, Bill Clinton..I'm gonna jump on
the Ralph Nader bandwagon...

Well, that really was just a vote for the Bushco crowd last time.



No it was a vote for Nader. What is with Democrats saying that they
didn't
so much lose to Bush as get screwed bby Nader. If the Dems could have
gotten
a good strong candidate then they would have won the election. Instead
they
choose these non-threatening kind of wussy little guys. Americans don't
like
that. Americans like tough guys. As much of an Environmentalist as I am
I
could not bring myself to vote for Kerry. He is too much of a giant "V"
for
me. I don't think I am alone in this thinking. Democrats like that sort
of
guy and so I will never be a Democrat.

What we really need to do is ditch the 2 party system...I say go back to a
Parliament...with a Prime minister rather than a President...gets rid of
the whole popular vite vs electoral college vote dillema and makes it so
that other opinions can be heard in government..also allows for the common
man to have a chance to stand for his cimmunity...we'd have to ditch the
House of Lords concept and keep the Senate intact but change the way the
House functions..


I don't think I like this idea... you're right about the 2-party system...
we just need reasonable 3rd party candidates... Nader wasn't one, and in my
opinion it was a throw-away vote. I don't know if it would have made a
difference in the last pres. election, but it didn't help and look who we
got. I voted for Kerry/Edwards, but was never highly impressed with Kerry.
The lesser of two evils was my reasoning. However, now we have a chance to
vote for Hillary or McCain. I don't think Obama is quite ready yet...
another 8 years, then.... g


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www.sailnow.com

Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

scbafreak via BoatKB.com wrote:

Or, god forbid, he's actually being honest unlike Cheney who wasn't
born with that ability.


U'm not a particular fan of either GW or Cheney so it doens't make any
difference to me...or for that matter, Bill Clinton..I'm gonna jump on
the Ralph Nader bandwagon...

Well, that really was just a vote for the Bushco crowd last time.



No it was a vote for Nader. What is with Democrats saying that they
didn't
so much lose to Bush as get screwed bby Nader. If the Dems could have
gotten
a good strong candidate then they would have won the election. Instead
they
choose these non-threatening kind of wussy little guys. Americans don't
like
that. Americans like tough guys. As much of an Environmentalist as I am
I
could not bring myself to vote for Kerry. He is too much of a giant "V"
for
me. I don't think I am alone in this thinking. Democrats like that sort
of
guy and so I will never be a Democrat.


What we really need to do is ditch the 2 party system...I say go back to a
Parliament...with a Prime minister rather than a President...gets rid of
the whole popular vite vs electoral college vote dillema and makes it so
that other opinions can be heard in government..also allows for the common
man to have a chance to stand for his cimmunity...we'd have to ditch the
House of Lords concept and keep the Senate intact but change the way the
House functions..



I don't think I like this idea... you're right about the 2-party system...
we just need reasonable 3rd party candidates... Nader wasn't one, and in my
opinion it was a throw-away vote. I don't know if it would have made a
difference in the last pres. election, but it didn't help and look who we
got. I voted for Kerry/Edwards, but was never highly impressed with Kerry.
The lesser of two evils was my reasoning. However, now we have a chance to
vote for Hillary or McCain. I don't think Obama is quite ready yet...
another 8 years, then.... g


I don't like McCain..he'a an angry person and tires to rule by
intimidation...I do like Giuliani...if you can make sense out of that
hash called New York, you can make sewnse out of almost anything...as
much as I would like to see a woman in the WHite House, as President and
not as bed wench, Hillary just deosn't do it for me...I like listening
to er and think she is an intelligent person and on the private sector,
if we met I would probably like her..i do not like her politics,
though...I liked Joe Lieberman before they made a mess of him but this
country would never vote for a Jew for President...and at this point,
that would just inflame the Arabs to the point of total
uncontrol...Edwards is too much in the hands of money...the guy I really
liked won't run...Mark Warner...

"katy" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

scbafreak via BoatKB.com wrote:

Or, god forbid, he's actually being honest unlike Cheney who wasn't
born with that ability.


U'm not a particular fan of either GW or Cheney so it doens't make any
difference to me...or for that matter, Bill Clinton..I'm gonna jump on
the Ralph Nader bandwagon...

Well, that really was just a vote for the Bushco crowd last time.



No it was a vote for Nader. What is with Democrats saying that they
didn't
so much lose to Bush as get screwed bby Nader. If the Dems could have
gotten
a good strong candidate then they would have won the election. Instead
they
choose these non-threatening kind of wussy little guys. Americans don't
like
that. Americans like tough guys. As much of an Environmentalist as I
am I
could not bring myself to vote for Kerry. He is too much of a giant "V"
for
me. I don't think I am alone in this thinking. Democrats like that
sort of
guy and so I will never be a Democrat.


What we really need to do is ditch the 2 party system...I say go back to
a Parliament...with a Prime minister rather than a President...gets rid
of the whole popular vite vs electoral college vote dillema and makes it
so that other opinions can be heard in government..also allows for the
common man to have a chance to stand for his cimmunity...we'd have to
ditch the House of Lords concept and keep the Senate intact but change
the way the House functions..



I don't think I like this idea... you're right about the 2-party
system... we just need reasonable 3rd party candidates... Nader wasn't
one, and in my opinion it was a throw-away vote. I don't know if it would
have made a difference in the last pres. election, but it didn't help and
look who we got. I voted for Kerry/Edwards, but was never highly
impressed with Kerry. The lesser of two evils was my reasoning. However,
now we have a chance to vote for Hillary or McCain. I don't think Obama
is quite ready yet... another 8 years, then.... g


I don't like McCain..he'a an angry person and tires to rule by
intimidation...I do like Giuliani...if you can make sense out of that hash
called New York, you can make sewnse out of almost anything...as much as I
would like to see a woman in the WHite House, as President and not as bed
wench, Hillary just deosn't do it for me...I like listening to er and
think she is an intelligent person and on the private sector, if we met I
would probably like her..i do not like her politics, though...I liked Joe
Lieberman before they made a mess of him but this country would never vote
for a Jew for President...and at this point, that would just inflame the
Arabs to the point of total uncontrol...Edwards is too much in the hands
of money...the guy I really liked won't run...Mark Warner...


She's very middle of the road these days and very pro-military.

I never liked Liberman, and I thought Gore made a mistake picking him as a
running mate. He's too much of a follower in his politics.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Capt. JG wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
...


scbafreak via BoatKB.com wrote:


Or, god forbid, he's actually being honest unlike Cheney who wasn't
born with that ability.


U'm not a particular fan of either GW or Cheney so it doens't make any
difference to me...or for that matter, Bill Clinton..I'm gonna jump on
the Ralph Nader bandwagon...

Well, that really was just a vote for the Bushco crowd last time.



No it was a vote for Nader. What is with Democrats saying that they
didn't
so much lose to Bush as get screwed bby Nader. If the Dems could have
gotten
a good strong candidate then they would have won the election. Instead
they
choose these non-threatening kind of wussy little guys. Americans don't
like
that. Americans like tough guys. As much of an Environmentalist as I
am I
could not bring myself to vote for Kerry. He is too much of a giant "V"
for
me. I don't think I am alone in this thinking. Democrats like that
sort of
guy and so I will never be a Democrat.


What we really need to do is ditch the 2 party system...I say go back to
a Parliament...with a Prime minister rather than a President...gets rid
of the whole popular vite vs electoral college vote dillema and makes it
so that other opinions can be heard in government..also allows for the
common man to have a chance to stand for his cimmunity...we'd have to
ditch the House of Lords concept and keep the Senate intact but change
the way the House functions..



I don't think I like this idea... you're right about the 2-party
system... we just need reasonable 3rd party candidates... Nader wasn't
one, and in my opinion it was a throw-away vote. I don't know if it would
have made a difference in the last pres. election, but it didn't help and
look who we got. I voted for Kerry/Edwards, but was never highly
impressed with Kerry. The lesser of two evils was my reasoning. However,
now we have a chance to vote for Hillary or McCain. I don't think Obama
is quite ready yet... another 8 years, then.... g


I don't like McCain..he'a an angry person and tires to rule by
intimidation...I do like Giuliani...if you can make sense out of that hash
called New York, you can make sewnse out of almost anything...as much as I
would like to see a woman in the WHite House, as President and not as bed
wench, Hillary just deosn't do it for me...I like listening to er and
think she is an intelligent person and on the private sector, if we met I
would probably like her..i do not like her politics, though...I liked Joe
Lieberman before they made a mess of him but this country would never vote
for a Jew for President...and at this point, that would just inflame the
Arabs to the point of total uncontrol...Edwards is too much in the hands
of money...the guy I really liked won't run...Mark Warner...



She's very middle of the road these days and very pro-military.

I never liked Liberman, and I thought Gore made a mistake picking him as a
running mate. He's too much of a follower in his politics.

"these days"...that's my problem with her..she waffles...

"katy" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Capt. JG wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
...


scbafreak via BoatKB.com wrote:


Or, god forbid, he's actually being honest unlike Cheney who wasn't
born with that ability.


U'm not a particular fan of either GW or Cheney so it doens't make
any difference to me...or for that matter, Bill Clinton..I'm gonna
jump on the Ralph Nader bandwagon...

Well, that really was just a vote for the Bushco crowd last time.



No it was a vote for Nader. What is with Democrats saying that they
didn't
so much lose to Bush as get screwed bby Nader. If the Dems could have
gotten
a good strong candidate then they would have won the election.
Instead they
choose these non-threatening kind of wussy little guys. Americans
don't like
that. Americans like tough guys. As much of an Environmentalist as I
am I
could not bring myself to vote for Kerry. He is too much of a giant
"V" for
me. I don't think I am alone in this thinking. Democrats like that
sort of
guy and so I will never be a Democrat.


What we really need to do is ditch the 2 party system...I say go back
to a Parliament...with a Prime minister rather than a President...gets
rid of the whole popular vite vs electoral college vote dillema and
makes it so that other opinions can be heard in government..also allows
for the common man to have a chance to stand for his cimmunity...we'd
have to ditch the House of Lords concept and keep the Senate intact but
change the way the House functions..



I don't think I like this idea... you're right about the 2-party
system... we just need reasonable 3rd party candidates... Nader wasn't
one, and in my opinion it was a throw-away vote. I don't know if it
would have made a difference in the last pres. election, but it didn't
help and look who we got. I voted for Kerry/Edwards, but was never
highly impressed with Kerry. The lesser of two evils was my reasoning.
However, now we have a chance to vote for Hillary or McCain. I don't
think Obama is quite ready yet... another 8 years, then.... g


I don't like McCain..he'a an angry person and tires to rule by
intimidation...I do like Giuliani...if you can make sense out of that
hash called New York, you can make sewnse out of almost anything...as
much as I would like to see a woman in the WHite House, as President and
not as bed wench, Hillary just deosn't do it for me...I like listening to
er and think she is an intelligent person and on the private sector, if
we met I would probably like her..i do not like her politics, though...I
liked Joe Lieberman before they made a mess of him but this country would
never vote for a Jew for President...and at this point, that would just
inflame the Arabs to the point of total uncontrol...Edwards is too much
in the hands of money...the guy I really liked won't run...Mark Warner...



She's very middle of the road these days and very pro-military.

I never liked Liberman, and I thought Gore made a mistake picking him as
a running mate. He's too much of a follower in his politics.

"these days"...that's my problem with her..she waffles...


As opposed to Bush? As opposed to Lieberman who ran on Gore's liberal
ticket? Almost all politicians waffle.


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www.sailnow.com

Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Capt. JG wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
...


Capt. JG wrote:


"katy" wrote in message
...



scbafreak via BoatKB.com wrote:



Or, god forbid, he's actually being honest unlike Cheney who wasn't
born with that ability.


U'm not a particular fan of either GW or Cheney so it doens't make
any difference to me...or for that matter, Bill Clinton..I'm gonna
jump on the Ralph Nader bandwagon...

Well, that really was just a vote for the Bushco crowd last time.



No it was a vote for Nader. What is with Democrats saying that they
didn't
so much lose to Bush as get screwed bby Nader. If the Dems could have
gotten
a good strong candidate then they would have won the election.
Instead they
choose these non-threatening kind of wussy little guys. Americans
don't like
that. Americans like tough guys. As much of an Environmentalist as I
am I
could not bring myself to vote for Kerry. He is too much of a giant
"V" for
me. I don't think I am alone in this thinking. Democrats like that
sort of
guy and so I will never be a Democrat.


What we really need to do is ditch the 2 party system...I say go back
to a Parliament...with a Prime minister rather than a President...gets
rid of the whole popular vite vs electoral college vote dillema and
makes it so that other opinions can be heard in government..also allows
for the common man to have a chance to stand for his cimmunity...we'd
have to ditch the House of Lords concept and keep the Senate intact but
change the way the House functions..



I don't think I like this idea... you're right about the 2-party
system... we just need reasonable 3rd party candidates... Nader wasn't
one, and in my opinion it was a throw-away vote. I don't know if it
would have made a difference in the last pres. election, but it didn't
help and look who we got. I voted for Kerry/Edwards, but was never
highly impressed with Kerry. The lesser of two evils was my reasoning.
However, now we have a chance to vote for Hillary or McCain. I don't
think Obama is quite ready yet... another 8 years, then.... g


I don't like McCain..he'a an angry person and tires to rule by
intimidation...I do like Giuliani...if you can make sense out of that
hash called New York, you can make sewnse out of almost anything...as
much as I would like to see a woman in the WHite House, as President and
not as bed wench, Hillary just deosn't do it for me...I like listening to
er and think she is an intelligent person and on the private sector, if
we met I would probably like her..i do not like her politics, though...I
liked Joe Lieberman before they made a mess of him but this country would
never vote for a Jew for President...and at this point, that would just
inflame the Arabs to the point of total uncontrol...Edwards is too much
in the hands of money...the guy I really liked won't run...Mark Warner...



She's very middle of the road these days and very pro-military.

I never liked Liberman, and I thought Gore made a mistake picking him as
a running mate. He's too much of a follower in his politics.


"these days"...that's my problem with her..she waffles...



As opposed to Bush? As opposed to Lieberman who ran on Gore's liberal
ticket? Almost all politicians waffle.


Like I've said before, I am not a fan of GW Bish...Gore needed
Liebermann on his ticket becasue he (Gore) is so liberal that moderate
Dems needed something to convince them of the ticket...it wasn't enough
and look what happened..Gore is way, way too liberal....

"katy" wrote in message
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as much as I would like to see a woman in the WHite House, as President
and not as bed wench, Hillary just deosn't do it for me

Ellen Macarthur for President !!!

(Too bad "she's" not a woman.)

Max

Maxprop wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...


as much as I would like to see a woman in the WHite House, as President
and not as bed wench, Hillary just deosn't do it for me


Ellen Macarthur for President !!!

(Too bad "she's" not a woman.)

Max



You been eating eyedrops or something?