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Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?

By Timothy Ball
Monday, February 5, 2007

Global Warming, as we think we know it, doesn't exist. And I am not the only one trying to
make people open up their eyes and see the truth. But few listen, despite the fact that I was
the first Canadian Ph.D. in Climatology and I have an extensive background in climatology,
especially the reconstruction of past climates and the impact of climate change on human
history and the human condition."Few listen, even though I have a Ph.D, (Doctor of Science)
from the University of London, England and was a climatology professor at the University of
Winnipeg." . For some reason (actually for many), the World is not listening. Here is why.

What would happen if tomorrow we were told that, after all, the Earth is flat? It would
probably be the most important piece of news in the media and would generate a lot of debate.
So why is it that when scientists who have studied the Global Warming phenomenon for years
say that humans are not the cause nobody listens? Why does no one acknowledge that the
Emperor has no clothes on?

Believe it or not, Global Warming is not due to human contribution of Carbon Dioxide (CO2).
This in fact is the greatest deception in the history of science. We are wasting time, energy
and trillions of dollars while creating unnecessary fear and consternation over an issue with
no scientific justification. For example, Environment Canada brags about spending $3.7 billion
in the last five years dealing with climate change almost all on propaganda trying to defend an
indefensible scientific position while at the same time closing weather stations and failing to
meet legislated pollution targets.

No sensible person seeks conflict, especially with governments, but if we don't pursue the
truth, we are lost as individuals and as a society. That is why I insist on saying that there is no
evidence that we are, or could ever cause global climate change. And, recently, Yuri A. Izrael,
Vice President of the United Nations sponsored Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
(IPCC) confirmed this statement. So how has the world come to believe that something is wrong?

Maybe for the same reason we believed, 30 years ago, that global cooling was the biggest threat:
a matter of faith. "It is a cold fact: the Global Cooling presents humankind with the most important
social, political, and adaptive challenge we have had to deal with for ten thousand years. Your
stake in the decisions we make concerning it is of ultimate importance; the survival of ourselves,
our children, our species," wrote Lowell Ponte in 1976.

I was as opposed to the threats of impending doom global cooling engendered as I am to the threats
made about Global Warming. Let me stress I am not denying the phenomenon has occurred. The
world has warmed since 1680, the nadir of a cool period called the Little Ice Age (LIA) that has
generally continued to the present. These climate changes are well within natural variability and
explained quite easily by changes in the sun. But there is nothing unusual going on.

Since I obtained my doctorate in climatology from the University of London, Queen Mary College,
England my career has spanned two climate cycles. Temperatures declined from 1940 to 1980 and
in the early 1970's global cooling became the consensus. This proves that consensus is not a scientific
fact. By the 1990's temperatures appeared to have reversed and Global Warming became the consensus.
It appears I'll witness another cycle before retiring, as the major mechanisms and the global
temperature trends now indicate a cooling.

No doubt passive acceptance yields less stress, fewer personal attacks and makes career progress
easier. What I have experienced in my personal life during the last years makes me understand why
most people choose not to speak out; job security and fear of reprisals. Even in University, where
free speech and challenge to prevailing wisdoms are supposedly encouraged, academics remain silent.

I once received a three page letter that my lawyer defined as libellous, from an academic colleague,
saying I had no right to say what I was saying, especially in public lectures. Sadly, my experience is
that universities are the most dogmatic and oppressive places in our society. This becomes progressively
worse as they receive more and more funding from governments that demand a particular viewpoint.

In another instance, I was accused by Canadian environmentalist David Suzuki of being paid by oil
companies. That is a lie. Apparently he thinks if the fossil fuel companies pay you have an agenda.
So if Greenpeace, Sierra Club or governments pay there is no agenda and only truth and enlightenment?
Personal attacks are difficult and shouldn't occur in a debate in a civilized society. I can only consider
them from what they imply. They usually indicate a person or group is losing the debate. In this case,
they also indicate how political the entire Global Warming debate has become. Both underline the lack
of or even contradictory nature of the evidence.

I am not alone in this journey against the prevalent myth. Several well-known names have also raised
their voices. Michael Crichton, the scientist, writer and filmmaker is one of them. In his latest book,
"State of Fear" he takes time to explain, often in surprising detail, the flawed science behind Global
Warming and other imagined environmental crises. Another cry in the wildenerness is Richard Lindzen's.
He is an atmospheric physicist and a professor of meteorology at MIT, renowned for his research in
dynamic meteorology - especially atmospheric waves. He is also a member of the National Academy of
Sciences and has held positions at the University of Chicago, Harvard University and MIT. Linzen
frequently speaks out against the notion that significant Global Warming is caused by humans. Yet
nobody seems to listen.

I think it may be because most people don't understand the scientific method which Thomas Kuhn so
skilfully and briefly set out in his book "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions." A scientist makes
certain assumptions and then produces a theory which is only as valid as the assumptions. The theory
of Global Warming assumes that CO2 is an atmospheric greenhouse gas and as it increases temperatures
rise. It was then theorized that since humans were producing more CO2 than before, the temperature
would inevitably rise. The theory was accepted before testing had started, and effectively became a law.

As Lindzen said many years ago: "the consensus was reached before the research had even begun."
Now, any scientist who dares to question the prevailing wisdom is marginalized and called a sceptic,
when in fact they are simply being good scientists. This has reached frightening levels with these
scientists now being called climate change denier with all the holocaust connotations of that word.
The normal scientific method is effectively being thwarted.

Meanwhile, politicians are being listened to, even though most of them have no knowledge or
understanding of science, especially the science of climate and climate change. Hence, they are
in no position to question a policy on climate change when it threatens the entire planet. Moreover,
using fear and creating hysteria makes it very difficult to make calm rational decisions about issues
needing attention.

Until you have challenged the prevailing wisdom you have no idea how nasty people can be. Until
you have re-examined any issue in an attempt to find out all the information, you cannot know how
much misinformation exists in the supposed age of information. I was greatly influenced several
years ago by Aaron Wildavsky's book "Yes, but is it true?" The author taught political science at a
New York University and realized how science was being influenced by and apparently misused by
politics. He gave his graduate students an assignment to pursue the science behind a policy generated
by a highly publicised environmental concern. To his and their surprise they found there was little
scientific evidence, consensus and justification for the policy. You only realize the extent to which
Wildavsky's findings occur when you ask the question he posed. Wildavsky's students did it in the
safety of academia and with the excuse that it was an assignment. I have learned it is a difficult
question to ask in the real world, however I firmly believe it is the most important question to ask
if we are to advance in the right direction.

_________________________________________________

Dr. Tim Ball, Chairman of the Natural Resources Stewardship Project (www.nrsp.com), is a
Victoria-based environmental consultant and former climatology professor at the University of
Winnipeg. He can be reached at


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Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?

By Timothy Ball
Monday, February 5, 2007

Global Warming, as we think we know it, doesn't exist. And I am not the
only one trying to


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question to ask in the real world, however I firmly believe it is the most
important question to ask
if we are to advance in the right direction.

_________________________________________________

Dr. Tim Ball, Chairman of the Natural Resources Stewardship Project
(www.nrsp.com), is a
Victoria-based environmental consultant and former climatology professor
at the University of
Winnipeg. He can be reached at


The only thing that is absolute about global warming is that it is making
some folks rich. The leaders of anti-greenhouse gas organizations, the
scientists gobbling up federal grant money for research on gw, guys like Al
Gore, who write and publish books on the subject and get movies made based
upon their books, etc., are making money way faster than the Earth's
temperature is rising.

Global warming = big bucks.

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Are you gonna listen to LSD 10X popping flashback people like Capt. JG
or scientests with real
credentials? Like this guy?

Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?

By Timothy Ball
Monday, February 5, 2007

Global Warming, as we think we know it, doesn't exist. And I am not the
only one trying to



monster clip

question to ask in the real world, however I firmly believe it is the most
important question to ask
if we are to advance in the right direction.

_________________________________________________

Dr. Tim Ball, Chairman of the Natural Resources Stewardship Project
(www.nrsp.com), is a
Victoria-based environmental consultant and former climatology professor
at the University of
Winnipeg. He can be reached at



The only thing that is absolute about global warming is that it is making
some folks rich. The leaders of anti-greenhouse gas organizations, the
scientists gobbling up federal grant money for research on gw, guys like Al
Gore, who write and publish books on the subject and get movies made based
upon their books, etc., are making money way faster than the Earth's
temperature is rising.

Global warming = big bucks.

Max


All boils down to politics is big bucks...akin to what's going on in
Texas with the mandatory inoculation of little girls with an agent that
is just recently on the market and hasn't been tested by time yet. ANd
then we find that the press secretary or whatever of the governor of TX
is a former lobbyist for Merck Labs, which produces the vaccine a the
cost of hundreds per girl....politicians and science are like oil and
water...they should be kept in separate containers...
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Are you gonna listen to LSD 10X popping flashback people like Capt.
JG or scientests with real
credentials? Like this guy?

Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?

By Timothy Ball
Monday, February 5, 2007

Global Warming, as we think we know it, doesn't exist. And I am not the
only one trying to



monster clip

question to ask in the real world, however I firmly believe it is the
most important question to ask
if we are to advance in the right direction.

_________________________________________________

Dr. Tim Ball, Chairman of the Natural Resources Stewardship Project
(www.nrsp.com), is a
Victoria-based environmental consultant and former climatology professor
at the University of
Winnipeg. He can be reached at



The only thing that is absolute about global warming is that it is making
some folks rich. The leaders of anti-greenhouse gas organizations, the
scientists gobbling up federal grant money for research on gw, guys like
Al Gore, who write and publish books on the subject and get movies made
based upon their books, etc., are making money way faster than the
Earth's temperature is rising.

Global warming = big bucks.

Max

All boils down to politics is big bucks...akin to what's going on in Texas
with the mandatory inoculation of little girls with an agent that is just
recently on the market and hasn't been tested by time yet. ANd then we
find that the press secretary or whatever of the governor of TX is a
former lobbyist for Merck Labs, which produces the vaccine a the cost of
hundreds per girl....politicians and science are like oil and water...they
should be kept in separate containers...



My understanding is that parents can opt their daughters out if they decide
it is either morally objectionable or against their religion. So, what's
wrong with the requirement to have young girls vaccinated against a deadly
disease?

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Are you gonna listen to LSD 10X popping flashback people like Capt.
JG or scientests with real
credentials? Like this guy?

Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?

By Timothy Ball
Monday, February 5, 2007

Global Warming, as we think we know it, doesn't exist. And I am not the
only one trying to


monster clip

question to ask in the real world, however I firmly believe it is the
most important question to ask
if we are to advance in the right direction.

_________________________________________________

Dr. Tim Ball, Chairman of the Natural Resources Stewardship Project
(www.nrsp.com), is a
Victoria-based environmental consultant and former climatology professor
at the University of
Winnipeg. He can be reached at


The only thing that is absolute about global warming is that it is making
some folks rich. The leaders of anti-greenhouse gas organizations, the
scientists gobbling up federal grant money for research on gw, guys like
Al Gore, who write and publish books on the subject and get movies made
based upon their books, etc., are making money way faster than the
Earth's temperature is rising.

Global warming = big bucks.

Max


All boils down to politics is big bucks...akin to what's going on in Texas
with the mandatory inoculation of little girls with an agent that is just
recently on the market and hasn't been tested by time yet. ANd then we
find that the press secretary or whatever of the governor of TX is a
former lobbyist for Merck Labs, which produces the vaccine a the cost of
hundreds per girl....politicians and science are like oil and water...they
should be kept in separate containers...




My understanding is that parents can opt their daughters out if they decide
it is either morally objectionable or against their religion. So, what's
wrong with the requirement to have young girls vaccinated against a deadly
disease?

The vaccine is unproven. You don't remember thalidomide? We are still
investigating the possibilities that MMR vaccines are respinsible for
the rise in autism. And once again, we're talking about legislation
about a sexualy transmitted condition. No sex...no cancer. Ny the time
the current crop of 11-15 year old are 18, there will be some time to
sit back and see what the actual results are from those who vilunteer to
take the risk.


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Are you gonna listen to LSD 10X popping flashback people like Capt.
JG or scientests with real
credentials? Like this guy?

Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?

By Timothy Ball
Monday, February 5, 2007

Global Warming, as we think we know it, doesn't exist. And I am not the
only one trying to


monster clip

question to ask in the real world, however I firmly believe it is the
most important question to ask
if we are to advance in the right direction.

_________________________________________________

Dr. Tim Ball, Chairman of the Natural Resources Stewardship Project
(www.nrsp.com), is a
Victoria-based environmental consultant and former climatology
professor at the University of
Winnipeg. He can be reached at


The only thing that is absolute about global warming is that it is
making some folks rich. The leaders of anti-greenhouse gas
organizations, the scientists gobbling up federal grant money for
research on gw, guys like Al Gore, who write and publish books on the
subject and get movies made based upon their books, etc., are making
money way faster than the Earth's temperature is rising.

Global warming = big bucks.

Max

All boils down to politics is big bucks...akin to what's going on in
Texas with the mandatory inoculation of little girls with an agent that
is just recently on the market and hasn't been tested by time yet. ANd
then we find that the press secretary or whatever of the governor of TX
is a former lobbyist for Merck Labs, which produces the vaccine a the
cost of hundreds per girl....politicians and science are like oil and
water...they should be kept in separate containers...




My understanding is that parents can opt their daughters out if they
decide it is either morally objectionable or against their religion. So,
what's wrong with the requirement to have young girls vaccinated against
a deadly disease?

The vaccine is unproven. You don't remember thalidomide? We are still
investigating the possibilities that MMR vaccines are respinsible for the
rise in autism. And once again, we're talking about legislation about a
sexualy transmitted condition. No sex...no cancer. Ny the time the
current crop of 11-15 year old are 18, there will be some time to sit back
and see what the actual results are from those who vilunteer to take the
risk.



Actually, the vaccine is well-proven from what I've read, and it will save
lives. The argument that it'll promote underage sexual behavior is a scare
tactic used by the religious right.


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Are you gonna listen to LSD 10X popping flashback people like Capt.
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credentials? Like this guy?


Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?


By Timothy Ball
Monday, February 5, 2007


Global Warming, as we think we know it, doesn't exist. And I am not the
only one trying to


monster clip


question to ask in the real world, however I firmly believe it is the
most important question to ask
if we are to advance in the right direction.


_________________________________________________


Dr. Tim Ball, Chairman of the Natural Resources Stewardship Project
(www.nrsp.com), is a
Victoria-based environmental consultant and former climatology professor
at the University of
Winnipeg. He can be reached at


The only thing that is absolute about global warming is that it is making
some folks rich. The leaders of anti-greenhouse gas organizations, the
scientists gobbling up federal grant money for research on gw, guys like
Al Gore, who write and publish books on the subject and get movies made
based upon their books, etc., are making money way faster than the
Earth's temperature is rising.


Global warming = big bucks.


Max

All boils down to politics is big bucks...akin to what's going on in Texas
with the mandatory inoculation of little girls with an agent that is just
recently on the market and hasn't been tested by time yet. ANd then we
find that the press secretary or whatever of the governor of TX is a
former lobbyist for Merck Labs, which produces the vaccine a the cost of
hundreds per girl....politicians and science are like oil and water...they
should be kept in separate containers...


My understanding is that parents can opt their daughters out if they decide
it is either morally objectionable or against their religion. So, what's
wrong with the requirement to have young girls vaccinated against a deadly
disease?

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Nothing's wrong if it's a proven drug, whats wrong is our gov is going
to get rich with kickbacks.
Remeber that gov vaccination that cause all the kids with little arms
and legs?

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Are you gonna listen to LSD 10X popping flashback people like Capt.
JG or scientests with real
credentials? Like this guy?


Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?


By Timothy Ball
Monday, February 5, 2007


Global Warming, as we think we know it, doesn't exist. And I am not the
only one trying to


monster clip


question to ask in the real world, however I firmly believe it is the
most important question to ask
if we are to advance in the right direction.


_________________________________________________


Dr. Tim Ball, Chairman of the Natural Resources Stewardship Project
(www.nrsp.com), is a
Victoria-based environmental consultant and former climatology professor
at the University of
Winnipeg. He can be reached at


The only thing that is absolute about global warming is that it is making
some folks rich. The leaders of anti-greenhouse gas organizations, the
scientists gobbling up federal grant money for research on gw, guys like
Al Gore, who write and publish books on the subject and get movies made
based upon their books, etc., are making money way faster than the
Earth's temperature is rising.


Global warming = big bucks.


Max

All boils down to politics is big bucks...akin to what's going on in Texas
with the mandatory inoculation of little girls with an agent that is just
recently on the market and hasn't been tested by time yet. ANd then we
find that the press secretary or whatever of the governor of TX is a
former lobbyist for Merck Labs, which produces the vaccine a the cost of
hundreds per girl....politicians and science are like oil and water...they
should be kept in separate containers...


My understanding is that parents can opt their daughters out if they decide
it is either morally objectionable or against their religion. So, what's
wrong with the requirement to have young girls vaccinated against a deadly
disease?

--
"j" ganz - Hide quoted text -

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Nothing's wrong if it's a proven drug, whats wrong is our gov is going
to get rich with kickbacks.
Remeber that gov vaccination that cause all the kids with little arms
and legs?

Joe

\im...Joe...that was thalidomide....already been metioned...twice, I
believe...drug was supposed to stop miscarriage...sure did...
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Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?


By Timothy Ball
Monday, February 5, 2007


Global Warming, as we think we know it, doesn't exist. And I am not
the
only one trying to


monster clip


question to ask in the real world, however I firmly believe it is the
most important question to ask
if we are to advance in the right direction.


_________________________________________________


Dr. Tim Ball, Chairman of the Natural Resources Stewardship Project
(www.nrsp.com), is a
Victoria-based environmental consultant and former climatology
professor
at the University of
Winnipeg. He can be reached at


The only thing that is absolute about global warming is that it is
making
some folks rich. The leaders of anti-greenhouse gas organizations,
the
scientists gobbling up federal grant money for research on gw, guys
like
Al Gore, who write and publish books on the subject and get movies
made
based upon their books, etc., are making money way faster than the
Earth's temperature is rising.


Global warming = big bucks.


Max
All boils down to politics is big bucks...akin to what's going on in
Texas
with the mandatory inoculation of little girls with an agent that is
just
recently on the market and hasn't been tested by time yet. ANd then we
find that the press secretary or whatever of the governor of TX is a
former lobbyist for Merck Labs, which produces the vaccine a the cost
of
hundreds per girl....politicians and science are like oil and
water...they
should be kept in separate containers...


My understanding is that parents can opt their daughters out if they
decide
it is either morally objectionable or against their religion. So, what's
wrong with the requirement to have young girls vaccinated against a
deadly
disease?

--
"j" ganz - Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



Nothing's wrong if it's a proven drug, whats wrong is our gov is going
to get rich with kickbacks.
Remeber that gov vaccination that cause all the kids with little arms
and legs?

Joe



I don't think anyone except the usual suspects are going to get rich. It's
the right thing to do, and parents have a way to avoid it if they truly want
to.

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Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?

By Timothy Ball
Monday, February 5, 2007

Global Warming, as we think we know it, doesn't exist. And I am not the
only one trying to


monster clip

question to ask in the real world, however I firmly believe it is the
most important question to ask
if we are to advance in the right direction.

_________________________________________________

Dr. Tim Ball, Chairman of the Natural Resources Stewardship Project
(www.nrsp.com), is a
Victoria-based environmental consultant and former climatology professor
at the University of
Winnipeg. He can be reached at


The only thing that is absolute about global warming is that it is making
some folks rich. The leaders of anti-greenhouse gas organizations, the
scientists gobbling up federal grant money for research on gw, guys like
Al Gore, who write and publish books on the subject and get movies made
based upon their books, etc., are making money way faster than the Earth's
temperature is rising.

Global warming = big bucks.

Max



Global environmental change for the worse is happening because human beings
are so shortsighted as to ignore their own long-term best interests.

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