"katy" wrote in message
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Neither was the polio vaccine, but it saved countless lives. The fact
is that there exists things like rape and incest, which has nothing to
do with abstinence:

http://www.paralumun.com/issuesrapestats.htm

In part...

Somewhere in America, a woman is raped every 2 minutes, according to
the U.S. Department of Justice.
In 1995, 354,670 women were the victims of a rape or sexual assault.
(NationalCrime Victimization Survey. Bureau of Justice Statistics,
U.S. Department of Justice, 1996.)
Over the last two years, more than 787,000 women were the victim of a
rape or sexual assault. (National Crime Victimization Survey. Bureau
of Justice Statistics, U.S.Department of Justice, 1996.)
The FBI estimates that 72 of every 100,000 females in the United
States wereraped last year. (Federal Bureau of Investigation, Uniform
Crime Statistics, 1996.)



That's a weak argument to convinve anyone they should vaccinate
themselves with something that hasn't withstood the test of time...like
I said, we still haven't figured out the possible causation of autism
from the MMR vaccine yet and that's been well over 20 years...it's also
a well known medical fact that people who live negative paranoid lives,
worrying and stress filled, are candidates for cancer...so let's make
some more paranoia for tjem so they contract it for sure...let's tell
them all they'll get cancer if they are raped! Let's hav ewomen worry
more that they may be raped...God, this world is really becoming a very
pathetic depressing place...I prefer to live my life thinking positive
thank you...



The polio vaccine is a weak argument? Rape stats are a week argument?

As far as MMR goes, there is absolutely no evidence that it causes
autism. This has been looked at over and over.

And hasn't been decided conclusively...my sister inlaw teaches autitic
kids...we have two autistic kids in the fa,ily and my other sister is a
foster care mother with 2 auristic kids...believe me, they all know what
the research going on is... that book is by no means closed...


There is no such thing as "conclusively" when it comes to anything. The
tobaco companies are still using that argument.
Your sister is, I'm sure, a fine person, but anecdotal evidence isn't
worth much.


Not anecdotal at all...she is a specially trained advocate...and has
researched the issues herself as has my SIL who holds a Master's Degree in
Education specifically of the Autistic...or are you saying that someone
with an MA isn't capable of reading research, looking at their own
personal experiences in the field and fa,ily and drawing conclusions?
http://www.vaccineinfo.net/immunizat...ismstudy.shtml


Firstly, you didn't cite any study in your original post. You said your
sisterin inlaw had an ancedotal experience. Secondly, if you read the link,
you'll see that the relationship under study is looking at the mothers
who've had the MMR, not the kids who are autistic.

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Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:


"katy" wrote in message
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Neither was the polio vaccine, but it saved countless lives. The fact
is that there exists things like rape and incest, which has nothing to
do with abstinence:

http://www.paralumun.com/issuesrapestats.htm

In part...

Somewhere in America, a woman is raped every 2 minutes, according to
the U.S. Department of Justice.
In 1995, 354,670 women were the victims of a rape or sexual assault.
(NationalCrime Victimization Survey. Bureau of Justice Statistics,
U.S. Department of Justice, 1996.)
Over the last two years, more than 787,000 women were the victim of a
rape or sexual assault. (National Crime Victimization Survey. Bureau
of Justice Statistics, U.S.Department of Justice, 1996.)
The FBI estimates that 72 of every 100,000 females in the United
States wereraped last year. (Federal Bureau of Investigation, Uniform
Crime Statistics, 1996.)



That's a weak argument to convinve anyone they should vaccinate
themselves with something that hasn't withstood the test of time...like
I said, we still haven't figured out the possible causation of autism

from the MMR vaccine yet and that's been well over 20 years...it's also

a well known medical fact that people who live negative paranoid lives,
worrying and stress filled, are candidates for cancer...so let's make
some more paranoia for tjem so they contract it for sure...let's tell
them all they'll get cancer if they are raped! Let's hav ewomen worry
more that they may be raped...God, this world is really becoming a very
pathetic depressing place...I prefer to live my life thinking positive
thank you...



The polio vaccine is a weak argument? Rape stats are a week argument?

As far as MMR goes, there is absolutely no evidence that it causes
autism. This has been looked at over and over.

And hasn't been decided conclusively...my sister inlaw teaches autitic
kids...we have two autistic kids in the fa,ily and my other sister is a
foster care mother with 2 auristic kids...believe me, they all know what
the research going on is... that book is by no means closed...


There is no such thing as "conclusively" when it comes to anything. The
tobaco companies are still using that argument.
Your sister is, I'm sure, a fine person, but anecdotal evidence isn't
worth much.


Not anecdotal at all...she is a specially trained advocate...and has
researched the issues herself as has my SIL who holds a Master's Degree in
Education specifically of the Autistic...or are you saying that someone
with an MA isn't capable of reading research, looking at their own
personal experiences in the field and fa,ily and drawing conclusions?
http://www.vaccineinfo.net/immunizat...ismstudy.shtml



Firstly, you didn't cite any study in your original post. You said your
sisterin inlaw had an ancedotal experience. Secondly, if you read the link,
you'll see that the relationship under study is looking at the mothers
who've had the MMR, not the kids who are autistic.

As Nellen would asay...dug...and that isn't a co sideration here? That
these girls may down the line pass soemthing on? I don't like arguing so
I'm done with this...for every source you can pull out of the bin, I can
find an equal and opposing source...it's a no win situation..so bye...by
the way, don't you ever work at work?

"katy" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:


"katy" wrote in message
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Neither was the polio vaccine, but it saved countless lives. The
fact is that there exists things like rape and incest, which has
nothing to do with abstinence:

http://www.paralumun.com/issuesrapestats.htm

In part...

Somewhere in America, a woman is raped every 2 minutes, according to
the U.S. Department of Justice.
In 1995, 354,670 women were the victims of a rape or sexual assault.
(NationalCrime Victimization Survey. Bureau of Justice Statistics,
U.S. Department of Justice, 1996.)
Over the last two years, more than 787,000 women were the victim of
a rape or sexual assault. (National Crime Victimization Survey.
Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S.Department of Justice, 1996.)
The FBI estimates that 72 of every 100,000 females in the United
States wereraped last year. (Federal Bureau of Investigation,
Uniform Crime Statistics, 1996.)



That's a weak argument to convinve anyone they should vaccinate
themselves with something that hasn't withstood the test of
time...like I said, we still haven't figured out the possible
causation of autism

from the MMR vaccine yet and that's been well over 20 years...it's
also

a well known medical fact that people who live negative paranoid
lives, worrying and stress filled, are candidates for cancer...so
let's make some more paranoia for tjem so they contract it for
sure...let's tell them all they'll get cancer if they are raped!
Let's hav ewomen worry more that they may be raped...God, this world
is really becoming a very pathetic depressing place...I prefer to
live my life thinking positive thank you...



The polio vaccine is a weak argument? Rape stats are a week argument?

As far as MMR goes, there is absolutely no evidence that it causes
autism. This has been looked at over and over.

And hasn't been decided conclusively...my sister inlaw teaches autitic
kids...we have two autistic kids in the fa,ily and my other sister is a
foster care mother with 2 auristic kids...believe me, they all know
what the research going on is... that book is by no means closed...


There is no such thing as "conclusively" when it comes to anything. The
tobaco companies are still using that argument.
Your sister is, I'm sure, a fine person, but anecdotal evidence isn't
worth much.


Not anecdotal at all...she is a specially trained advocate...and has
researched the issues herself as has my SIL who holds a Master's Degree
in Education specifically of the Autistic...or are you saying that
someone with an MA isn't capable of reading research, looking at their
own personal experiences in the field and fa,ily and drawing conclusions?
http://www.vaccineinfo.net/immunizat...ismstudy.shtml



Firstly, you didn't cite any study in your original post. You said your
sisterin inlaw had an ancedotal experience. Secondly, if you read the
link, you'll see that the relationship under study is looking at the
mothers who've had the MMR, not the kids who are autistic.

As Nellen would asay...dug...and that isn't a co sideration here? That
these girls may down the line pass soemthing on? I don't like arguing so
I'm done with this...for every source you can pull out of the bin, I can
find an equal and opposing source...it's a no win situation..so bye...by
the way, don't you ever work at work?


I'm able to work at work at home or on the boat this week.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com