Mowe Z. Slowley wrote:
: Steve Leyland wrote:
:: Mowe Z. Slowley wrote:
::: Steve Leyland wrote:
:
: snip
:
::::
:::: "I am researching with the owner of the newsgroup" shows just
:::: exactly how ****ing clueless this admin is. everywon knows only
:::: fluffy pwns a froup!!!1!
:::::
:::
::: No No! that's me, Mr Steve.
::
:: ah I see, oh dear. don't waste yer time doing that mate.
:::
::: I'm trying to ask the folks who sponsor the froup if they think I
::: violated the charter.
::
:: what ****ing charter? a.s.a has no charter according to the official
:: isc.org site, that's just an FAQ quoted by the lying abusive serial
:: netKKKop.
:: hey, I'll post a new FAQ for asa right now,a lot
::
:: TEH NEW OFFICIAL ALT.SAILING.ASA FAQ AS APPROVED BY FLUFFY.
:: Q: why is this group being attacked by so many trolls?
:: A: because frivolous net-abusing control-freak netKKKops like JG can
:: kiss my hairy meower arse.
:: This FAQ supercedes all previous incarnations, bite me.
::
:: there ya go. that's the latest FAQ. get teh drift?
:::
::: I'll be the first to admit I'm knowing practically nothing about the
::: structure and superstructures of usenet.
::
:: I've been hanging in alt.config and various admin froups for many
:: years and I'm very familiar with suchlike ...
:::
::: Got any references you think I should familiarize myself with?
::
:: http://www.killfile.org/~tskirvin/faqs/spam.html might be a good
:: place to quote to your ISP to give them some usenet clue, not that
:: I'm too enamoured with tim recently.
:::
:
: Thanks.
: I think I've got of learning to do.

not quite as much as yer ISP though, seemingly.
:
: You can bet that I won't let this ISP off the hook here in
: explaining this abuse notice in terms of logic or diligence.
:
: They will need to show veracity of the charters' convention
: authority for whatever source they choose to use.

they'll have a huge job doing that since they're quoting an FAQ, not a
charter.
you should also persuade them to complain to the netKKKop's ISP for
sending fraudulent and unfounded abuse reports and to give you a year's
free access to compensate for your stress and inconvenience.
:
: You are telling me that there is no authoritative clearing house for
: group charters as such?

precisely. at least not in the alt.* hierarchy.

: Isn't there a central, 'physical'
: fileserver somewhere for any given group? A machine that someone has
: to sponsor and host and 'pay' for; even assuming these tasks are
: contracted out to agents?

ftp://ftp.isc.org/pub/usenet/control...p-name-here.gz
any newgroup control message is stored there automagically once it is
sent.
the only charter that counts is the first one.

--
Steve Leyland
mhm32x16 Smeeter#24 WSD#41
Alcatroll Labs Inc (bongwater maintenance dept)

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"I went to the Garden of Love, And saw what I never had seen;
A Chapel was built in the midst,
Where I used to play on the green.

And the gates of this Chapel were shut
And "Thou shalt not," writ over the door;
So I turned to the Garden of Love
That so many sweet flowers bore.

And I saw it was filled with graves,
And tombstones where flowers should be;
And priests in black gowns were walking their rounds,
And binding with briars my joys and desires."

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