Sent to:


with a cc to:


text as follows:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Thank you for your attention to this issue.

The original complaint was about the posting "terror free gas
stations" in the newsgroup "alt.sailing.asa" which was established
"as a forum for the exchange of ideas by people who share an
interest in the sport and lifestyle of sailing.". Full charter in
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sports/sailing/asa/.

The complainant feels that the posting "has the effect of disrupting
the alt.sailing.asa Usenet newsgroup."


Sincerely,

Juni, Internet Abuse Team Member
Consumer Customer Operations
TELUS Communications
Email:
http://www.telus.com/internetabuse - Internet Abuse FAQ
http://www.mytelus.com/internet/policies/TISAA.do - TELUS Internet
Services Account Agreement
http://www.mytelus.com/internet/policies/display.do - Acceptable Use
Policy


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
so jeffery then asks the folks who own this group....
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Dear Sir or Madam:

http://www.american-sailing.com/alt.....asa./FAQ.html

Can you tell me if you still host the above document?

The link provided at
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sports/sailing/asa/
is no longer functional.

I am having a problem with my ISP after a complaint was made by an
anonymous poster to this newsgroup.

I have never had a complaint filed about me before in the context of
usenet, and I am concerned about my IPS's response to this
apparently spurious complaint.

I am apparently in danger of loosing my service merely as a result
of 11 inadvertent cross-posts when responding a couple threads
started by some friends of mine. There was no promotion or abusive
behavior involved in any of these posts.

As far as I can understand my ISP's concerns, I am being victimized
expressly and solely for a small number of inadvertent innocuous
cross posts to an alt usenet group. Is this possible or even legal?

and:

I am researching with the owner of the newsgroup in question as to
whether they feel a breach of their charter has been committed.

You shall have a forward of this inquiry in your inbox.

This additional missive is specifically addressed to the TELUS
Internet Abuse Team for the purpose of eliciting an explicit
clarification which has been avoided so far, to wit:

How, _exactly_, has my behavior violated the TELUS IUP?

I need to know this specific and simple bit of information for the
purpose of evaluating my continued use of TELUS services. Internet
service is the last service provided to me by TELUS which I
value enough to keep an account open at all.

If my internet service is being arbitrarily threatened by the
"feelings" of an anonymous member of an one tiny newsgroup (as you
have stated below) --who does not have moderator or _any_ control
status on that group, as explicitly stated in the charter
provided--; then it follows that the security of my internet
connection is at the mercy of any kook on usenet who chooses to send
a barrage of complaints from one or more identities.

If this scenario is accurate, it constitutes an unacceptable risk to
my continued service, and I shall be forced to seek service
elsewhere. This chain of events has the potential to place
liabilities on TELUS internet services.

Please, I beg of you:

Clarify exactly how I have violated the TELUS IUP.


yours: mowzy slowly into the sunset

wadathink guys?

I showed them a glint of my razor hovering near their sac...

--
Stop WW3!!

"Remember: Only YOU can prevent Forest Fires!"
....Smokey the Bear

"Mowe Z. Slowley" wrote in message
news:PWvwh.28811$Y6.23372@edtnps89...
and:

I am researching with the owner of the newsgroup in question as to
whether they feel a breach of their charter has been committed.

You shall have a forward of this inquiry in your inbox.

This additional missive is specifically addressed to the TELUS
Internet Abuse Team for the purpose of eliciting an explicit
clarification which has been avoided so far, to wit:

How, _exactly_, has my behavior violated the TELUS IUP?

I need to know this specific and simple bit of information for the
purpose of evaluating my continued use of TELUS services. Internet
service is the last service provided to me by TELUS which I
value enough to keep an account open at all.

If my internet service is being arbitrarily threatened by the
"feelings" of an anonymous member of an one tiny newsgroup (as you
have stated below) --who does not have moderator or _any_ control
status on that group, as explicitly stated in the charter
provided--; then it follows that the security of my internet
connection is at the mercy of any kook on usenet who chooses to send
a barrage of complaints from one or more identities.

If this scenario is accurate, it constitutes an unacceptable risk to
my continued service, and I shall be forced to seek service
elsewhere. This chain of events has the potential to place
liabilities on TELUS internet services.

Please, I beg of you:

Clarify exactly how I have violated the TELUS IUP.


yours: mowzy slowly into the sunset

wadathink guys?

I showed them a glint of my razor hovering near their sac...

--
Stop WW3!!

"Remember: Only YOU can prevent Forest Fires!"
....Smokey the Bear

You may also note that the netkkkop is not even handed in his netkkkopping.
Others who responded in a cross posting fashion were apparently not
netkkkopped. You had the honor of being singled out by the netkkkopper. He
has the tools to filter by out cross posting, he is just harrassing you in
particular.

Ted's steakhouse serves an excellent Middle Eastern and Mediterrainean
Vegetarian Cuisine in addition to the finest of steaks and tin foil wrapped
potatoes. Several of our chefs are from Syria. Remember: Ted's of Beverly
Hills.

I'm Ted Bell!

On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 20:12:33 -0500, Ted Bell wrote
(in article ):

tin foil wrapped potatoes

I don't think there is anything worse than a tin wrapped potatoe. I had one
tonight with a rod threw it, which I baked at 400 for most of an hour. Crisp
hard skin and fluffy coked inside.

--
Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass

Mundo wrote:
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 20:12:33 -0500, Ted Bell wrote
(in article ):

tin foil wrapped potatoes

I don't think there is anything worse than a tin wrapped potatoe. I had one
tonight with a rod threw it, which I baked at 400 for most of an hour. Crisp
hard skin and fluffy coked inside.


and he lives on a 53 foot Monk today.

Beautiful boat with twin 6cyl Yanmars and radar.

He is upgrading everything to aviation standards from mere marine
protocols. ..Well, almost everything.

I gave him some night vision gear to help protect his sweet mahogany
hull from the logger's flotsam that abounds up here in our coastal
waters. He loves to navigate at nighttime. Our phosphorescent algae
are (is?) very bright and luminous.

--
Stop WW3!!

"Remember: Only YOU can prevent Forest Fires!"
....Smokey the Bear

Ted Bell wrote:
"Mowe Z. Slowley" wrote in message
news:PWvwh.28811$Y6.23372@edtnps89...
and:

I am researching with the owner of the newsgroup in question as to
whether they feel a breach of their charter has been committed.

You shall have a forward of this inquiry in your inbox.

This additional missive is specifically addressed to the TELUS
Internet Abuse Team for the purpose of eliciting an explicit
clarification which has been avoided so far, to wit:

How, _exactly_, has my behavior violated the TELUS IUP?

I need to know this specific and simple bit of information for the
purpose of evaluating my continued use of TELUS services. Internet
service is the last service provided to me by TELUS which I
value enough to keep an account open at all.

If my internet service is being arbitrarily threatened by the
"feelings" of an anonymous member of an one tiny newsgroup (as you
have stated below) --who does not have moderator or _any_ control
status on that group, as explicitly stated in the charter
provided--; then it follows that the security of my internet
connection is at the mercy of any kook on usenet who chooses to send
a barrage of complaints from one or more identities.

If this scenario is accurate, it constitutes an unacceptable risk to
my continued service, and I shall be forced to seek service
elsewhere. This chain of events has the potential to place
liabilities on TELUS internet services.

Please, I beg of you:

Clarify exactly how I have violated the TELUS IUP.

yours: mowzy slowly into the sunset
wadathink guys?

I showed them a glint of my razor hovering near their sac...

--
Stop WW3!!

"Remember: Only YOU can prevent Forest Fires!"
....Smokey the Bear

You may also note that the netkkkop is not even handed in his netkkkopping.
Others who responded in a cross posting fashion were apparently not
netkkkopped. You had the honor of being singled out by the netkkkopper. He
has the tools to filter by out cross posting, he is just harrassing you in
particular.

Ted's steakhouse serves an excellent Middle Eastern and Mediterrainean
Vegetarian Cuisine in addition to the finest of steaks and tin foil wrapped
potatoes. Several of our chefs are from Syria. Remember: Ted's of Beverly
Hills.

I'm Ted Bell!



Ted, you are beautiful.

I am so appreciative of your sensitivity as regards to
vegetarianism. You can bet that if I attend the valley, you will see
me at one of your tables.

Are you aware of the "Blue Ghost" squadron and it's history? My
brother was chief warrant officer and lead pilot for this heli
battlegroup in 'Naam. His nick was "Spook"...

--
Stop WW3!!

"Remember: Only YOU can prevent Forest Fires!"
....Smokey the Bear

"Mowe Z. Slowley" wrote in message
news:X5xwh.25077$Fd.17835@edtnps90...
Ted Bell wrote:
"Mowe Z. Slowley" wrote in message
news:PWvwh.28811$Y6.23372@edtnps89...
and:

I am researching with the owner of the newsgroup in question as to
whether they feel a breach of their charter has been committed.

You shall have a forward of this inquiry in your inbox.

This additional missive is specifically addressed to the TELUS
Internet Abuse Team for the purpose of eliciting an explicit
clarification which has been avoided so far, to wit:

How, _exactly_, has my behavior violated the TELUS IUP?

I need to know this specific and simple bit of information for the
purpose of evaluating my continued use of TELUS services. Internet
service is the last service provided to me by TELUS which I
value enough to keep an account open at all.

If my internet service is being arbitrarily threatened by the
"feelings" of an anonymous member of an one tiny newsgroup (as you
have stated below) --who does not have moderator or _any_ control
status on that group, as explicitly stated in the charter
provided--; then it follows that the security of my internet
connection is at the mercy of any kook on usenet who chooses to send
a barrage of complaints from one or more identities.

If this scenario is accurate, it constitutes an unacceptable risk to
my continued service, and I shall be forced to seek service
elsewhere. This chain of events has the potential to place
liabilities on TELUS internet services.

Please, I beg of you:

Clarify exactly how I have violated the TELUS IUP.

yours: mowzy slowly into the sunset
wadathink guys?

I showed them a glint of my razor hovering near their sac...

--
Stop WW3!!

"Remember: Only YOU can prevent Forest Fires!"
....Smokey the Bear

You may also note that the netkkkop is not even handed in his
netkkkopping.
Others who responded in a cross posting fashion were apparently not
netkkkopped. You had the honor of being singled out by the netkkkopper.
He
has the tools to filter by out cross posting, he is just harrassing you
in
particular.

Ted's steakhouse serves an excellent Middle Eastern and Mediterrainean
Vegetarian Cuisine in addition to the finest of steaks and tin foil
wrapped
potatoes. Several of our chefs are from Syria. Remember: Ted's of Beverly
Hills.

I'm Ted Bell!



Ted, you are beautiful.

I am so appreciative of your sensitivity as regards to
vegetarianism. You can bet that if I attend the valley, you will see
me at one of your tables.

Are you aware of the "Blue Ghost" squadron and it's history? My
brother was chief warrant officer and lead pilot for this heli
battlegroup in 'Naam. His nick was "Spook"...

--
Stop WW3!!

"Remember: Only YOU can prevent Forest Fires!"
....Smokey the Bear

Vegetarians are cool. Hard to find an obese one. Just look at some lard ass
grease slathered Texan and you know they are not a vegetarian. But you know
they are Republican. Michael Moore is not from Texas, nor is he a
Republican. But he is really fat.

I'm Ted Bell!

Ted Bell wrote:
"Mowe Z. Slowley" wrote in message
news:X5xwh.25077$Fd.17835@edtnps90...
Ted Bell wrote:
"Mowe Z. Slowley" wrote in message
news:PWvwh.28811$Y6.23372@edtnps89...
and:

I am researching with the owner of the newsgroup in question as to
whether they feel a breach of their charter has been committed.

You shall have a forward of this inquiry in your inbox.

This additional missive is specifically addressed to the TELUS
Internet Abuse Team for the purpose of eliciting an explicit
clarification which has been avoided so far, to wit:

How, _exactly_, has my behavior violated the TELUS IUP?

I need to know this specific and simple bit of information for the
purpose of evaluating my continued use of TELUS services. Internet
service is the last service provided to me by TELUS which I
value enough to keep an account open at all.

If my internet service is being arbitrarily threatened by the
"feelings" of an anonymous member of an one tiny newsgroup (as you
have stated below) --who does not have moderator or _any_ control
status on that group, as explicitly stated in the charter
provided--; then it follows that the security of my internet
connection is at the mercy of any kook on usenet who chooses to send
a barrage of complaints from one or more identities.

If this scenario is accurate, it constitutes an unacceptable risk to
my continued service, and I shall be forced to seek service
elsewhere. This chain of events has the potential to place
liabilities on TELUS internet services.

Please, I beg of you:

Clarify exactly how I have violated the TELUS IUP.

yours: mowzy slowly into the sunset
wadathink guys?

I showed them a glint of my razor hovering near their sac...

--
Stop WW3!!

"Remember: Only YOU can prevent Forest Fires!"
....Smokey the Bear
You may also note that the netkkkop is not even handed in his
netkkkopping.
Others who responded in a cross posting fashion were apparently not
netkkkopped. You had the honor of being singled out by the netkkkopper.
He
has the tools to filter by out cross posting, he is just harrassing you
in
particular.

Ted's steakhouse serves an excellent Middle Eastern and Mediterrainean
Vegetarian Cuisine in addition to the finest of steaks and tin foil
wrapped
potatoes. Several of our chefs are from Syria. Remember: Ted's of Beverly
Hills.

I'm Ted Bell!


Ted, you are beautiful.

I am so appreciative of your sensitivity as regards to
vegetarianism. You can bet that if I attend the valley, you will see
me at one of your tables.

Are you aware of the "Blue Ghost" squadron and it's history? My
brother was chief warrant officer and lead pilot for this heli
battlegroup in 'Naam. His nick was "Spook"...

--
Stop WW3!!

"Remember: Only YOU can prevent Forest Fires!"
....Smokey the Bear

Vegetarians are cool. Hard to find an obese one. Just look at some lard ass
grease slathered Texan and you know they are not a vegetarian. But you know
they are Republican. Michael Moore is not from Texas, nor is he a
Republican. But he is really fat.

I'm Ted Bell!



I'm Too Fat!

5'9" trying to get under 240lb

I've recently started to loose weight by radically reducing my carb
(read: starch) intake; seems to be working.

--
Stop WW3!!

"Remember: Only YOU can prevent Forest Fires!"
....Smokey the Bear

Ted Bell wrote:
: "Mowe Z. Slowley" wrote in message
: news:PWvwh.28811$Y6.23372@edtnps89...
:: and:
::
::: I am researching with the owner of the newsgroup in question as to
::: whether they feel a breach of their charter has been committed.
:::
::: You shall have a forward of this inquiry in your inbox.
:::
::: This additional missive is specifically addressed to the TELUS
::: Internet Abuse Team for the purpose of eliciting an explicit
::: clarification which has been avoided so far, to wit:
:::
::: How, _exactly_, has my behavior violated the TELUS IUP?
:::
::: I need to know this specific and simple bit of information for the
::: purpose of evaluating my continued use of TELUS services. Internet
::: service is the last service provided to me by TELUS which I
::: value enough to keep an account open at all.
:::
::: If my internet service is being arbitrarily threatened by the
::: "feelings" of an anonymous member of an one tiny newsgroup (as you
::: have stated below) --who does not have moderator or _any_ control
::: status on that group, as explicitly stated in the charter
::: provided--; then it follows that the security of my internet
::: connection is at the mercy of any kook on usenet who chooses to send
::: a barrage of complaints from one or more identities.
:::
::: If this scenario is accurate, it constitutes an unacceptable risk to
::: my continued service, and I shall be forced to seek service
::: elsewhere. This chain of events has the potential to place
::: liabilities on TELUS internet services.
:::
::: Please, I beg of you:
:::
::: Clarify exactly how I have violated the TELUS IUP.
:::
::
::: yours: mowzy slowly into the sunset
::
:: wadathink guys?
::
:: I showed them a glint of my razor hovering near their sac...
::
:: --
:: Stop WW3!!
::
:: "Remember: Only YOU can prevent Forest Fires!"
:: ....Smokey the Bear
:
: You may also note that the netkkkop is not even handed in his
: netkkkopping. Others who responded in a cross posting fashion were
: apparently not netkkkopped. You had the honor of being singled out by
: the netkkkopper. He has the tools to filter by out cross posting, he
: is just harrassing you in particular.

he's already tried and failed many times to netKKKop me and others.
when I find a serial netKKKopping ****head such as Jonathan Ganz, I
always alert all the NSP admins I know; you might be surprised how many
are friendly with meowers.

"I am researching with the owner of the newsgroup" shows just exactly
how ****ing clueless this admin is. everywon knows only fluffy pwns a
froup!!!1!
:
: Ted's steakhouse serves an excellent Middle Eastern and
: Mediterrainean Vegetarian Cuisine

sounds yummy

: in addition to the finest of steaks
: and tin foil wrapped potatoes. Several of our chefs are from Syria.
: Remember: Ted's of Beverly Hills.

:
: I'm Ted Bell!

--
Steve Leyland
mhm32x16 Smeeter#24 WSD#41
Alcatroll Labs Inc (bongwater maintenance dept)

=^MEOW MEOW ARMY^=

States are as the men, they grow out of human characters. - Plato
================================================== ====================
"Warning to all:
Steve Leyland is a trolling **** of the highest order. Killfile the
muppet now and move on. Even the briefest of searches on his past
UseNet posts will reveal the truth. You have been warned. *plonk*"
bear, uk.rec.motorcycles
================================================== ====================
"This sig is an abomination of all that is good and right about usenet.
Do the entire world a favor and REMOVE YOURSELF FROM USENET ALTOGETHER,
DUMBASS." miguel, soc.singles
================================================== ====================
"must you include your 75847548574893579345 gigabyte sig file in every
****ing post? You're very annoying." projectile vomit chick,
alt.music.ozzy
================================================== ====================
"I went to the Garden of Love, And saw what I never had seen;
A Chapel was built in the midst,
Where I used to play on the green.

And the gates of this Chapel were shut
And "Thou shalt not," writ over the door;
So I turned to the Garden of Love
That so many sweet flowers bore.

And I saw it was filled with graves,
And tombstones where flowers should be;
And priests in black gowns were walking their rounds,
And binding with briars my joys and desires."

William Blake.
================================================== ====================
"When the Earth has been ravaged and the animals are dying, a tribe of
people from all races, creeds and colours shall put their faith in
deeds, not words, and make the land green again. They shall be known as
Warriors of the Rainbow, protectors of the environment."

Native American prophecy


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Steve Leyland wrote:
Ted Bell wrote:
: "Mowe Z. Slowley" wrote in message
: news:PWvwh.28811$Y6.23372@edtnps89...
:: and:
::
::: I am researching with the owner of the newsgroup in question as to
::: whether they feel a breach of their charter has been committed.
:::
::: You shall have a forward of this inquiry in your inbox.
:::
::: This additional missive is specifically addressed to the TELUS
::: Internet Abuse Team for the purpose of eliciting an explicit
::: clarification which has been avoided so far, to wit:
:::
::: How, _exactly_, has my behavior violated the TELUS IUP?
:::
::: I need to know this specific and simple bit of information for the
::: purpose of evaluating my continued use of TELUS services. Internet
::: service is the last service provided to me by TELUS which I
::: value enough to keep an account open at all.
:::
::: If my internet service is being arbitrarily threatened by the
::: "feelings" of an anonymous member of an one tiny newsgroup (as you
::: have stated below) --who does not have moderator or _any_ control
::: status on that group, as explicitly stated in the charter
::: provided--; then it follows that the security of my internet
::: connection is at the mercy of any kook on usenet who chooses to send
::: a barrage of complaints from one or more identities.
:::
::: If this scenario is accurate, it constitutes an unacceptable risk to
::: my continued service, and I shall be forced to seek service
::: elsewhere. This chain of events has the potential to place
::: liabilities on TELUS internet services.
:::
::: Please, I beg of you:
:::
::: Clarify exactly how I have violated the TELUS IUP.
:::
::
::: yours: mowzy slowly into the sunset
::
:: wadathink guys?
::
:: I showed them a glint of my razor hovering near their sac...
::
:: --
:: Stop WW3!!
::
:: "Remember: Only YOU can prevent Forest Fires!"
:: ....Smokey the Bear
:
: You may also note that the netkkkop is not even handed in his
: netkkkopping. Others who responded in a cross posting fashion were
: apparently not netkkkopped. You had the honor of being singled out by
: the netkkkopper. He has the tools to filter by out cross posting, he
: is just harrassing you in particular.

he's already tried and failed many times to netKKKop me and others.
when I find a serial netKKKopping ****head such as Jonathan Ganz, I
always alert all the NSP admins I know; you might be surprised how many
are friendly with meowers.

"I am researching with the owner of the newsgroup" shows just exactly
how ****ing clueless this admin is. everywon knows only fluffy pwns a
froup!!!1!
:

No No! that's me, Mr Steve.

I'm trying to ask the folks who sponsor the froup if they think I
violated the charter.

I'll be the first to admit I'm knowing practically nothing about the
structure and superstructures of usenet.

Got any references you think I should familiarize myself with?

I'm writing my LPIC's right now; but I need diversions from studies
too, although my MIDI gear provides a good outlet for that...

: Ted's steakhouse serves an excellent Middle Eastern and
: Mediterrainean Vegetarian Cuisine

sounds yummy

: in addition to the finest of steaks
: and tin foil wrapped potatoes. Several of our chefs are from Syria.
: Remember: Ted's of Beverly Hills.

:
: I'm Ted Bell!



--
Stop WW3!!

"Remember: Only YOU can prevent Forest Fires!"
....Smokey the Bear