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The Express 30 was built by nurses?


Worse than that...CANADIAN Nurses!


RB
35s5
NY

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Stop swallowing the bait, you moron!



--
"Swab Rob" wrote
The Express 30 was built by nurses?


Worse than that...CANADIAN Nurses!


RB
35s5
NY

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:45:51 -0600, "Reverend Crantz"
wrote:


"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
. ..

Despite the higher pay, the number of people going into nursing is
dropping rapidly.

Do you have anything to back that up?


Do you live in a cave in Afganistan? Buy a newspaper once in awhile.
This issue has not been kept secret.


Hint: It's been kept secret from you:

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04221/358031.stm

http://goldsea.com/Career/CWS5S/healthcare.html

http://www.rndemand.com/

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/453336

Dropping rapidly! Yet the number of nurses are increasing!

Krusty, you can do better. Facts and logic win every time.




We have reached the point now, where if the
hospitals all re-opened their nursing schools, there would not be
enough teachers to staff them.

Unless pay is raised and the bar lowered for teaching.


Incorrect, and in any event, hospitals are not going to re-open all of
those nursing schools. The stockholders won't allow it because it
lowers overall profits. Hospital stockholders don't care about
anything except their own wallets.

But what about private nursing schools, trade schools?

http://www.denverschoolofnursing.org/

Emily Griffith Opportunity School:

http://www.universities.com/On-Campu...ty_School.html

Nursing, cosmetolgy, phrenology and welding all under one roof!




Import nurses from Canada.


BRILLIANT


SMACKDOWN!!!


CWM

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Scotty wrote:
Joe wins!



What is ''canned water'' and carmel?

Water in sealed cans and caramel candy, the stuff inside milk duds

2400 kcal (10000 Kj) per package
High-energy value, ready to eat, non-thirst provoking
Small and lightweight
All natural ingredients, no preservatives
Tabletized and subpackaged for ease of rationing
U.S.C.G. approved, meets SOLAS 74/83, Bureau Veritas, CTA 09027/AO
BV/MCA
5-year shelf life

Joe

Scotty



"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...

Cabinboy Rob wrote:
Heart of Gold carries the best and most extensive gear.
Your boat can't
do better!

Wanna bet?

1) Full time registered nurse! (See, I already won!)

What if she is the one critically injured?

As we both are licenced MM masters we are both CPR and
first aid
certified.
Plus we both have fire fighting certification, and
tankerman
endorsements.

2) Coastal flare kit
Well duh, We carry red and white para flares. and 15
pistol flares and
two pistols.

3) Offshore flare kit

Sorta redundant, you going to use one or the other if
needed? We also
have 4 sets of Navy issue .25 cal. aviation type pencil
flares.

4) 3 throwable devices, two with lines.

we have 2 horse shoe dan bouys on lines, and a lifering,
not a cheap
small white one like you have on your stern. Also have a
monkey fist on
75ft of line, 12ga line heaving gun, 14 man inflateable
raft in hard
case, emergency fishing gear kit, water distillers, signal
mirrors, LED
flashlights, .38 snubnose colt, dye markers, EPIRB,
Sextant, compass,
sea anchor, canned water, carmel, solar blankets,
whistles, glow
sticks, knife.
5) 4 fire extinguishers

3 here.. one dry chem, one CO2. The engine room has an
auto halon
system.

6) 1 large first aid kit
Get suzy to get some morphine, rigs, stitching equip,
antibiotics.

7) 4 adult and 1 child safety harnesses

We have 2 adult harnesses. And one harness for working
aloft with a
dyna brake.

8) 3 Type 1 life jackets, 8 type 2 and 4 type 1

We have jackets for all aboard.

9) 1 spear gun

Me to! Also a Baby Bear Compound bow, Bushmaster AR15
shorty, .303, SS
410 shotgun 18" with slugs, Saber, Colt 1911, ect...
10) 2 VHF radios
What no SSB?
11) 2 cell phones
1
12) MOB Pole (Being installed this weekend)
Yelp
13) two horns
One hand held, one two tone airhorn
14) US Navy signal kit
Search light
15) Other assorted gear and first aid items.



Heart of Gold, like Alien, Ghost and Yoda before her
will continue with
our 100% perfect safety record, with more than 750
guests and counting!

We have never had an accident on RedCloud, living aboard
and sailing
full time since I bought her. Including several LD
offshore racing,
fishing trips. I did have a fish hook go in at the
thumbnail quick an
try to poke out on top of my thumb knuckle, but that was
at the dock.

As you can see...it's easy to do better.

Capt. Joe


RB
35s5
NY

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Capt. Rob wrote:
Reverend Crantz wrote:
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ps.com...

I have an irrational feat of sharks.

The sharks probably mistake you for a large piece of whale ****.



Wow, kind hard to believe that poor Bob has fallen to the level of such
a comment.
Ambergris (Discharged from Sperm Whales) is valuable stuff...10 bucks
an ounce...though not legally traded in the states.

Alexander Pope observed, "Praise is like ambergris; a little whiff of
it, by snatches, is very agreeable; but when a man holds a whole lump
of it to his nose, it is a stink and strikes you down."

Joe


RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ps.com...

But what about private nursing schools, trade schools?


Suzanne went to a private school to save time. Even with her
scholarships, it cost me over 60K, not including buying a second car
and other associated costs and not counting the loss of her previous
income which was pretty good.

You still seem to have no point at all about anything, Bob. Can I help?

You made my point. Krusty seems to think only hospitals can teach nursing.
Graduate school was expensive for me too. I had to buy an extra house and
airplane.

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"Despite the higher pay, the number of people going into nursing is dropping
rapidly"

The statement is false. I proved it. You lose!

Kapoweee! Shaaazaaam!!!!!!

One can not use that statement to prove a nursing shortage. If the number
of nurses leaving are less than entering, there is a nursing glut!

Logic + facts = I win!

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 01:29:39 GMT, "Maxprop" wrote:

They are with the patient for 8 or 12 hours shifts,

In the ER?

The wording might have been slightly off. They are with patients (plural)
for 8 to 12 hours shifts.


but the rheumatologist
may see 50 to 70 patients per day, which broadens his scope of knowledge
and
competence tremendously. While he may not see emergent patients, he was
exposed to first aid and emergency procedures during his medical
education.
And he can give medications, start IVs, or perform a trache without
waiting
for approval from afar.


70 patients a day? In private practice? Just how much LSD did you take
this
time?

Rheumatologists, ophthalmologists, internists, urologists,
otolaryngologists, and a few other subspecialists see that many daily.
That's what proper utilization of staff is all about. Most of those
practitioners spend two to five minutes on average with each patient, and no
time at all with some. Occasionally a patient takes more time and they run
behind (typical). I spent four years with a corneal specialist, during
which his average daily patient load exceeded 100. Of course my colleagues
and I saw most of them while the surgeons just popped in to say "hi" and
"that cornea is looking good, Mrs. Johnson" from time to time.

How did you think these guys gross in the healthy seven figure range each
year?

Max

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"Reverend Crantz" wrote in message
. ..


Brilliant insight. A good number of people are going into nursing today
because of the relatively high pay.

That's hardly a brilliant insight. Nurses rank among the most underpaid
professionals, and they always have. In 1906, nurses earned about 1/3 of
the income of the average physician. What is that ratio now? I'm guessing
it's closer to 1/6 on average, based upon family practitioners, not
specialists or subspecialists, where it could be as low as 1/20 or more.

When there are enough nurses pay will decrease.

There never will be "enough nurses." The shortage is exacerbating and has
been for decades. Adequate staffing for my wife's unit is her chief
administrative problem.

Why is there such a nurse "shortage"? Previously causes were bad working
conditions, lousy pay and long hours. Nurses left the field in droves. Do
you think it will be any different this time around?

Nope. The hours are the worst feature--most nurses work weekends, nights or
evenings, and they are required to work double shifts if called upon to do
so due to weather or sufficient call-offs. The pay is not commensurate with
the level of education or the responsibility assumed. And the burnout rate
is exacerbating. Too many young women enter nursing with unrealistic
expectations, only to leave a few years later for better hours with less
responsibility and stress.

Max

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...


That's not really the whole story behind why there is a nursing
shortage. Hospitals used to operate nursing schools to cultivate new
nurses. Most of those schools are now gone due to cost cutting
measures.

. . . and because their students tended to go elsewhere, rendering
hospital-based programs inefficient in solving staffing needs.

Those schools were a very inviting alternative to motivated,
but financially disadvantaged young people who had no way of going to
college. In my opinion, nurses who went to those hospital nursing
schools had a big advantage over nurses who got their credentials from
a college. Nurses from hospital nursing schools worked in the hospital
for the entire duration of their education. What they learned in class
got used immediately. College trained nurses had substantially less
exposure to practical application.

This is all true.


Despite the higher pay, the number of people going into nursing is
dropping rapidly. We have reached the point now, where if the
hospitals all re-opened their nursing schools, there would not be
enough teachers to staff them.

Such programs aren't likely to be reinstituted. Too costly and inefficient,
regardless of the nursing shortage. There are myriad nursing programs
throughout the country, from LPN programs to two and three year AS programs,
and of course the four-year baccalaureate programs. Their enrollments are
all declining, and the candidate pool is declining in quality as well.
Hospitals are stretched too tight financially these days to reinstitute such
programs.

Max