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Heart of Gold carries the best and most extensive gear. Your boat can't
do better!

1) Full time registered nurse! (See, I already won!)
2) Coastal flare kit
3) Offshore flare kit
4) 3 throwable devices, two with lines.
5) 4 fire extinguishers
6) 1 large first aid kit
7) 4 adult and 1 child safety harnesses
8) 3 Type 1 life jackets, 8 type 2 and 4 type 1
9) 1 spear gun
10) 2 VHF radios
11) 2 cell phones
12) MOB Pole (Being installed this weekend)
13) two horns
14) US Navy signal kit
15) Other assorted gear and first aid items.

Heart of Gold, like Alien, Ghost and Yoda before her will continue with
our 100% perfect safety record, with more than 750 guests and counting!

RB
35s5
NY

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Capt. Rob wrote:

Heart of Gold carries the best and most extensive gear. Your boat can't
do better!

1) Full time registered nurse! (See, I already won!)

How about an MD?

Several here in this group, I suspect you wouldn't even be
tied for 3rd.

As for the long list of supposed equipment, that's good but
safety is not something you can put on your credit card
(assuming you have one in real life).

DSK

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1) Full time registered nurse! (See, I already won!)



How about an MD?


Depends on what kind of MD. A nurse who works in an Emergency Room and
Critical Care is better than many types of MDs in a crisis, which I'm
sure you're aware of.

Who's the doctor aboard your powerboat?


RB
35s5
NY

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As for the long list of supposed equipment, that's good but
safety is not something you can put on your credit card



Who said it was? I listed the gear and the fact remains that my boats
sail more often than any here, with many many guests. Most accidents
happen close to shore, often with new sailors aboard. Dockside also
sees plenty of injuries....because people FEEL safe.
100% safety record after 12 years of sailing with so many people goes a
bit beyond luck, Doug. We're careful and respect the water.


RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt" Rob wrote:
.... I listed the gear and the fact remains that my boats
sail more often than any here,

Actually that's not a "fact" but then it's fairly well
proven that you are one of those neurotic types who believe
your own BS.


100% safety record after 12 years of sailing with so many people goes a
bit beyond luck, Doug.

Sure, it's easy to "be safe" when you never go anywhere.

OTOH if you had really spent much time on the water,
especially around a major metro area, you would have had
many occasions to help others. Most real sailors here have
participated in a rescue at one time or another.

Empty bragging about how you've never had an accident
doesn't impress people who have saved lives at sea; but then
that's just one of the many things you don't understand
about sailing.

DSK

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"Capt" Rob wrote:
Do you consider my motives or do you just blindly forge forward?

Sure.
Your motives are to post a lot and try to get people to
answer you. Any time anybody replies, you "win."

Guess what Bubbles, you're nuts.

DSK

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Sure, it's easy to "be safe" when you never go anywhere.


That comment proves how unsafe a boater your must be. The worst
accidents are close to shore, when people "feel safe."

Being at home is the most dangerous place since most accidents occur there
too.

The safest place in the solar system is either on the surface of the sun or
on Pluto since there's a 100% safety record there.

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Your motives are to post a lot and try to get people to
answer you. Any time anybody replies, you "win."

Ummmm...okay...I WIN!



Guess what Bubbles, you're nuts.


News flash?
Go sailing, Doug. We're going tonight, even though we missed the best
winds of the week.



RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Heart of Gold carries the best and most extensive gear. Your boat can't
do better!

ahahahahahahahahaaaaa!!!


1) Full time registered nurse! (See, I already won!)

And her field experience is? Is she as good as a Navy Corpsman?

2) Coastal flare kit

Hidden by the city lights!

3) Offshore flare kit

Only to be used offshore!

4) 3 throwable devices, two with lines.

You have one anchor without a line?

5) 4 fire extinguishers

Don't include the 3 in the Kia.

6) 1 large first aid kit

From Wal-Mart?

7) 4 adult and 1 child safety harnesses

Isn't your family one adult and two children?

8) 3 Type 1 life jackets, 8 type 2 and 4 type 1

Do they fit someone 6'4" who can't even fit in the head? Do you have to wear
2 at a time?

9) 1 spear gun

aahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaa!!!!!!


10) 2 VHF radios

To talk to the person on the bow?

11) 2 cell phones

To talk to the dock 30 feet away?

12) MOB Pole (Being installed this weekend)

For you it should be a trawler crane.


13) two horns

Is one in the cabin?

14) US Navy signal kit

Know morse code? aahahahahahaahaahaahahaaa!!!


15) Other assorted gear and first aid items.

Defibrillator?

Tracheotomy tube?

Colostomy bag?

Maps?

Hand compass?

Handheld water desalinator?

EPIRB?

Offshore flares!!


Heart of Gold, like Alien, Ghost and Yoda before her will continue with
our 100% perfect safety record, with more than 750 guests and counting!

And the Titanic is unsinkable!

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Cabinboy Rob wrote:
Heart of Gold carries the best and most extensive gear. Your boat can't
do better!

Wanna bet?

1) Full time registered nurse! (See, I already won!)

What if she is the one critically injured?

As we both are licenced MM masters we are both CPR and first aid
certified.
Plus we both have fire fighting certification, and tankerman
endorsements.

2) Coastal flare kit
Well duh, We carry red and white para flares. and 15 pistol flares and
two pistols.

3) Offshore flare kit

Sorta redundant, you going to use one or the other if needed? We also
have 4 sets of Navy issue .25 cal. aviation type pencil flares.

4) 3 throwable devices, two with lines.

we have 2 horse shoe dan bouys on lines, and a lifering, not a cheap
small white one like you have on your stern. Also have a monkey fist on
75ft of line, 12ga line heaving gun, 14 man inflateable raft in hard
case, emergency fishing gear kit, water distillers, signal mirrors, LED
flashlights, .38 snubnose colt, dye markers, EPIRB, Sextant, compass,
sea anchor, canned water, carmel, solar blankets, whistles, glow
sticks, knife.
5) 4 fire extinguishers

3 here.. one dry chem, one CO2. The engine room has an auto halon
system.

6) 1 large first aid kit
Get suzy to get some morphine, rigs, stitching equip, antibiotics.

7) 4 adult and 1 child safety harnesses

We have 2 adult harnesses. And one harness for working aloft with a
dyna brake.

8) 3 Type 1 life jackets, 8 type 2 and 4 type 1

We have jackets for all aboard.

9) 1 spear gun

Me to! Also a Baby Bear Compound bow, Bushmaster AR15 shorty, .303, SS
410 shotgun 18" with slugs, Saber, Colt 1911, ect...
10) 2 VHF radios
What no SSB?
11) 2 cell phones
1
12) MOB Pole (Being installed this weekend)
Yelp
13) two horns
One hand held, one two tone airhorn
14) US Navy signal kit
Search light
15) Other assorted gear and first aid items.



Heart of Gold, like Alien, Ghost and Yoda before her will continue with
our 100% perfect safety record, with more than 750 guests and counting!

We have never had an accident on RedCloud, living aboard and sailing
full time since I bought her. Including several LD offshore racing,
fishing trips. I did have a fish hook go in at the thumbnail quick an
try to poke out on top of my thumb knuckle, but that was at the dock.

As you can see...it's easy to do better.

Capt. Joe


RB
35s5
NY

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1) Full time registered nurse! (See, I already won!)



And her field experience is? Is she as good as a Navy Corpsman?



Compared to some old corpsman, her knowledge base is up to date.
Working in emergency and critical care means she sees action all the
time...more than most corpsmen to be sure.

RB
35s5
NY

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Wanna bet?


1) Full time registered nurse! (See, I already won!)



What if she is the one critically injured?

She has been training me as well. I am also CPR certified, as are
plenty of folks. But Suzanne has been teaching me well beyond that.

As we both are licenced MM masters we are both CPR and first aid
certified.

You have no where near Suzanne's knowledge and she's active in
emergency in critical care, applying her skills 30 hours a week.


Plus we both have fire fighting certification

Can't match you there.


2) Coastal flare kit


Well duh, We carry red and white para flares. and 15 pistol flares and
two pistols.


we have 2 horse shoe dan bouys on lines, and a lifering, not a cheap
small white one like you have on your stern. Also have a monkey fist on

75ft of line, 12ga line heaving gun, 14 man inflateable raft in hard
case, emergency fishing gear kit, water distillers, signal mirrors, LED

flashlights, .38 snubnose colt, dye markers, EPIRB, Sextant, compass,
sea anchor, canned water, carmel, solar blankets, whistles, glow
sticks, knife.

This extra gear is not needed for our sailing grounds...or yours!!!


3 here.. one dry chem, one CO2. The engine room has an auto halon
system.

Halon is too dangerous. We're using standard fireboy system.


Get suzy to get some morphine, rigs, stitching equip, antibiotics.


I said large kit. We have all of that and much more.


8) 3 Type 1 life jackets, 8 type 2 and 4 type 1


We have jackets for all aboard.


Me to! Also a Baby Bear Compound bow, Bushmaster AR15 shorty, .303, SS
410 shotgun 18" with slugs, Saber, Colt 1911, ect...

Hey, if diving in waters with sharks, what's a top pick?


We have never had an accident on RedCloud, living aboard and sailing

full time since I bought her. Including several LD offshore racing,
fishing trips.

Unlike Doug, I'm pleased to hear that.

As you can see...it's easy to do better.

If not for the fishing accident you would have tired. It's 2nd place
for you!


RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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1) Full time registered nurse! (See, I already won!)



And her field experience is? Is she as good as a Navy Corpsman?



Compared to some old corpsman, her knowledge base is up to date.
Working in emergency and critical care means she sees action all the
time...more than most corpsmen to be sure.


Is she a certified critical care or emergency room nurse?

hmmmm?

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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1) Full time registered nurse! (See, I already won!)



And her field experience is? Is she as good as a Navy Corpsman?



Compared to some old corpsman, her knowledge base is up to date.
Working in emergency and critical care means she sees action all the
time...more than most corpsmen to be sure.



Corpsman are first responders, just like EMT. Nurses work in clinical
settings. In the field the EMT/Corpsman has the upper hand.

Suzy can probably juggle bedpans with more alacrity!

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Capt. Rob wrote:
Actually that's not a "fact" but then it's fairly well
proven


Sorry, Doug. It's a fact. If you don't believe it, it's STILL a fact.


Sure, it's easy to "be safe" when you never go anywhere.


That comment proves how unsafe a boater your must be. The worst
accidents are close to shore, when people "feel safe."

Not so bubbles. On a supply boat 20 miles offshore the first mate was
cut in half when a line parted on a Point Marine boat I worked on, he
was relief crew. Had a deck hand get his hand sucked into a turbo
charger and have all his fingers removed to the second knuckles about
80 mile offshore. One of Terry's crewmates had his leg crushed off
between two shrimpboats 110 miles offshore, and a deck hand have his
hand tore off in the net winch. My first boat over 100 tons that I ran
for a week with only an OS ticket we had to evac the skipper for Kidney
stones, had a deck hand break both his ankles offloading cargo at a
platform 100 mi offshore, seen 2 suicides, one a girl dove 8 stories
onto a submarine tied next to us, one baby born aboard, one killed on a
tugboat trying to pull our ship away from the pier as a line parted (de
capated) I was stabbed by a sheet of metal blown while on a crane hoist
offshore, had a Ray tail cut my leg open 11" to the femor bone in a
tropical attoll harbor, one OD, one deckhand had a heart attack in Bay
of DeCampchee, 1 lost at sea in the pacific, one major
electrocution. Terry broke her ankle boarding a crewboat once. And we
were in a major head on collision were Terry ruptured her spleen,
lacerated her kidney, broke several ribs on a river 40 miles from town.
Saw the whole crew(8) of a supplyboat that capsized die in Laguna
Madre, and a tug crew cept the cook all killed when a tow tripped in
the gulf. And a 1000 other cuts and bruises sprains and strains.

Capt. Joe

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You have watched to many Jaws movies,


I have an irrational feat of sharks. It's to the point that I've not
comfortable cleaning the keel for 20 minutes here on the Sound. I've
considered doing a shark dive to get over it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qjWQNwv-GJ4

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vmYp-4-xN...n%20by%20shark


RB
35s5
NY

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Capt. Rob wrote:
You have watched to many Jaws movies,


I have an irrational feat of sharks. It's to the point that I've not
comfortable cleaning the keel for 20 minutes here on the Sound. I've
considered doing a shark dive to get over it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qjWQNwv-GJ4

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vmYp-4-xN...n%20by%20shark


RB
35s5
NY

A lot of equipment but nobody with any sense to use it. Bad judgement
will always negate good equipment Rob.

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A lot of equipment but nobody with any sense to use it.


Note how scumbag the sailor now just flings lame insults? Wanna know
why? He

RB, I'm not going to join the fray, but I will say this. I just did
a lot of searching on Google, and I can't find a single news item
saying they STOLE the dinghy. The stories say they TOOK a dinghy, but
that could easily mean it belonged to one of the kids. Not ONE
reference I could find called it a theft in any way. Yesterday, my wife

and I TOOK a sailboat out sailing. It was not stolen, either. What kind

of person would label them criminals for such a deadly and sad stunt,
even if they had "stolen" it? That "Dave" (Sockpuppet?) is really a
creep.

Thanks....


RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...

1) Full time registered nurse! (See, I already won!)



How about an MD?


Depends on what kind of MD. A nurse who works in an Emergency Room and
Critical Care is better than many types of MDs in a crisis, which I'm
sure you're aware of.

Really? Can a nurse start an IV, cardiovert, or give life-saving injections
to non-family members, legally and without medical direction? Can your
wife perform a tracheotomy? Can she perform a cut-down if she can't find a
vein? Can she order a helicopter evac? My wife is an RN, incidentally, so
you can't BS your way out of this. I also happen to know that NY's
regulations are stiffer than ours, and our nurses cannot do any of those
things without medical permission.

Max

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...

That comment proves how unsafe a boater your must be. The worst
accidents are close to shore, when people "feel safe."

Is that "sage" comment going to be included in your "book?" Another reason
to ignore it.


Doug, your ignorance knows no bounds! This is NYC and the LIS. How
often do you think a 7 knot sailboat does a rescue is an area where
that are thousands of fast powerboats?

Whenever the sailboat is nearby, and/or the powerboats are hugging their
docks because the waves are more than itty-bitty.


Most people HAVE had accidents. We haven't. I suspect you have had some
accidents. Sorry about that. Maybe you've learned something by now? Oh,
yeah. You got a trawler!

You've never run aground? You've never clobbered the dock a bit hard when
docking in high wind or when the engine died? If you answer "no" to these,
I'd have to conclude that you really never do leave the dock.

Oh, I thought a "real" sailor would be impressed by a good safety
record. It must be those 80% safety records they're looking for!!!

Real sailors are impressed with accomplishments. If one never leaves the
dock, the safety record will remain impeccable, but the accomplishments nil.

Doug...with every post, so desperate to win any ground, you always
lose! It's amazing! Do you even THINK at all before you start typing?
Do you consider my motives or do you just blindly forge forward?
Sailboat rescues on the LIS, folks!!! You head it here 1st. Oh, sure we
did help out a sick woman once, but only because no other boats were
around, which is damn rare!

Try again, Doug!!! Oh, and real sailors have SAILS!

If you wish to pursue this line of reasoning, it might be reasonably
concluded that only Lin and Larry Pardey are "real sailors." They have no
auxiliary, nor have they in any of their boats which, importantly, they
built by themselves. After several circumnavigations, they've still never
seen the necessity for the added weight, expense, and loss of storage space
of including an engine.

Lin and Larry are real sailors--you're just a glorified powerboater.
Oh--one that never leaves the dock, for that matter.

Max

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"Reverend Crantz" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Sure, it's easy to "be safe" when you never go anywhere.


That comment proves how unsafe a boater your must be. The worst
accidents are close to shore, when people "feel safe."

Being at home is the most dangerous place since most accidents occur there
too.

Stastically, the bathtub is number one. Avoid bathing and you'll amass a
100% safety record at home, just like Bubbles.

The safest place in the solar system is either on the surface of the sun
or on Pluto since there's a 100% safety record there.

Sorry. Several unmanned spacecraft have been "absorbed" by the solar limb
over the past few decades. Of course NASA and the Russian Space Agency both
planned it that way. But the fact remains that vehicles have "crashed" into
the sun. Pluto may be right, however, if one discounts meteorites and such
slamming into its frozen surface.

Max

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Being at home is the most dangerous place since most accidents occur
there
too.


Which is why my MOB pole is resting just a few feet away from my home
office.

Makes perfect sense, consideing that your boat never leaves the dock.

Max

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Compared to some old corpsman, her knowledge base is up to date.
Working in emergency and critical care means she sees action all the
time...more than most corpsmen to be sure.

And how often does she call the shots w/r/t patient care? Nurses may know
how to perform life-saving measures, but they are also trained to obtain
medical direction before doing so. I've no doubt your wife is similarly
trained and experienced.

A corpsman is trained to react and provide measures to correct emergent
situations, without medical direction. In a true emergency give me the
corpsman every time.

Max

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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She has been training me as well. I am also CPR certified, as are
plenty of folks. But Suzanne has been teaching me well beyond that.

Poor Bobby. Much as I love him, he's been the slowest possible student
imaginable. I try to teach him CPR and all he wants to do is fondle the
breasts on the Rescusi-Annie. And he "tongues" her while giving
breaths--can you imagine that?!! He gets a full-blown erection, tiny as it
is, every time I get her out of the case. I can always detect that little
bulge in his pants whenever I mention CPR practice. I doubt if he'll ever
learn anything. He won't even try.

Suzy
35s5 Heart of Gold

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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You have watched to many Jaws movies,


I have an irrational feat of sharks. It's to the point that I've not
comfortable cleaning the keel for 20 minutes here on the Sound. I've
considered doing a shark dive to get over it.

Not recommended in your case--they'd smell your fear and go right for the
nards.

Max

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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A lot of equipment but nobody with any sense to use it.


Note how scumbag the sailor now just flings lame insults? Wanna know
why? He

RB, I'm not going to join the fray, but I will say this. I just did
a lot of searching on Google, and I can't find a single news item
saying they STOLE the dinghy. The stories say they TOOK a dinghy, but
that could easily mean it belonged to one of the kids. Not ONE
reference I could find called it a theft in any way. Yesterday, my wife

and I TOOK a sailboat out sailing. It was not stolen, either. What kind

of person would label them criminals for such a deadly and sad stunt,
even if they had "stolen" it? That "Dave" (Sockpuppet?) is really a
creep.

Thanks....

RB IS SO DESPERATE HE'S QUOTING ANONYMOUS SOURCES AND LONG GONE ASA'ERS TO
MAKE HIS CASE!!!!

AND IT ISN'T WORKING!!!!!!!!

bwahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaaa!!!!!!!!

He's also a trained nurse!

A marine surveyor!

ahahahahaahahaaahaahahaahahaha!!!!!

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:11:43 GMT, "Maxprop"
wrote:


"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
roups.com...

1) Full time registered nurse! (See, I already won!)



How about an MD?


Depends on what kind of MD. A nurse who works in an Emergency Room and
Critical Care is better than many types of MDs in a crisis, which I'm
sure you're aware of.

Really? Can a nurse start an IV, cardiovert, or give life-saving
injections
to non-family members, legally and without medical direction? Can your
wife perform a tracheotomy? Can she perform a cut-down if she can't find
a
vein? Can she order a helicopter evac? My wife is an RN, incidentally,
so
you can't BS your way out of this. I also happen to know that NY's
regulations are stiffer than ours, and our nurses cannot do any of those
things without medical permission.

Max


Most Registered Nurses I know, (and I know quite a few), in an onboard
emergency, would concentrate on saving the life, and worry about
whether it was strictly legal later. They became nurses and remained
nurses because they are passionate about what they do.

Most new doctors get their REAL training amd mentoring from Registered
Nurses. If your wife is an RN and works in a hospital setting, I'm
sure she can verify that for you. Rob is correct that many MD's are
not as capable in emergency situations as many nurses. That doesn't
make them incompetent as Doctors. They just have different strengths
or areas of expertise. Some plumbers may also have carpentry skills,
and some anesthesiologists may have skills in orthopedics. Critical
care and emergency room nurses tend to be generalists, and are used to
making very quick and correct decisions on life and death matters
under pressure. They also get a lot of experience in a lot more areas
in a much shorter period of time than, say, a rheumatologist who has
been in private practice for 30 years.

CWM

Suzzette is a phrenologist.

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Capt. Rob wrote:

Which is why my pole is resting just a few feet away from my homo
orifice.

Eww.... And it's detachable!


--
Capt Scumbalino

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BB wrote:


Most new doctors get their REAL training amd mentoring from Registered
Nurses. If your wife is an RN and works in a hospital setting, I'm
sure she can verify that for you. Rob is correct that many MD's are
not as capable in emergency situations as many nurses.

So that would be like "Capt Rob" learning from a real cabin boy..right?


That doesn't
make them incompetent as Doctors. They just have different strengths
or areas of expertise. Some plumbers may also have carpentry skills,
and some anesthesiologists may have skills in orthopedics. Critical
care and emergency room nurses tend to be generalists, and are used to
making very quick and correct decisions on life and death matters
under pressure.

Indeed they do...not a job I'd wan't to deal with. Pays pretty good.
High burnout average and turnover. I bet it's high stress if you have
passion towards the people you are treating. Top that off with the
million plus people killed in Hospitals from medical mistakes a career
wrought with stress.

IMO Rob should publish that best seller, or direct a block buster and
provide Suzy with a less stressfull life.

Joe


BB

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"Reverend Crantz" wrote in message
. ..

Suzzette is a phrenologist.


sounds fancy. Around here, we just call them hookers.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_

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Suzzette is a phrenologist.



sounds fancy. Around here, we just call them hookers.



Hey, Bob, that was funny...but it went right over Scotty's retard
shaped head!


RB
35s5
NY

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http://community.webshots.com/photo/...27658508500938
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--
Scotty
''One who never gets out of the Sound cannot, with
any degree of credibility, comment on the courage
of fellow sailors'' ....F.B.
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Bwaaahaahaahaaaaahaahahaahahahahhahaaha!!!!!!!!!!! !!


"Scotty" wrote in message
...
http://tinyurl.com/pzdl8



http://community.webshots.com/photo/...27658508500938
94541icBprB#




--
Scotty
''One who never gets out of the Sound cannot, with
any degree of credibility, comment on the courage
of fellow sailors'' ....F.B.
http://tinyurl.com/hzaua

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Offshore Flare Kit... Bwahahahahahaahahahahaaaa!!!

You forgot to mention your FINS!!!! Bwahahahahahahahaaa!!!

Spear Gun?????? Bwahahahahahaahahahahahaa!!!!! You're making this up ain't
ya!?

Taking my advise on the MOB Pole I see.... and to think you scoffed at my
suggestion at first! Tsk Tsk Tsk

Oh Dear Gawd... my sides hurt from laughing so hard after reading your
"Safety Gear" list!!!

It'll be as useless as your "extensive" navigational equipment you never
learned to use!

CM-


"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Heart of Gold carries the best and most extensive gear. Your boat can't
do better!

1) Full time registered nurse! (See, I already won!)
2) Coastal flare kit
3) Offshore flare kit
4) 3 throwable devices, two with lines.
5) 4 fire extinguishers
6) 1 large first aid kit
7) 4 adult and 1 child safety harnesses
8) 3 Type 1 life jackets, 8 type 2 and 4 type 1
9) 1 spear gun
10) 2 VHF radios
11) 2 cell phones
12) MOB Pole (Being installed this weekend)
13) two horns
14) US Navy signal kit
15) Other assorted gear and first aid items.

Heart of Gold, like Alien, Ghost and Yoda before her will continue with
our 100% perfect safety record, with more than 750 guests and counting!

RB
35s5
NY

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message

Most Registered Nurses I know, (and I know quite a few), in an onboard
emergency, would concentrate on saving the life, and worry about
whether it was strictly legal later. They became nurses and remained
nurses because they are passionate about what they do.

Apparently you haven't known any who've worked a few years and have
experienced nurse burnout.


Most new doctors get their REAL training amd mentoring from Registered
Nurses. If your wife is an RN and works in a hospital setting, I'm
sure she can verify that for you.

Indeed she has. The brightest young physcians and medical students are
quick to ask nurses "what do I do now?"

Rob is correct that many MD's are
not as capable in emergency situations as many nurses. That doesn't
make them incompetent as Doctors. They just have different strengths
or areas of expertise.

Most physicians who've been in general (family) practice or internal
medicine for more than a few years are quite competent in emergent
situations, and far more capable of taking the measures necessary to save a
life than a nurse of similar years. As for ER physicians, there is no
comparison.

Some plumbers may also have carpentry skills,
and some anesthesiologists may have skills in orthopedics. Critical
care and emergency room nurses tend to be generalists,

The ICU and ER trend today is toward Clinical Nurse Specialists or Nurse
Practioners in such environments. They are highly-specialized and probably
as capable of saving lives as the physicians in their respective fields.
But first aid may not be their proverbial cup of tea, so to speak. They use
advanced techniques in their specialties and aren't really all that versed
in general concepts of first aid.

and are used to
making very quick and correct decisions on life and death matters
under pressure. They also get a lot of experience in a lot more areas
in a much shorter period of time than, say, a rheumatologist who has
been in private practice for 30 years.

They are with the patient for 8 or 12 hours shifts, but the rheumatologist
may see 50 to 70 patients per day, which broadens his scope of knowledge and
competence tremendously. While he may not see emergent patients, he was
exposed to first aid and emergency procedures during his medical education.
And he can give medications, start IVs, or perform a trache without waiting
for approval from afar.

Max

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"Reverend Crantz" wrote in message
. ..

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:11:43 GMT, "Maxprop"
wrote:


"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
groups.com...

1) Full time registered nurse! (See, I already won!)



How about an MD?


Depends on what kind of MD. A nurse who works in an Emergency Room and
Critical Care is better than many types of MDs in a crisis, which I'm
sure you're aware of.

Really? Can a nurse start an IV, cardiovert, or give life-saving
injections
to non-family members, legally and without medical direction? Can your
wife perform a tracheotomy? Can she perform a cut-down if she can't find
a
vein? Can she order a helicopter evac? My wife is an RN, incidentally,
so
you can't BS your way out of this. I also happen to know that NY's
regulations are stiffer than ours, and our nurses cannot do any of those
things without medical permission.

Max


Most Registered Nurses I know, (and I know quite a few), in an onboard
emergency, would concentrate on saving the life, and worry about
whether it was strictly legal later. They became nurses and remained
nurses because they are passionate about what they do.

Most new doctors get their REAL training amd mentoring from Registered
Nurses. If your wife is an RN and works in a hospital setting, I'm
sure she can verify that for you. Rob is correct that many MD's are
not as capable in emergency situations as many nurses. That doesn't
make them incompetent as Doctors. They just have different strengths
or areas of expertise. Some plumbers may also have carpentry skills,
and some anesthesiologists may have skills in orthopedics. Critical
care and emergency room nurses tend to be generalists, and are used to
making very quick and correct decisions on life and death matters
under pressure. They also get a lot of experience in a lot more areas
in a much shorter period of time than, say, a rheumatologist who has
been in private practice for 30 years.

CWM

Suzzette is a phrenologist.

You've got it backwards. She doesn't read those bumps on Bubble's head--she
puts 'em there.

Max

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...



Most new doctors get their REAL training amd mentoring from Registered
Nurses. If your wife is an RN and works in a hospital setting, I'm
sure she can verify that for you.

Indeed she has. The brightest young physcians and medical students are
quick to ask nurses "what do I do now?"


It's the old "the guy who puts the nut on the propeller is really the one
who designed it" syndrome.

It's the nurses who teach the doctors, do all the medical research, design
and invent the medical devices, develop new therapies, finance the building
of hospitals, manage HMO's, write HIPAA regulations, etc, etc. Why spend all
that time becoming a doctor and doing research for years when you can simply
get a nursing certificate from Evelyn Wood trade school and instantly know
it all?

Labor unions built the auto industry, nurses built the entire medical
profession, gas station attendents built the oil industry, produce clerks
built the agriculture industry, and stewardesses built the airline industry.

Aaahahahahahahahaaaaa! And these idiots wonder why their jobs go overseas!

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Joe wins!



What is ''canned water'' and carmel?

Scotty



"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...

Cabinboy Rob wrote:
Heart of Gold carries the best and most extensive gear.
Your boat can't
do better!

Wanna bet?

1) Full time registered nurse! (See, I already won!)

What if she is the one critically injured?

As we both are licenced MM masters we are both CPR and
first aid
certified.
Plus we both have fire fighting certification, and
tankerman
endorsements.

2) Coastal flare kit
Well duh, We carry red and white para flares. and 15
pistol flares and
two pistols.

3) Offshore flare kit

Sorta redundant, you going to use one or the other if
needed? We also
have 4 sets of Navy issue .25 cal. aviation type pencil
flares.

4) 3 throwable devices, two with lines.

we have 2 horse shoe dan bouys on lines, and a lifering,
not a cheap
small white one like you have on your stern. Also have a
monkey fist on
75ft of line, 12ga line heaving gun, 14 man inflateable
raft in hard
case, emergency fishing gear kit, water distillers, signal
mirrors, LED
flashlights, .38 snubnose colt, dye markers, EPIRB,
Sextant, compass,
sea anchor, canned water, carmel, solar blankets,
whistles, glow
sticks, knife.
5) 4 fire extinguishers

3 here.. one dry chem, one CO2. The engine room has an
auto halon
system.

6) 1 large first aid kit
Get suzy to get some morphine, rigs, stitching equip,
antibiotics.

7) 4 adult and 1 child safety harnesses

We have 2 adult harnesses. And one harness for working
aloft with a
dyna brake.

8) 3 Type 1 life jackets, 8 type 2 and 4 type 1

We have jackets for all aboard.

9) 1 spear gun

Me to! Also a Baby Bear Compound bow, Bushmaster AR15
shorty, .303, SS
410 shotgun 18" with slugs, Saber, Colt 1911, ect...
10) 2 VHF radios
What no SSB?
11) 2 cell phones
1
12) MOB Pole (Being installed this weekend)
Yelp
13) two horns
One hand held, one two tone airhorn
14) US Navy signal kit
Search light
15) Other assorted gear and first aid items.



Heart of Gold, like Alien, Ghost and Yoda before her
will continue with
our 100% perfect safety record, with more than 750
guests and counting!

We have never had an accident on RedCloud, living aboard
and sailing
full time since I bought her. Including several LD
offshore racing,
fishing trips. I did have a fish hook go in at the
thumbnail quick an
try to poke out on top of my thumb knuckle, but that was
at the dock.

As you can see...it's easy to do better.

Capt. Joe


RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ps.com...

You have watched to many Jaws movies,


I have an irrational feat of sharks.

Must be tough finding shoes.

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"Joe" wrote ...


Also you need to use care not to look
like a seal if surfing.


Bob looks more like a Manatee ,
--
Scotty
''One who never gets out of the Sound cannot, with
any degree of credibility, comment on the courage
of fellow sailors'' ....F.B.
http://tinyurl.com/pzdl8with gas.