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Capt. JG July 30th 06 09:12 PM

Basic Safety Gear-You can't do better!
 
Sure thing... I'm just kidding.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...

Capt. JG wrote:
Jim, Joe has a steel boat. He doesn't have to worry about a stinkin oil
rig.
:-)


Jim's seen my boat Jon. Even left a bunch of Corona:0)

But it's easy to tear and punch holes in anything when you just brush
against the corners of a jack -up Rig. Aluminum crewboat's cut-up like
butter. You do not tie to jack-up's or and rig to pleasure fish, you
tie to production platforms.

This is a small jack-up but it show the corner of the legs and the
dreaded jacking teeth.
They just launched 3-4 500 ft Jack-up buildt in Singapore this year.
http://www.ocsbbs.com/AOC%20Offshore...0Collapse2.jpg

Joe


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"JimC" wrote in message
y.com...


Joe wrote:
Capt. JG wrote:

You don't need an anchor light in a designated anchorage, although
it's a
good idea.

You don't need someone on watch if you're confident of your anchoring
and
conditions are mellow.


I have to dis-agree with you Jon. When I say at sea I mean in the Gulf
of Mexico here. It's easy to have shallow enough water to anchor as
far
out is 15-25 miles in places. Under 100 ft for me, I only carry 325 ft
of chain. I'm less worried about dragging anchor than getting run down
by a commerical vessel. If you do drag, or lose your anchor all
together with a 6 kt current could carry 48 miles in 8hrs with a fair
chance of hitting a platform. We normally tie to a platform offshore,
or use field bouys. Platform it's a must. any shift in weather can put
you into the legs ect. Myself I can not sleep easy with no one on
watch, even on my own boat. Now if you were inland in a cozy cove it's
a totally different story.


Joe, are you saying you tie up to one of the oil platforms, and if so,
how
do you keep your boat from swinging into parts of the platform when
currents change? (Might be hard on the mast.) Or, do you only do this
when
you maintain a watch to monitor the situation continuously? Somehow I
don't think my little boat would fare as well in that kind of situation
as
Red Cloud, built of reinforced stainless steel of course.

Jim

Jim





Capt.Mooron July 31st 06 03:25 AM

Basic Safety Gear-You can't do better!
 
Scary... all that training, a title... and they can't get out of their own
way let alone remember anything they were supposed to know.

Tsk Tsk Tsk... Captain Ganz...Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaaaa

CM-

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
a) A vessel at anchor shall exhibit where it can best be
seen:

(i) in the fore part, an all-round white light or one
ball;



(e) A vessel of less than 7 meters in length, when at anchor
not in or near a narrow channel, fairway or where other
vessels normally navigate, shall not be required to exhibit
the shape prescribed in paragraphs (a) and (b) of this Rule.


http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknow...g/colregs.html



"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Isn't that related to size of vessel? I can't remember and

it's late here.

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"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Technically you should show an anchor ball, right?

SV

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
If the holding is good and you're only going to be

there a
short time, and
it's during the day, you don't need an anchor light,

and
you don't need to
keep a watch. Why two anchors? Is the bottom that lousy

or
the wind/current
shifting that much? How did you deploy?

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"JimC" wrote in message

. com...
I wasn't thinking of using it at sea. What I had in

mind
was anchoring
behind Red Fish Island, with two anchors, and taking a
nap. I have one on
my Garmin chartplotter, but I think I need a backup.

Jim


Joe wrote:
JimC wrote:

What's a good but inexpensive portable GPS that
includes an anchor alarm?

Jim


Any magellian GPS will work and show movement.

If you are on anchor or stopped at sea you need

someone
on watch. No if
and or butts about it.

Weather you are on anchor or tied to a rig someone
needs to be awake
and on watch.

Joe







Joe wrote:


BB wrote:



Most new doctors get their REAL training amd
mentoring from Registered
Nurses. If your wife is an RN and works in a

hospital
setting, I'm
sure she can verify that for you. Rob is correct

that
many MD's are
not as capable in emergency situations as many
nurses.


So that would be like "Capt Rob" learning from a

real
cabin boy..right?


That doesn't


make them incompetent as Doctors. They just have
different strengths
or areas of expertise. Some plumbers may also have
carpentry skills,
and some anesthesiologists may have skills in
orthopedics. Critical
care and emergency room nurses tend to be
generalists, and are used to
making very quick and correct decisions on life

and
death matters
under pressure.


Indeed they do...not a job I'd wan't to deal with.
Pays pretty good.
High burnout average and turnover. I bet it's high
stress if you have
passion towards the people you are treating. Top

that
off with the
million plus people killed in Hospitals from

medical
mistakes a career
wrought with stress.

IMO Rob should publish that best seller, or direct

a
block buster and
provide Suzy with a less stressfull life.

Joe




BB















Capt. JG July 31st 06 04:20 AM

Basic Safety Gear-You can't do better!
 
Fortunately for Mooron since he has me in his killfile, he thinks he's not
looking like an idiot right about now. :-)

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:XSdzg.176831$S61.40708@edtnps90...
Scary... all that training, a title... and they can't get out of their own
way let alone remember anything they were supposed to know.

Tsk Tsk Tsk... Captain Ganz...Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaaaa

CM-

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
a) A vessel at anchor shall exhibit where it can best be
seen:

(i) in the fore part, an all-round white light or one
ball;



(e) A vessel of less than 7 meters in length, when at anchor
not in or near a narrow channel, fairway or where other
vessels normally navigate, shall not be required to exhibit
the shape prescribed in paragraphs (a) and (b) of this Rule.


http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknow...g/colregs.html



"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Isn't that related to size of vessel? I can't remember and

it's late here.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Technically you should show an anchor ball, right?

SV

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
If the holding is good and you're only going to be

there a
short time, and
it's during the day, you don't need an anchor light,

and
you don't need to
keep a watch. Why two anchors? Is the bottom that lousy

or
the wind/current
shifting that much? How did you deploy?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"JimC" wrote in message

. com...
I wasn't thinking of using it at sea. What I had in

mind
was anchoring
behind Red Fish Island, with two anchors, and taking a
nap. I have one on
my Garmin chartplotter, but I think I need a backup.

Jim


Joe wrote:
JimC wrote:

What's a good but inexpensive portable GPS that
includes an anchor alarm?

Jim


Any magellian GPS will work and show movement.

If you are on anchor or stopped at sea you need

someone
on watch. No if
and or butts about it.

Weather you are on anchor or tied to a rig someone
needs to be awake
and on watch.

Joe







Joe wrote:


BB wrote:



Most new doctors get their REAL training amd
mentoring from Registered
Nurses. If your wife is an RN and works in a

hospital
setting, I'm
sure she can verify that for you. Rob is correct

that
many MD's are
not as capable in emergency situations as many
nurses.


So that would be like "Capt Rob" learning from a

real
cabin boy..right?


That doesn't


make them incompetent as Doctors. They just have
different strengths
or areas of expertise. Some plumbers may also have
carpentry skills,
and some anesthesiologists may have skills in
orthopedics. Critical
care and emergency room nurses tend to be
generalists, and are used to
making very quick and correct decisions on life

and
death matters
under pressure.


Indeed they do...not a job I'd wan't to deal with.
Pays pretty good.
High burnout average and turnover. I bet it's high
stress if you have
passion towards the people you are treating. Top

that
off with the
million plus people killed in Hospitals from

medical
mistakes a career
wrought with stress.

IMO Rob should publish that best seller, or direct

a
block buster and
provide Suzy with a less stressfull life.

Joe




BB

















Joe July 31st 06 04:36 AM

Basic Safety Gear-You can't do better!
 

Capt.Mooron wrote:
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

I'm sailing tomorrow and Monday....


Like starting tomorrow and coming back Monday.... or going out on Sunday
for a short sail and doing the same thing on Monday?

Man it must just suck to sail the same area day in and day out... surrounded
by buildings in a dirty harbour. Don't you get tired of it? I mean really.
No matter how much a person loves sailing..... doing the same thing in the
same location day after day must be nauseating after a while.

I'm heading to the Mahone Bay Classic Boat Festival next Thursday. We'll go
to Rogue's Roost and overnight then catch the morning breeze to East
Ironbound and on into Mahone Bay. It's a short trip... about 50 nautical
miles. We'll get some ocean time and pass by Peggy's Cove on the way. I've
done the trip dock to dock in 5 hours during a gale.... but I'm expecting to
take my time, do some fishing enroute and get there in about 8 hours.

CM


Was Peggy's Cove the place that had the gun-powder ship exploded and
destroyed the town?

You trolling or stopping to fish?
What are you fishing for?

Joe


Scotty July 31st 06 12:15 PM

Basic Safety Gear-You can't do better!
 
But he does appear to be quite angry, doesn't he?


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Fortunately for Mooron since he has me in his killfile, he

thinks he's not
looking like an idiot right about now. :-)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:XSdzg.176831$S61.40708@edtnps90...
Scary... all that training, a title... and they can't

get out of their own
way let alone remember anything they were supposed to

know.

Tsk Tsk Tsk... Captain

Ganz...Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaaaa

CM-

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
a) A vessel at anchor shall exhibit where it can best

be
seen:

(i) in the fore part, an all-round white light or

one
ball;



(e) A vessel of less than 7 meters in length, when at

anchor
not in or near a narrow channel, fairway or where other
vessels normally navigate, shall not be required to

exhibit
the shape prescribed in paragraphs (a) and (b) of this

Rule.



http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknow...g/colregs.html



"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Isn't that related to size of vessel? I can't remember

and
it's late here.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Technically you should show an anchor ball, right?

SV

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
If the holding is good and you're only going to be
there a
short time, and
it's during the day, you don't need an anchor

light,
and
you don't need to
keep a watch. Why two anchors? Is the bottom that

lousy
or
the wind/current
shifting that much? How did you deploy?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"JimC" wrote in message


. com...
I wasn't thinking of using it at sea. What I had

in
mind
was anchoring
behind Red Fish Island, with two anchors, and

taking a
nap. I have one on
my Garmin chartplotter, but I think I need a

backup.

Jim


Joe wrote:
JimC wrote:

What's a good but inexpensive portable GPS that
includes an anchor alarm?

Jim


Any magellian GPS will work and show movement.

If you are on anchor or stopped at sea you need
someone
on watch. No if
and or butts about it.

Weather you are on anchor or tied to a rig

someone
needs to be awake
and on watch.

Joe







Joe wrote:


BB wrote:



Most new doctors get their REAL training amd
mentoring from Registered
Nurses. If your wife is an RN and works in a
hospital
setting, I'm
sure she can verify that for you. Rob is

correct
that
many MD's are
not as capable in emergency situations as many
nurses.


So that would be like "Capt Rob" learning from

a
real
cabin boy..right?


That doesn't


make them incompetent as Doctors. They just

have
different strengths
or areas of expertise. Some plumbers may also

have
carpentry skills,
and some anesthesiologists may have skills in
orthopedics. Critical
care and emergency room nurses tend to be
generalists, and are used to
making very quick and correct decisions on

life
and
death matters
under pressure.


Indeed they do...not a job I'd wan't to deal

with.
Pays pretty good.
High burnout average and turnover. I bet it's

high
stress if you have
passion towards the people you are treating.

Top
that
off with the
million plus people killed in Hospitals from
medical
mistakes a career
wrought with stress.

IMO Rob should publish that best seller, or

direct
a
block buster and
provide Suzy with a less stressfull life.

Joe




BB



















Joe July 31st 06 02:42 PM

Basic Safety Gear-You can't do better!
 

Capt.Mooron wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

Was Peggy's Cove the place that had the gun-powder ship exploded and
destroyed the town?


That was Halifax..... the blast destroyed half of the entire city.


Ok, you guys had the Mont Blanc, we had the Grande Camp in Texas City.
Texas city is about 20 mi S. of me. Notice ....... they both were
French named ships.



Google Halifax Explosion.... then Google Peggy's Cove.... then Google Mahone
Bay.


http://www.woodenboatfestival.org/imgs/ps_header.jpg Like that clipper
bow, looks like a mini RedCloud hull.

Peggy's cove looks like my kind of place. Is most the fishing Lobster
fishing?

Now Mahone Bay, I'd like to make the Pumpkin People Fesitval.

You trolling or stopping to fish?
What are you fishing for?


Running two sets, a Deep Troll & Shallow Troll - Mackerel, Halibut,
Swordfish, Cod, Pollock, Haddock and Hake.


Wow sounds like fun fishing, love to hook up with a nice swordfish.
Not many people who post here know how to fish, or even talk about
fishing. Yet sailboats make the best trolling vessels on earth, I'm
rarely not trolling underway in the Gulf. We troll for King & Spanish
mackerel, Sailfish, Yellowfin & BluefinTuna, Dolphin, ling, White &
Blue Marlin.

I have a 1942 Dam Ocean 4040 on the original Dam pole. Makes Penn look
like junk.

Joe

CM



Capt. JG July 31st 06 04:13 PM

Basic Safety Gear-You can't do better!
 
I think it's more being confused at this point. Probably too much of the
rum.

--
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www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
But he does appear to be quite angry, doesn't he?


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Fortunately for Mooron since he has me in his killfile, he

thinks he's not
looking like an idiot right about now. :-)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:XSdzg.176831$S61.40708@edtnps90...
Scary... all that training, a title... and they can't

get out of their own
way let alone remember anything they were supposed to

know.

Tsk Tsk Tsk... Captain

Ganz...Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaaaa

CM-

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
a) A vessel at anchor shall exhibit where it can best

be
seen:

(i) in the fore part, an all-round white light or

one
ball;



(e) A vessel of less than 7 meters in length, when at

anchor
not in or near a narrow channel, fairway or where other
vessels normally navigate, shall not be required to

exhibit
the shape prescribed in paragraphs (a) and (b) of this

Rule.



http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknow...g/colregs.html



"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Isn't that related to size of vessel? I can't remember

and
it's late here.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Technically you should show an anchor ball, right?

SV

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
If the holding is good and you're only going to be
there a
short time, and
it's during the day, you don't need an anchor

light,
and
you don't need to
keep a watch. Why two anchors? Is the bottom that

lousy
or
the wind/current
shifting that much? How did you deploy?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"JimC" wrote in message


. com...
I wasn't thinking of using it at sea. What I had

in
mind
was anchoring
behind Red Fish Island, with two anchors, and

taking a
nap. I have one on
my Garmin chartplotter, but I think I need a

backup.

Jim


Joe wrote:
JimC wrote:

What's a good but inexpensive portable GPS that
includes an anchor alarm?

Jim


Any magellian GPS will work and show movement.

If you are on anchor or stopped at sea you need
someone
on watch. No if
and or butts about it.

Weather you are on anchor or tied to a rig

someone
needs to be awake
and on watch.

Joe







Joe wrote:


BB wrote:



Most new doctors get their REAL training amd
mentoring from Registered
Nurses. If your wife is an RN and works in a
hospital
setting, I'm
sure she can verify that for you. Rob is

correct
that
many MD's are
not as capable in emergency situations as many
nurses.


So that would be like "Capt Rob" learning from

a
real
cabin boy..right?


That doesn't


make them incompetent as Doctors. They just

have
different strengths
or areas of expertise. Some plumbers may also

have
carpentry skills,
and some anesthesiologists may have skills in
orthopedics. Critical
care and emergency room nurses tend to be
generalists, and are used to
making very quick and correct decisions on

life
and
death matters
under pressure.


Indeed they do...not a job I'd wan't to deal

with.
Pays pretty good.
High burnout average and turnover. I bet it's

high
stress if you have
passion towards the people you are treating.

Top
that
off with the
million plus people killed in Hospitals from
medical
mistakes a career
wrought with stress.

IMO Rob should publish that best seller, or

direct
a
block buster and
provide Suzy with a less stressfull life.

Joe




BB





















JimC July 31st 06 06:27 PM

Basic Safety Gear-You can't do better!
 


Joe wrote:
Capt.Mooron wrote:

"Joe" wrote in message


Was Peggy's Cove the place that had the gun-powder ship exploded and
destroyed the town?


That was Halifax..... the blast destroyed half of the entire city.



Ok, you guys had the Mont Blanc, we had the Grande Camp in Texas City.
Texas city is about 20 mi S. of me. Notice ....... they both were
French named ships.




Google Halifax Explosion.... then Google Peggy's Cove.... then Google Mahone
Bay.



http://www.woodenboatfestival.org/imgs/ps_header.jpg Like that clipper
bow, looks like a mini RedCloud hull.

Peggy's cove looks like my kind of place. Is most the fishing Lobster
fishing?



Wow sounds like fun fishing, love to hook up with a nice swordfish.
Not many people who post here know how to fish, or even talk about
fishing. Yet sailboats make the best trolling vessels on earth, I'm
rarely not trolling underway in the Gulf. We troll for King & Spanish
mackerel, Sailfish, Yellowfin & BluefinTuna, Dolphin, ling, White &
Blue Marlin.

I have a 1942 Dam Ocean 4040 on the original Dam pole. Makes Penn look
like junk.

Joe


Joe,

Have you trolled for Tarpon? I understand that they are feeding just
north of the north jetty, within five miles of shore.

Jim


Joe July 31st 06 06:45 PM

Basic Safety Gear-You can't do better!
 

JimC wrote:
Joe wrote:
Capt.Mooron wrote:

"Joe" wrote in message


Was Peggy's Cove the place that had the gun-powder ship exploded and
destroyed the town?

That was Halifax..... the blast destroyed half of the entire city.



Ok, you guys had the Mont Blanc, we had the Grande Camp in Texas City.
Texas city is about 20 mi S. of me. Notice ....... they both were
French named ships.




Google Halifax Explosion.... then Google Peggy's Cove.... then Google Mahone
Bay.



http://www.woodenboatfestival.org/imgs/ps_header.jpg Like that clipper
bow, looks like a mini RedCloud hull.

Peggy's cove looks like my kind of place. Is most the fishing Lobster
fishing?



Wow sounds like fun fishing, love to hook up with a nice swordfish.
Not many people who post here know how to fish, or even talk about
fishing. Yet sailboats make the best trolling vessels on earth, I'm
rarely not trolling underway in the Gulf. We troll for King & Spanish
mackerel, Sailfish, Yellowfin & BluefinTuna, Dolphin, ling, White &
Blue Marlin.

I have a 1942 Dam Ocean 4040 on the original Dam pole. Makes Penn look
like junk.

Joe


Joe,

Have you trolled for Tarpon? I understand that they are feeding just
north of the north jetty, within five miles of shore.

Jim


No havent went after Tarpon, but have caught a few over the years, also
called the Silver King.

joe


Capt.Mooron August 1st 06 04:36 AM

Basic Safety Gear-You can't do better!
 
I'll post a report if I catch anything more than a good buzz! :)

Peggy's Cove is a tourist trap now. It was a nice spot once. Narrow entrance
[20 yards wide]

CM

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...

Capt.Mooron wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

Was Peggy's Cove the place that had the gun-powder ship exploded and
destroyed the town?


That was Halifax..... the blast destroyed half of the entire city.


Ok, you guys had the Mont Blanc, we had the Grande Camp in Texas City.
Texas city is about 20 mi S. of me. Notice ....... they both were
French named ships.



Google Halifax Explosion.... then Google Peggy's Cove.... then Google
Mahone
Bay.


http://www.woodenboatfestival.org/imgs/ps_header.jpg Like that clipper
bow, looks like a mini RedCloud hull.

Peggy's cove looks like my kind of place. Is most the fishing Lobster
fishing?

Now Mahone Bay, I'd like to make the Pumpkin People Fesitval.

You trolling or stopping to fish?
What are you fishing for?


Running two sets, a Deep Troll & Shallow Troll - Mackerel, Halibut,
Swordfish, Cod, Pollock, Haddock and Hake.


Wow sounds like fun fishing, love to hook up with a nice swordfish.
Not many people who post here know how to fish, or even talk about
fishing. Yet sailboats make the best trolling vessels on earth, I'm
rarely not trolling underway in the Gulf. We troll for King & Spanish
mackerel, Sailfish, Yellowfin & BluefinTuna, Dolphin, ling, White &
Blue Marlin.

I have a 1942 Dam Ocean 4040 on the original Dam pole. Makes Penn look
like junk.

Joe

CM






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