"Joe" wrote:

Bob Crantz wrote:

Where is the good Capt anyway?

Still in Kansas. Meet some girl named Dorty.

Does she have ruby red shoes? I saw them at the Smithsonian Institution in
DC! I even have a photo around her somewhere...

LP

wrote:

Check this photo out... of an aircraft carrier doing a power turn:

http://mysite.verizon.net/res7pent/w...os2/index.html

Course I'm certain the navy crew was prepared for this... prior
to it's execution.

That's a very excellent picture, Bill. Thanks for sharing...;-)

LP

Joe wrote:
All your fancy instruments can do is tell when and how the ship turned,
unless you have a wheel sensor or a camera watching the helmsman just
how are they going to prove that he wipped the wheel two turns stbd, 4
Port then centered back up on course?


Wrong.

There would almost certainly be an autologging feature on
the helm servos & the switchgear would log the power
consumption on that circuit.

DSK

DSK wrote:
Joe wrote:
All your fancy instruments can do is tell when and how the ship turned,
unless you have a wheel sensor or a camera watching the helmsman just
how are they going to prove that he wipped the wheel two turns stbd, 4
Port then centered back up on course?


Wrong.

There would almost certainly be an autologging feature on
the helm servos & the switchgear would log the power
consumption on that circuit.

DSK

Huh?

Joe

Joe wrote:
DSK wrote:

Joe wrote:

All your fancy instruments can do is tell when and how the ship turned,
unless you have a wheel sensor or a camera watching the helmsman just
how are they going to prove that he wipped the wheel two turns stbd, 4
Port then centered back up on course?


Wrong.

There would almost certainly be an autologging feature on
the helm servos & the switchgear would log the power
consumption on that circuit.

DSK


Huh?

Joe

There would almost certainly be an autologging feature on
the helm servos & the switchgear would log the power
consumption on that circuit.


Joe wrote:
Huh?


It means that the exact time & amount of helm angle... down
to the tenth or hundredth of a second if desired... would be
part of a permanent record.

The helmsperson might be sneaky enough to fool a drowsy OOD
but there would be a bright & clear paper trail.

DSK

otnmbrd wrote:
Human error, generally rears it's ugly head, but there's still more to
it..... i.e., the system and the officer's training/experience, allowed this
"error" to occur.

otn


"Cap'n Crunch" wrote in message
. ..
Human error



http://www.wesh.com/news/9555476/detail.html



Cap'n Crunch




"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
Now when on the helm of the fat sam I had a very hard time inducing a
30 degree roll, lucky to get a 10 degree roll without getting caught,
and we were 11 decks abouve the waterline.

I guess the fat sam was not as top heavy as the carnival ship. I wonder
if the helmsmans was just FN with the passengers, or maybe they engaged
the autopilot on the wrong course.

Critical injuries....oh my. That ship looks extreamly top heavy, wonder
whats going to happen if it gets in a major storm, people are going to
be slapped back and forth between the bulkheads.

Joe





Gentlemen,

If you have any questions, I will be happy to answer. The ship, I can
only describe it this way, knuckled 3 times during the list.

Also think the list may have been more than 15 degrees, passenger
cabins and pubic area windows were in the ocean on the tilted side on
the 5th and 6th decks.

Regards,

Patty

Crown Passenger wrote:


Gentlemen,

If you have any questions, I will be happy to answer. The ship, I can
only describe it this way, knuckled 3 times during the list.

Also think the list may have been more than 15 degrees, passenger
cabins and pubic area windows were in the ocean on the tilted side on
the 5th and 6th decks.

Regards,

Patty

Were you aboard?
Did the ship list to stbd before port, or just one big list one way?

They said the Capt'n sounded terrorfied when he addressed the
passangers, Is that true?

Did they give you your money back?

Joe

"Joe" wrote
Crown Passenger wrote:
If you have any questions, I will be happy to answer.
The ship, I can
only describe it this way, knuckled 3 times during the
list.

Also think the list may have been more than 15 degrees,
passenger
cabins and pubic area windows were in the ocean on the
tilted side on
the 5th and 6th decks.

Regards,

Patty

Were you aboard?
Did the ship list to stbd before port, or just one big
list one way?

They said the Capt'n sounded terrorfied when he addressed
the
passangers, Is that true?

Did they give you your money back?


I talked to a man whose parents were aboard. They got a
full refund.

Scotty

Joe wrote:
Crown Passenger wrote:


Gentlemen,

If you have any questions, I will be happy to answer. The ship, I can
only describe it this way, knuckled 3 times during the list.

Also think the list may have been more than 15 degrees, passenger
cabins and pubic area windows were in the ocean on the tilted side on
the 5th and 6th decks.

Regards,

Patty

Were you aboard?

Yes I was.

Did the ship list to stbd before port, or just one big list one way?

Just to the one side ,with each knuckle it listed quicker.

They said the Capt'n sounded terrorfied when he addressed the
passangers, Is that true?

Absolutely.

Did they give you your money back?

Not yet but I am sure they will.

Joe