What? It's fact check it out.
No way would the UAE allow an infidel country like America to run a
port in the UAE.
NO WAY ........NO HOW.

Joe

I think there's some relevance, although not about the security issue. Seems
to me it's an open trade-like issue that should be examined. If they can own
a company here, why is it so difficult to open one there....

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On 24 Feb 2006 08:23:38 -0800, "Joe" said:

What? It's fact check it out.

And of utterly no relevance to the present issue.

I don't think it's a matter of protectionism. It's a matter of other
countries opening up their markets.


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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:28:35 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

I think there's some relevance, although not about the security issue.
Seems
to me it's an open trade-like issue that should be examined. If they can
own
a company here, why is it so difficult to open one there....

There are many countries of the world that are not nearly as open to
foreign
investment as we are. Whether we should be more protectionist in that
regard, and whether we should seek to restrict foreign investment as a
tool
for opening others' capital markets is a different discussion. Generally,
I
think the answer is no, but that general discussion has little to do with
the transaction under discussion, and it seems to me that the very act of
looking for such excuses weakens the claims of opponents of the
transaction.

"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

A third question, which has not been addressed to my
knowledge, is: are
there no American or non-Middle East firms that can
accomplish the same job,
and if so why was the British, now UAE, firm chosen over
the others? This
is a business question, not related to the two questions
you posed above.

Payoffs, shhhhhh....

W's secret is safe with me.

Max

This from a citizen of a country that does everything it can think of
to keep agricultural produce *out* of the USA.......

Ah, the irony.

PDW

In article , Capt. JG
wrote:

I don't think it's a matter of protectionism. It's a matter of other
countries opening up their markets.

In article , Scotty
wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote

Never heard of Dubai. I go to a P&O port about 4 times
a
month.

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/BUSINESS/02/21/port.europe/

When they say the port of Balt, or NJ, I wonder if it means
all of them, as there are several different ports within
each city. P&O is one of 5 'lines' inside Dundalk Marine
Terminal, which is one of 5 different ports in Balt.

I doubt most people know the difference between a port and a cargo
terminal in a port. Joe certainly doesn't.

They have to be talking about the terminals. The only time the 2 are
the same thing is when there is only 1 cargo terminal at a port.

PDW

Peter Wiley wrote:
This from a citizen of a country that does everything it can think of
to keep agricultural produce *out* of the USA.......

Ah, the irony.

PDW

In article , Capt. JG
wrote:


I don't think it's a matter of protectionism. It's a matter of other
countries opening up their markets.

We do import out-of-season produce from South America. And we grow
enough here to supply our own needs. Why would we import? Why
would I eat French or British apples when I can have a far superior
(I've seen what the Brits call apples) apple from Michigan, Oregon,
or Washington Why would we import potatoes from anywhere when you
can get 20 lbs. of Michigan, Maine, or Idaho potatoes for 2.99/bag?
Why would we import wheat, corn, or soy when we have acres upon
acres of our own? And why would we import produce from countries so
far away that the produce would have to be fixed with some type of
preservative so it didn't become overly ripe along the way? Not to
mention that the closer the fruit is to ripe on the vine, the more
nutrients there are in it, thus making some imports less valuable as
a food source? Why import beef when some countries have mad cow
disease and we don't and we have the ability to raise it ourselves?
We're a huge country, with many different climes and growing
seasons, unlike some countries that are limited by their latitude.
What do you want us to import that we don't already have? We are
even growing our own kiwi fruit now.

"katy" wrote in message
...
We do import out-of-season produce from South America.
And we grow
enough here to supply our own needs. Why would we import?
Why
would I eat French or British apples when I can have a far
superior
(I've seen what the Brits call apples) apple from
Michigan, Oregon,
or Washington Why would we import potatoes from anywhere
when you
can get 20 lbs. of Michigan, Maine, or Idaho potatoes for
2.99/bag?
Why would we import wheat, corn, or soy when we have
acres upon
acres of our own? And why would we import produce from
countries so
far away that the produce would have to be fixed with some
type of
preservative so it didn't become overly ripe along the
way? Not to
mention that the closer the fruit is to ripe on the vine,
the more
nutrients there are in it, thus making some imports less
valuable as
a food source? Why import beef when some countries have
mad cow
disease and we don't and we have the ability to raise it
ourselves?
We're a huge country, with many different climes and
growing
seasons, unlike some countries that are limited by their
latitude.
What do you want us to import that we don't already have?
We are
even growing our own kiwi fruit now.

Bananas?

Peter, compared to many (perhaps even most) other countries, we have far
more open markets. Sure, we're not perfect, especially given the current
administration, but we're not that bad either.

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"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..

This from a citizen of a country that does everything it can think of
to keep agricultural produce *out* of the USA.......

Ah, the irony.

PDW

In article , Capt. JG
wrote:

I don't think it's a matter of protectionism. It's a matter of other
countries opening up their markets.

katy wrote:
We do import out-of-season produce from South America.

And fruit
And fish
And lumber

... And we grow
enough here to supply our own needs. Why would we import?

Because it's cheaper and leaves more US land for parks &
preserves.

... Why would I
eat French or British apples when I can have a far superior (I've seen
what the Brits call apples) apple from Michigan, Oregon, or Washington

If you don't like what they call apples, don't ever take one
of what they call "cookies." I can eat them out of
politeness, but my wife can't.

BTW what's up with apples from New Zealand? They're pretty
good and usually they're about a dollar a pound... I would
think that doesn't even pay for shipping.

DSK