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katysails March 9th 05 12:27 PM

A final refoinder to the situation...
 
To set this all straight, this "war" started when LP began to send me Bible
tracts at my email address afterr I dressed up like a gypsy on Halloween for
the old folks....she then alluded that the message of those tracts had
something to do with God's displeasure with me and that punishment would be
forthcoming...this was in the advent of my granddaughter's accident...I
plonked her out of my personal email so I don't know if she continued to try
or not..I don't check my spam box...my allusions to her sons were to the
effect that what kind of woman leaves her kids at home to go sailing with
someone she doesn't know from a ng for 9 days? One kind, to my mind...but
that's namecalling and there's been enough of that. What I did say is that
her sons seemed to be lacking guidance...or maybe needed a father
figure...they certainly need someone if she's gone for 9 days at a time...I
did not impugn their mentality, their decision making, or any other personal
attribute. What I do impugn is her judgment as a mother. She's now residing
in the same cave that BB and BS and Ganz all share. I thought they'd like
the entertainment value...

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32

"Women and cats will do as they please..." (Heinlein)...and we don't really
care what the men and dogs think....(katy)



Bob Crantz March 9th 05 01:02 PM

You looked pretty hot in that gypsy outfit. Did any of those old codgers try
to cop a feel?

Amen!

Bob Crantz

"katysails" wrote in message
...
To set this all straight, this "war" started when LP began to send me

Bible
tracts at my email address afterr I dressed up like a gypsy on Halloween

for
the old folks....she then alluded that the message of those tracts had
something to do with God's displeasure with me and that punishment would

be
forthcoming...this was in the advent of my granddaughter's accident...I
plonked her out of my personal email so I don't know if she continued to

try
or not..I don't check my spam box...my allusions to her sons were to the
effect that what kind of woman leaves her kids at home to go sailing with
someone she doesn't know from a ng for 9 days? One kind, to my mind...but
that's namecalling and there's been enough of that. What I did say is

that
her sons seemed to be lacking guidance...or maybe needed a father
figure...they certainly need someone if she's gone for 9 days at a

time...I
did not impugn their mentality, their decision making, or any other

personal
attribute. What I do impugn is her judgment as a mother. She's now

residing
in the same cave that BB and BS and Ganz all share. I thought they'd like
the entertainment value...

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32

"Women and cats will do as they please..." (Heinlein)...and we don't

really
care what the men and dogs think....(katy)





Capt. Neal® March 9th 05 04:34 PM

I've heard some guy named Lloyd Bonafyde was trying to look up her dress . . .
Lloyd must be a mental case or something.

CN


"Bob Crantz" wrote in message ink.net...
You looked pretty hot in that gypsy outfit. Did any of those old codgers try
to cop a feel?

Amen!

Bob Crantz



Capt. Neal® March 9th 05 04:43 PM


"katysails" disengendered thusly:
snipped some
. . . that what kind of woman leaves her kids at home to go sailing with
someone she doesn't know from a ng for 9 days? One kind, to my mind...but
that's namecalling and there's been enough of that. snipped some more


Why are you so jealous of LP? Just because she took me up on my offer
to go sailing and you were too homebound to? LP loves her boys and she
spent days making arrangements so they would be properly supervised
and loved safe while she was out sailing.

One might wonder if you instilled in your progeny this abiding concern for
the well-being of their children? No harm came to LP's children while she
was out sailing. One might wonder what the parents of your granddaughter
were doing when the unfortunate accident occurred. Was *their* daughter
being properly supervised? Just a thought.

CN

Lady Pilot March 9th 05 07:12 PM


"katysails" wrote:
To set this all straight, this "war" started when LP began to send me
Bible tracts at my email address afterr I dressed up like a gypsy on
Halloween for the old folks....she then alluded that the message of those
tracts had something to do with God's displeasure with me and that
punishment would be forthcoming...this was in the advent of my
granddaughter's accident...


Yes, katysails, let's get this all straight, shall we?

You e-mailed me on 11-12-04 asking me to pray for your grand daughter, which
I did fervently. In only *one* e-mail on 11-15-04 I responded to your
e-mail about your gd with a couple of scriptures. Since you asked me to
pray, I just assumed you were a Christian.

On 11-20-04, I e-mailed katy to ask for an update on her gd. Katy replied
on 11-22-04 asking me and I quote, "keep praying, please."

The next correspondence with katy came on 12-22-04 when katy e-mailed me
comics on an e-mailed with the subject: The lighter side of the season,
which was also e-mailed to Scotty, Seahag and Flying Tadpole among others.

Then on 12-24-04 Katy e-mailed me with the subject: Merry Christmas, which
others named above were carbon copied, but this time included Peter Wiley
and Capt. Neal. I have all e-mails if anyone requires further proof of
katy's lies.

So tell me why Katy would continue to e-mail me if she was so offended about
a couple of scriptures from the Holy Bible I added to an e-mail? Wouldn't
it seem more likely that she would have started flaming me 11-01-04 instead
of after I went sailing on 2-10-05?

I plonked her out of my personal email so I don't know if she continued to
try or not..I don't check my spam box...


That's pretty funny, considering I never even answered your last e-mail to
me. lol

my allusions to her sons were to the effect that what kind of woman leaves
her kids at home to go sailing with someone she doesn't know from a ng for
9 days?


This shows what little you are aware of concerning Capt. Neal and I...

I would fill you in on the details, but it's none of your business. I will
say that Capt. Neal has been to my house, met my boys who adore him, not to
mention my friends. Even my ex-husband checked him out through law
enforcement and found that Capt. Neal has an impeccable record. So much for
your libel about the good Capt. on usenet!

So you are saying that for me to leave my boys with their biological aunt
(which has a masters degree at the university in Child Development) and
uncle, not to mention paternal grandparents (that leaped at the opportunity
to spend time with their grandson's, even after I returned home) that I'm
somehow not a fit parent?

I assure you that my son's weren't running the busy street's in front of
McDonald's, especially the 11 year old. Even my 15 year old doesn't get to
run the busy streets, unlike your grand daughter; I'm a better mother than
that.

One kind, to my mind...but that's namecalling and there's been enough of
that. What I did say is that her sons seemed to be lacking guidance...or
maybe needed a father figure...they certainly need someone if she's gone
for 9 days at a time...


Maybe your grand daughter needs a "father figure"?

I did not impugn their mentality, their decision making, or any other
personal attribute.


Sure you did, katy. Let's look on google on 2-20-05:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...b?dmode=source

Katy wrote:
I can understand, though, why someone trapped in Oklahoma
with a bunch of unruly high school boys would want to escape...even you must
have looked pretty good... end quote

So tell me katy, why would you say that my boys (who aren't in high school
yet) are unruly? That was an intentional lie right there, unless you can
point to something you know about my sons that I don't.

What I do impugn is her judgment as a mother. She's now residing in the
same cave that BB and BS and Ganz all share. I thought they'd like the
entertainment value...


Bwaawhawhaaaa! That's a lie also, I can tell just by reading your post that
you read every one of my posts and stewed about them all night long. BTW, I
don't know what a "refoinder" is as noted in the subject line of your
whinning post, but a *rejoinder* is usually considered a quick and witty
reply. I didn't see any of that in your final declaration of defeat in our
catfight.

LP



Maxprop March 9th 05 07:14 PM


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

"katysails" disengendered thusly: snipped
some
. . . that what kind of woman leaves her kids at home to go sailing with
someone she doesn't know from a ng for 9 days? One kind, to my
mind...but that's namecalling and there's been enough of that. snipped
some more


Why are you so jealous of LP? Just because she took me up on my offer
to go sailing and you were too homebound to?


This is so amusing as to be ridiculous. That Katy would be jealous of
anyone meeting you vis-a-vis is completely laughable. To the contrary, I
think Katy would be diligently avoiding meeting you at all costs. As for
homebound, you couldn't fill her husband's shoes, despite your 13 shoe size.

LP loves her boys and she
spent days making arrangements so they would be properly supervised and
loved safe while she was out sailing.
One might wonder if you instilled in your progeny this abiding concern for
the well-being of their children?


Knowing Katy as I do, I have no doubt she did precisely that.

No harm came to LP's children while she
was out sailing. One might wonder what the parents of your granddaughter
were doing when the unfortunate accident occurred. Was *their* daughter
being properly supervised? Just a thought.


Accidents happen. Only a card-carrying liberal would suspect culpability of
the parents in such events. Are you going to call Child Protective Services
and demand that Katy's grandchild be made a ward of the court, put in foster
care? Your left wing is showing, Neal.

Max



Lady Pilot March 9th 05 07:46 PM


"Maxprop" wrote:

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message


No harm came to LP's children while she
was out sailing. One might wonder what the parents of your granddaughter
were doing when the unfortunate accident occurred. Was *their* daughter
being properly supervised? Just a thought.


Accidents happen. Only a card-carrying liberal would suspect culpability
of the parents in such events.


How can an 11 year old run out on a busy street be an accident, Max?
Seriously, I would like to know so that I can protect my sons. Was the
mother there with her? Was granny supposed to be watching over her grand
daughter? It appears to me in this article that there was no adult
supervision, the child was running with 11 other students without
supervision.

The article:

Two girls hit by dump truck while crossing the street in Lowell

(Update, Lowell, November 12, 2004, 5:30 p.m.) Two Lowell girls are
hospitalized in intensive care Friday morning after being hit by an asphalt
dump truck.

The accident happened around 4:20 p.m. Thursday in front of a McDonald's
restaurant in the 1300 block of West Main Street.

Police say a group of seven pre-teen girls was crossing the road on its way
to McDonald's from the YMCA Teen Center. Five of those girls made it across
the street, but two of them, 13-year-old name deleted and 11-year-old
katy's grand daughter, did not as they were hit by an asphalt dump truck.

"One of the girls was injured and flown out by AeroMed, and the second girl
was transported by Rockford-Lowell Ambulance," said Lowell Police Chief Jim
Valentine.

The girls are in serious condition at DeVos Children's Hospital in Grand
Rapids, and 24 Hour News 8 understands they are showing signs of progress.

Investigators say early indicators suggest the driver of the truck,
46-year-old Robert Tarte, was not speeding, and skid marks indicate he tried
to avoid hitting the girls.

"The preliminary skid accident speed estimates the vehicle at less than 40
miler per hour, so we don't feel speed was a contributing factor," said
Chief Valentine.

A much safer and less dangerous crosswalk is located about 250 feet from
where the accident happened. Police and YMCA officials are going to teach
teens about safety when it comes to crossing the street.

"Caution has got to be paramount," said Lowell Police Sergeant Stephen
Junewick.

He plans to visit schools with news footage of the accident illustrating how
crossing five lanes of traffic and darting in front of cars can lead to
disaster.

"When you walk across in an inappropriate manner, you're taking your life in
your own hands," he said.

"So, it's just been a real blessing that these two young girls were struck
by a 60,000 pound dump truck and survived that particular crash," said Chief
Valentine.

Lowell Police officials say they will turn over the results of their
investigation to the Kent County prosecutor's office. But at this point in
time, Chief Valentine says it doesn't appear the truck driver did anything
wrong. end quote

Are you going to call Child Protective Services and demand that Katy's
grandchild be made a ward of the court, put in foster care?


I doubt if Child Protective Services would care nowadays. I see children
running the streets all the time, while their parents are too absorbed with
making another buck so they can buy a bigger, nicer sailboat or some other
expensive hobby instead of being the parents that they are supposed to be.

LP



Lady Pilot March 9th 05 07:48 PM

It appears to me in this article that there was no adult supervision, the
child was running with 11 other students without supervision.


Oops! I mean seven other students.



Lonny Bruce March 9th 05 10:07 PM

LP wrote (or did she?): Bwaawhawhaaaa! That's a lie also, I can tell just
by reading your post that
you read every one of my posts and stewed about them all night long. BTW, I
don't know what a "refoinder" is as noted in the subject line of your
whinning post, but a *rejoinder* is usually considered a quick and witty
reply. I didn't see any of that in your final declaration of defeat in our
catfight.


That sure smacks of Capt. Neal to me. Are you sure he didn't write that
paragraph for you? Neal in a cat fight! Neal in a cat fight!

L

--
Enjoy my new sailing web site
http://sail247.com
"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:KUHXd.8$N15.5@okepread06...

"katysails" wrote:
To set this all straight, this "war" started when LP began to send me
Bible tracts at my email address afterr I dressed up like a gypsy on
Halloween for the old folks....she then alluded that the message of those
tracts had something to do with God's displeasure with me and that
punishment would be forthcoming...this was in the advent of my
granddaughter's accident...


Yes, katysails, let's get this all straight, shall we?

You e-mailed me on 11-12-04 asking me to pray for your grand daughter,
which I did fervently. In only *one* e-mail on 11-15-04 I responded to
your e-mail about your gd with a couple of scriptures. Since you asked me
to pray, I just assumed you were a Christian.

On 11-20-04, I e-mailed katy to ask for an update on her gd. Katy replied
on 11-22-04 asking me and I quote, "keep praying, please."

The next correspondence with katy came on 12-22-04 when katy e-mailed me
comics on an e-mailed with the subject: The lighter side of the season,
which was also e-mailed to Scotty, Seahag and Flying Tadpole among others.

Then on 12-24-04 Katy e-mailed me with the subject: Merry Christmas,
which others named above were carbon copied, but this time included Peter
Wiley and Capt. Neal. I have all e-mails if anyone requires further proof
of katy's lies.

So tell me why Katy would continue to e-mail me if she was so offended
about a couple of scriptures from the Holy Bible I added to an e-mail?
Wouldn't it seem more likely that she would have started flaming me
11-01-04 instead of after I went sailing on 2-10-05?

I plonked her out of my personal email so I don't know if she continued to
try or not..I don't check my spam box...


That's pretty funny, considering I never even answered your last e-mail to
me. lol

my allusions to her sons were to the effect that what kind of woman leaves
her kids at home to go sailing with someone she doesn't know from a ng for
9 days?


This shows what little you are aware of concerning Capt. Neal and I...

I would fill you in on the details, but it's none of your business. I
will say that Capt. Neal has been to my house, met my boys who adore him,
not to mention my friends. Even my ex-husband checked him out through law
enforcement and found that Capt. Neal has an impeccable record. So much
for your libel about the good Capt. on usenet!

So you are saying that for me to leave my boys with their biological aunt
(which has a masters degree at the university in Child Development) and
uncle, not to mention paternal grandparents (that leaped at the
opportunity to spend time with their grandson's, even after I returned
home) that I'm somehow not a fit parent?

I assure you that my son's weren't running the busy street's in front of
McDonald's, especially the 11 year old. Even my 15 year old doesn't get
to run the busy streets, unlike your grand daughter; I'm a better mother
than that.

One kind, to my mind...but that's namecalling and there's been enough of
that. What I did say is that her sons seemed to be lacking guidance...or
maybe needed a father figure...they certainly need someone if she's gone
for 9 days at a time...


Maybe your grand daughter needs a "father figure"?

I did not impugn their mentality, their decision making, or any other
personal attribute.


Sure you did, katy. Let's look on google on 2-20-05:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...b?dmode=source

Katy wrote:
I can understand, though, why someone trapped in Oklahoma
with a bunch of unruly high school boys would want to escape...even you
must
have looked pretty good... end quote

So tell me katy, why would you say that my boys (who aren't in high school
yet) are unruly? That was an intentional lie right there, unless you can
point to something you know about my sons that I don't.

What I do impugn is her judgment as a mother. She's now residing in the
same cave that BB and BS and Ganz all share. I thought they'd like the
entertainment value...


Bwaawhawhaaaa! That's a lie also, I can tell just by reading your post
that you read every one of my posts and stewed about them all night long.
BTW, I don't know what a "refoinder" is as noted in the subject line of
your whinning post, but a *rejoinder* is usually considered a quick and
witty reply. I didn't see any of that in your final declaration of defeat
in our catfight.

LP




Capt. Neal® March 9th 05 11:41 PM


"Maxprop" emoted thusly:

Accidents happen. Only a card-carrying liberal would suspect culpability of
the parents in such events. Are you going to call Child Protective Services
and demand that Katy's grandchild be made a ward of the court, put in foster
care? Your left wing is showing, Neal.


As usual, you missed the point.

The point of my post was calling to Katy's attention the hypocrisy of her
accusing LP of being an irresponsible parent when, in fact, it appears
Katy's granddaughter's parents might be accused of the same?

Could the projection theory be correct, after all?

CN

Capt. Mooron March 10th 05 12:41 AM

Cluck Cluck Cluck Cluck...SQWACK!!!
**** **** **** ****...****-OFF!!

The pair of you should be kicked out of the Men's Club for gross hen
pecking!

Good Grief!!

Buck Up!

CM

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

"Maxprop" emoted thusly:

Accidents happen. Only a card-carrying liberal would suspect culpability
of the parents in such events. Are you going to call Child Protective
Services and demand that Katy's grandchild be made a ward of the court,
put in foster care? Your left wing is showing, Neal.


As usual, you missed the point.
The point of my post was calling to Katy's attention the hypocrisy of her
accusing LP of being an irresponsible parent when, in fact, it appears
Katy's granddaughter's parents might be accused of the same?
Could the projection theory be correct, after all?

CN




Bob Crantz March 10th 05 01:50 AM

kATY DIDN'T SEND ME ANY cHRISTMAS EMAIL THIS YEAR AT ALL.

I am so let down and disappointed.

So sad....

Bob Crantz

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:KUHXd.8$N15.5@okepread06...

"katysails" wrote:
To set this all straight, this "war" started when LP began to send me
Bible tracts at my email address afterr I dressed up like a gypsy on
Halloween for the old folks....she then alluded that the message of

those
tracts had something to do with God's displeasure with me and that
punishment would be forthcoming...this was in the advent of my
granddaughter's accident...


Yes, katysails, let's get this all straight, shall we?

You e-mailed me on 11-12-04 asking me to pray for your grand daughter,

which
I did fervently. In only *one* e-mail on 11-15-04 I responded to your
e-mail about your gd with a couple of scriptures. Since you asked me to
pray, I just assumed you were a Christian.

On 11-20-04, I e-mailed katy to ask for an update on her gd. Katy replied
on 11-22-04 asking me and I quote, "keep praying, please."

The next correspondence with katy came on 12-22-04 when katy e-mailed me
comics on an e-mailed with the subject: The lighter side of the season,
which was also e-mailed to Scotty, Seahag and Flying Tadpole among others.

Then on 12-24-04 Katy e-mailed me with the subject: Merry Christmas,

which
others named above were carbon copied, but this time included Peter Wiley
and Capt. Neal. I have all e-mails if anyone requires further proof of
katy's lies.

So tell me why Katy would continue to e-mail me if she was so offended

about
a couple of scriptures from the Holy Bible I added to an e-mail? Wouldn't
it seem more likely that she would have started flaming me 11-01-04

instead
of after I went sailing on 2-10-05?

I plonked her out of my personal email so I don't know if she continued

to
try or not..I don't check my spam box...


That's pretty funny, considering I never even answered your last e-mail to
me. lol

my allusions to her sons were to the effect that what kind of woman

leaves
her kids at home to go sailing with someone she doesn't know from a ng

for
9 days?


This shows what little you are aware of concerning Capt. Neal and I...

I would fill you in on the details, but it's none of your business. I

will
say that Capt. Neal has been to my house, met my boys who adore him, not

to
mention my friends. Even my ex-husband checked him out through law
enforcement and found that Capt. Neal has an impeccable record. So much

for
your libel about the good Capt. on usenet!

So you are saying that for me to leave my boys with their biological aunt
(which has a masters degree at the university in Child Development) and
uncle, not to mention paternal grandparents (that leaped at the

opportunity
to spend time with their grandson's, even after I returned home) that I'm
somehow not a fit parent?

I assure you that my son's weren't running the busy street's in front of
McDonald's, especially the 11 year old. Even my 15 year old doesn't get

to
run the busy streets, unlike your grand daughter; I'm a better mother

than
that.

One kind, to my mind...but that's namecalling and there's been enough

of
that. What I did say is that her sons seemed to be lacking

guidance...or
maybe needed a father figure...they certainly need someone if she's gone
for 9 days at a time...


Maybe your grand daughter needs a "father figure"?

I did not impugn their mentality, their decision making, or any other
personal attribute.


Sure you did, katy. Let's look on google on 2-20-05:


http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...b?dmode=source

Katy wrote:
I can understand, though, why someone trapped in Oklahoma
with a bunch of unruly high school boys would want to escape...even you

must
have looked pretty good... end quote

So tell me katy, why would you say that my boys (who aren't in high school
yet) are unruly? That was an intentional lie right there, unless you can
point to something you know about my sons that I don't.

What I do impugn is her judgment as a mother. She's now residing in the
same cave that BB and BS and Ganz all share. I thought they'd like the
entertainment value...


Bwaawhawhaaaa! That's a lie also, I can tell just by reading your post

that
you read every one of my posts and stewed about them all night long. BTW,

I
don't know what a "refoinder" is as noted in the subject line of your
whinning post, but a *rejoinder* is usually considered a quick and witty
reply. I didn't see any of that in your final declaration of defeat in

our
catfight.

LP





katysails March 10th 05 03:10 AM

Oh I'm so sorry, Gilly! I will send you an Easter mail to make up for it!
Maybe I'll even find another beehive for you.

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
nk.net...
kATY DIDN'T SEND ME ANY cHRISTMAS EMAIL THIS YEAR AT ALL.

I am so let down and disappointed.

So sad....

Bob Crantz

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:KUHXd.8$N15.5@okepread06...

"katysails" wrote:
To set this all straight, this "war" started when LP began to send me
Bible tracts at my email address afterr I dressed up like a gypsy on
Halloween for the old folks....she then alluded that the message of

those
tracts had something to do with God's displeasure with me and that
punishment would be forthcoming...this was in the advent of my
granddaughter's accident...


Yes, katysails, let's get this all straight, shall we?

You e-mailed me on 11-12-04 asking me to pray for your grand daughter,

which
I did fervently. In only *one* e-mail on 11-15-04 I responded to your
e-mail about your gd with a couple of scriptures. Since you asked me to
pray, I just assumed you were a Christian.

On 11-20-04, I e-mailed katy to ask for an update on her gd. Katy
replied
on 11-22-04 asking me and I quote, "keep praying, please."

The next correspondence with katy came on 12-22-04 when katy e-mailed me
comics on an e-mailed with the subject: The lighter side of the season,
which was also e-mailed to Scotty, Seahag and Flying Tadpole among
others.

Then on 12-24-04 Katy e-mailed me with the subject: Merry Christmas,

which
others named above were carbon copied, but this time included Peter Wiley
and Capt. Neal. I have all e-mails if anyone requires further proof of
katy's lies.

So tell me why Katy would continue to e-mail me if she was so offended

about
a couple of scriptures from the Holy Bible I added to an e-mail?
Wouldn't
it seem more likely that she would have started flaming me 11-01-04

instead
of after I went sailing on 2-10-05?

I plonked her out of my personal email so I don't know if she continued

to
try or not..I don't check my spam box...


That's pretty funny, considering I never even answered your last e-mail
to
me. lol

my allusions to her sons were to the effect that what kind of woman

leaves
her kids at home to go sailing with someone she doesn't know from a ng

for
9 days?


This shows what little you are aware of concerning Capt. Neal and I...

I would fill you in on the details, but it's none of your business. I

will
say that Capt. Neal has been to my house, met my boys who adore him, not

to
mention my friends. Even my ex-husband checked him out through law
enforcement and found that Capt. Neal has an impeccable record. So much

for
your libel about the good Capt. on usenet!

So you are saying that for me to leave my boys with their biological aunt
(which has a masters degree at the university in Child Development) and
uncle, not to mention paternal grandparents (that leaped at the

opportunity
to spend time with their grandson's, even after I returned home) that I'm
somehow not a fit parent?

I assure you that my son's weren't running the busy street's in front of
McDonald's, especially the 11 year old. Even my 15 year old doesn't get

to
run the busy streets, unlike your grand daughter; I'm a better mother

than
that.

One kind, to my mind...but that's namecalling and there's been enough

of
that. What I did say is that her sons seemed to be lacking

guidance...or
maybe needed a father figure...they certainly need someone if she's
gone
for 9 days at a time...


Maybe your grand daughter needs a "father figure"?

I did not impugn their mentality, their decision making, or any other
personal attribute.


Sure you did, katy. Let's look on google on 2-20-05:


http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...b?dmode=source

Katy wrote:
I can understand, though, why someone trapped in Oklahoma
with a bunch of unruly high school boys would want to escape...even you

must
have looked pretty good... end quote

So tell me katy, why would you say that my boys (who aren't in high
school
yet) are unruly? That was an intentional lie right there, unless you can
point to something you know about my sons that I don't.

What I do impugn is her judgment as a mother. She's now residing in
the
same cave that BB and BS and Ganz all share. I thought they'd like the
entertainment value...


Bwaawhawhaaaa! That's a lie also, I can tell just by reading your post

that
you read every one of my posts and stewed about them all night long.
BTW,

I
don't know what a "refoinder" is as noted in the subject line of your
whinning post, but a *rejoinder* is usually considered a quick and witty
reply. I didn't see any of that in your final declaration of defeat in

our
catfight.

LP







katysails March 10th 05 03:18 AM

Actually, Neal, Madi was in the YMCA after school program. They allowed her
to leave with another parent's consent, not my daughter's...there is a
lawsuit pending for that....not that I owe you any explanations...the family
has suffered enough, but you, sir, wouldn't know anything about that since
you have no family and if you did, would certainly have been cast from its'
numbers well before this...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

"Maxprop" emoted thusly:

Accidents happen. Only a card-carrying liberal would suspect culpability
of the parents in such events. Are you going to call Child Protective
Services and demand that Katy's grandchild be made a ward of the court,
put in foster care? Your left wing is showing, Neal.


As usual, you missed the point.
The point of my post was calling to Katy's attention the hypocrisy of her
accusing LP of being an irresponsible parent when, in fact, it appears
Katy's granddaughter's parents might be accused of the same?
Could the projection theory be correct, after all?

CN




Bob Crantz March 10th 05 03:26 AM

I felt so left out...

Rejected by the essence of purity and feminimity...

But now I feel better. You must of been having a case of the vapors just
before Christmas.

Bob Crantz

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Oh I'm so sorry, Gilly! I will send you an Easter mail to make up for it!
Maybe I'll even find another beehive for you.

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
nk.net...
kATY DIDN'T SEND ME ANY cHRISTMAS EMAIL THIS YEAR AT ALL.

I am so let down and disappointed.

So sad....

Bob Crantz

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:KUHXd.8$N15.5@okepread06...

"katysails" wrote:
To set this all straight, this "war" started when LP began to send me
Bible tracts at my email address afterr I dressed up like a gypsy on
Halloween for the old folks....she then alluded that the message of

those
tracts had something to do with God's displeasure with me and that
punishment would be forthcoming...this was in the advent of my
granddaughter's accident...

Yes, katysails, let's get this all straight, shall we?

You e-mailed me on 11-12-04 asking me to pray for your grand daughter,

which
I did fervently. In only *one* e-mail on 11-15-04 I responded to your
e-mail about your gd with a couple of scriptures. Since you asked me

to
pray, I just assumed you were a Christian.

On 11-20-04, I e-mailed katy to ask for an update on her gd. Katy
replied
on 11-22-04 asking me and I quote, "keep praying, please."

The next correspondence with katy came on 12-22-04 when katy e-mailed

me
comics on an e-mailed with the subject: The lighter side of the

season,
which was also e-mailed to Scotty, Seahag and Flying Tadpole among
others.

Then on 12-24-04 Katy e-mailed me with the subject: Merry Christmas,

which
others named above were carbon copied, but this time included Peter

Wiley
and Capt. Neal. I have all e-mails if anyone requires further proof of
katy's lies.

So tell me why Katy would continue to e-mail me if she was so offended

about
a couple of scriptures from the Holy Bible I added to an e-mail?
Wouldn't
it seem more likely that she would have started flaming me 11-01-04

instead
of after I went sailing on 2-10-05?

I plonked her out of my personal email so I don't know if she

continued
to
try or not..I don't check my spam box...

That's pretty funny, considering I never even answered your last e-mail
to
me. lol

my allusions to her sons were to the effect that what kind of woman

leaves
her kids at home to go sailing with someone she doesn't know from a ng

for
9 days?

This shows what little you are aware of concerning Capt. Neal and I...

I would fill you in on the details, but it's none of your business. I

will
say that Capt. Neal has been to my house, met my boys who adore him,

not
to
mention my friends. Even my ex-husband checked him out through law
enforcement and found that Capt. Neal has an impeccable record. So

much
for
your libel about the good Capt. on usenet!

So you are saying that for me to leave my boys with their biological

aunt
(which has a masters degree at the university in Child Development) and
uncle, not to mention paternal grandparents (that leaped at the

opportunity
to spend time with their grandson's, even after I returned home) that

I'm
somehow not a fit parent?

I assure you that my son's weren't running the busy street's in front

of
McDonald's, especially the 11 year old. Even my 15 year old doesn't

get
to
run the busy streets, unlike your grand daughter; I'm a better mother

than
that.

One kind, to my mind...but that's namecalling and there's been

enough
of
that. What I did say is that her sons seemed to be lacking

guidance...or
maybe needed a father figure...they certainly need someone if she's
gone
for 9 days at a time...

Maybe your grand daughter needs a "father figure"?

I did not impugn their mentality, their decision making, or any other
personal attribute.

Sure you did, katy. Let's look on google on 2-20-05:



http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...b?dmode=source

Katy wrote:
I can understand, though, why someone trapped in Oklahoma
with a bunch of unruly high school boys would want to escape...even you

must
have looked pretty good... end quote

So tell me katy, why would you say that my boys (who aren't in high
school
yet) are unruly? That was an intentional lie right there, unless you

can
point to something you know about my sons that I don't.

What I do impugn is her judgment as a mother. She's now residing in
the
same cave that BB and BS and Ganz all share. I thought they'd like

the
entertainment value...

Bwaawhawhaaaa! That's a lie also, I can tell just by reading your post

that
you read every one of my posts and stewed about them all night long.
BTW,

I
don't know what a "refoinder" is as noted in the subject line of your
whinning post, but a *rejoinder* is usually considered a quick and

witty
reply. I didn't see any of that in your final declaration of defeat in

our
catfight.

LP









katysails March 10th 05 03:42 AM

Not rejected...never rejected....I didn't snail mail Christmas cards this
year, either....Do you want a St Paddy's Day card?

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
k.net...
I felt so left out...

Rejected by the essence of purity and feminimity...

But now I feel better. You must of been having a case of the vapors just
before Christmas.

Bob Crantz

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Oh I'm so sorry, Gilly! I will send you an Easter mail to make up for
it!
Maybe I'll even find another beehive for you.

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
nk.net...
kATY DIDN'T SEND ME ANY cHRISTMAS EMAIL THIS YEAR AT ALL.

I am so let down and disappointed.

So sad....

Bob Crantz

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:KUHXd.8$N15.5@okepread06...

"katysails" wrote:
To set this all straight, this "war" started when LP began to send
me
Bible tracts at my email address afterr I dressed up like a gypsy on
Halloween for the old folks....she then alluded that the message of
those
tracts had something to do with God's displeasure with me and that
punishment would be forthcoming...this was in the advent of my
granddaughter's accident...

Yes, katysails, let's get this all straight, shall we?

You e-mailed me on 11-12-04 asking me to pray for your grand daughter,
which
I did fervently. In only *one* e-mail on 11-15-04 I responded to your
e-mail about your gd with a couple of scriptures. Since you asked me

to
pray, I just assumed you were a Christian.

On 11-20-04, I e-mailed katy to ask for an update on her gd. Katy
replied
on 11-22-04 asking me and I quote, "keep praying, please."

The next correspondence with katy came on 12-22-04 when katy e-mailed

me
comics on an e-mailed with the subject: The lighter side of the

season,
which was also e-mailed to Scotty, Seahag and Flying Tadpole among
others.

Then on 12-24-04 Katy e-mailed me with the subject: Merry Christmas,
which
others named above were carbon copied, but this time included Peter

Wiley
and Capt. Neal. I have all e-mails if anyone requires further proof
of
katy's lies.

So tell me why Katy would continue to e-mail me if she was so offended
about
a couple of scriptures from the Holy Bible I added to an e-mail?
Wouldn't
it seem more likely that she would have started flaming me 11-01-04
instead
of after I went sailing on 2-10-05?

I plonked her out of my personal email so I don't know if she

continued
to
try or not..I don't check my spam box...

That's pretty funny, considering I never even answered your last
e-mail
to
me. lol

my allusions to her sons were to the effect that what kind of woman
leaves
her kids at home to go sailing with someone she doesn't know from a
ng
for
9 days?

This shows what little you are aware of concerning Capt. Neal and I...

I would fill you in on the details, but it's none of your business. I
will
say that Capt. Neal has been to my house, met my boys who adore him,

not
to
mention my friends. Even my ex-husband checked him out through law
enforcement and found that Capt. Neal has an impeccable record. So

much
for
your libel about the good Capt. on usenet!

So you are saying that for me to leave my boys with their biological

aunt
(which has a masters degree at the university in Child Development)
and
uncle, not to mention paternal grandparents (that leaped at the
opportunity
to spend time with their grandson's, even after I returned home) that

I'm
somehow not a fit parent?

I assure you that my son's weren't running the busy street's in front

of
McDonald's, especially the 11 year old. Even my 15 year old doesn't

get
to
run the busy streets, unlike your grand daughter; I'm a better mother
than
that.

One kind, to my mind...but that's namecalling and there's been

enough
of
that. What I did say is that her sons seemed to be lacking
guidance...or
maybe needed a father figure...they certainly need someone if she's
gone
for 9 days at a time...

Maybe your grand daughter needs a "father figure"?

I did not impugn their mentality, their decision making, or any other
personal attribute.

Sure you did, katy. Let's look on google on 2-20-05:



http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...b?dmode=source

Katy wrote:
I can understand, though, why someone trapped in Oklahoma
with a bunch of unruly high school boys would want to escape...even
you
must
have looked pretty good... end quote

So tell me katy, why would you say that my boys (who aren't in high
school
yet) are unruly? That was an intentional lie right there, unless you

can
point to something you know about my sons that I don't.

What I do impugn is her judgment as a mother. She's now residing in
the
same cave that BB and BS and Ganz all share. I thought they'd like

the
entertainment value...

Bwaawhawhaaaa! That's a lie also, I can tell just by reading your
post
that
you read every one of my posts and stewed about them all night long.
BTW,
I
don't know what a "refoinder" is as noted in the subject line of your
whinning post, but a *rejoinder* is usually considered a quick and

witty
reply. I didn't see any of that in your final declaration of defeat
in
our
catfight.

LP











Jonathan Ganz March 10th 05 06:01 AM

In article ,
katysails wrote:
To set this all straight, this "war" started when LP began to send me Bible
tracts at my email address afterr I dressed up like a gypsy on Halloween for
the old folks....she then alluded that the message of those tracts had
something to do with God's displeasure with me and that punishment would be
forthcoming...this was in the advent of my granddaughter's accident...I
plonked her out of my personal email so I don't know if she continued to try
or not..I don't check my spam box...my allusions to her sons were to the
effect that what kind of woman leaves her kids at home to go sailing with
someone she doesn't know from a ng for 9 days? One kind, to my mind...but
that's namecalling and there's been enough of that. What I did say is that
her sons seemed to be lacking guidance...or maybe needed a father
figure...they certainly need someone if she's gone for 9 days at a time...I
did not impugn their mentality, their decision making, or any other personal
attribute. What I do impugn is her judgment as a mother. She's now residing
in the same cave that BB and BS and Ganz all share. I thought they'd like
the entertainment value...


SO, what you're really saying is that it's ok for Neal and Joey and
Mooron and Scotti Potti and Horass to spew filth, but it's not ok to
defend oneself. I think LP was right. You ARE a hypocrite. You're both
losers, apparently. That' puts you in the same category as the
above-mentioned. Got it.



--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz March 10th 05 06:04 AM

In article kJMXd.23607$fc4.19216@edtnps89,
Capt. Mooron wrote:
Cluck Cluck Cluck Cluck...SQWACK!!!
**** **** **** ****...****-OFF!!

The pair of you should be kicked out of the Men's Club for gross hen
pecking!

Good Grief!!

Buck Up!


Yup, it's Chicken Man Mooron. BWAHAHAHAHAHAH
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Scout March 10th 05 10:40 AM

Neal, the pain of rejection will lessen only when you quit reopening the
wound.
Scout

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
I've heard some guy named Lloyd Bonafyde was trying to look up her dress .
. .
Lloyd must be a mental case or something.

CN


"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
ink.net...
You looked pretty hot in that gypsy outfit. Did any of those old codgers
try
to cop a feel?

Amen!

Bob Crantz





Horvath March 10th 05 12:04 PM

On 9 Mar 2005 22:01:56 -0800, lid (Jonathan Ganz)
wrote this crap:



SO, what you're really saying is that it's ok for Neal and Joey and
Mooron and Scotti Potti and Horass to spew filth, but it's not ok to
defend oneself. I think LP was right. You ARE a hypocrite. You're both
losers, apparently. That' puts you in the same category as the
above-mentioned. Got it.



Grow up, you baby. It's a big world, and someday you'll have to start
acting like a big girl.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Bob Crantz March 10th 05 03:51 PM

That would be so nice.

I'll send you a card that has the real Babs Johnson on it plus Blondie with
a mega beehive, Sonny Bono, Jerry Stiller and, .....drum roll please.....
Rikki Lake at her heaviest! This is too good for just one person... no
wait... I'll share it with everyone . Stay tuned or burn in hell!

Amen!

Bob Crantz

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Not rejected...never rejected....I didn't snail mail Christmas cards this
year, either....Do you want a St Paddy's Day card?

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
k.net...
I felt so left out...

Rejected by the essence of purity and feminimity...

But now I feel better. You must of been having a case of the vapors just
before Christmas.

Bob Crantz

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Oh I'm so sorry, Gilly! I will send you an Easter mail to make up for
it!
Maybe I'll even find another beehive for you.

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
nk.net...
kATY DIDN'T SEND ME ANY cHRISTMAS EMAIL THIS YEAR AT ALL.

I am so let down and disappointed.

So sad....

Bob Crantz

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:KUHXd.8$N15.5@okepread06...

"katysails" wrote:
To set this all straight, this "war" started when LP began to send
me
Bible tracts at my email address afterr I dressed up like a gypsy

on
Halloween for the old folks....she then alluded that the message

of
those
tracts had something to do with God's displeasure with me and that
punishment would be forthcoming...this was in the advent of my
granddaughter's accident...

Yes, katysails, let's get this all straight, shall we?

You e-mailed me on 11-12-04 asking me to pray for your grand

daughter,
which
I did fervently. In only *one* e-mail on 11-15-04 I responded to

your
e-mail about your gd with a couple of scriptures. Since you asked

me
to
pray, I just assumed you were a Christian.

On 11-20-04, I e-mailed katy to ask for an update on her gd. Katy
replied
on 11-22-04 asking me and I quote, "keep praying, please."

The next correspondence with katy came on 12-22-04 when katy

e-mailed
me
comics on an e-mailed with the subject: The lighter side of the

season,
which was also e-mailed to Scotty, Seahag and Flying Tadpole among
others.

Then on 12-24-04 Katy e-mailed me with the subject: Merry

Christmas,
which
others named above were carbon copied, but this time included Peter

Wiley
and Capt. Neal. I have all e-mails if anyone requires further proof
of
katy's lies.

So tell me why Katy would continue to e-mail me if she was so

offended
about
a couple of scriptures from the Holy Bible I added to an e-mail?
Wouldn't
it seem more likely that she would have started flaming me 11-01-04
instead
of after I went sailing on 2-10-05?

I plonked her out of my personal email so I don't know if she

continued
to
try or not..I don't check my spam box...

That's pretty funny, considering I never even answered your last
e-mail
to
me. lol

my allusions to her sons were to the effect that what kind of woman
leaves
her kids at home to go sailing with someone she doesn't know from a
ng
for
9 days?

This shows what little you are aware of concerning Capt. Neal and

I...

I would fill you in on the details, but it's none of your business.

I
will
say that Capt. Neal has been to my house, met my boys who adore him,

not
to
mention my friends. Even my ex-husband checked him out through law
enforcement and found that Capt. Neal has an impeccable record. So

much
for
your libel about the good Capt. on usenet!

So you are saying that for me to leave my boys with their biological

aunt
(which has a masters degree at the university in Child Development)
and
uncle, not to mention paternal grandparents (that leaped at the
opportunity
to spend time with their grandson's, even after I returned home)

that
I'm
somehow not a fit parent?

I assure you that my son's weren't running the busy street's in

front
of
McDonald's, especially the 11 year old. Even my 15 year old doesn't

get
to
run the busy streets, unlike your grand daughter; I'm a better

mother
than
that.

One kind, to my mind...but that's namecalling and there's been

enough
of
that. What I did say is that her sons seemed to be lacking
guidance...or
maybe needed a father figure...they certainly need someone if

she's
gone
for 9 days at a time...

Maybe your grand daughter needs a "father figure"?

I did not impugn their mentality, their decision making, or any

other
personal attribute.

Sure you did, katy. Let's look on google on 2-20-05:




http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...b?dmode=source

Katy wrote:
I can understand, though, why someone trapped in Oklahoma
with a bunch of unruly high school boys would want to escape...even
you
must
have looked pretty good... end quote

So tell me katy, why would you say that my boys (who aren't in high
school
yet) are unruly? That was an intentional lie right there, unless

you
can
point to something you know about my sons that I don't.

What I do impugn is her judgment as a mother. She's now residing

in
the
same cave that BB and BS and Ganz all share. I thought they'd

like
the
entertainment value...

Bwaawhawhaaaa! That's a lie also, I can tell just by reading your
post
that
you read every one of my posts and stewed about them all night long.
BTW,
I
don't know what a "refoinder" is as noted in the subject line of

your
whinning post, but a *rejoinder* is usually considered a quick and

witty
reply. I didn't see any of that in your final declaration of defeat
in
our
catfight.

LP













Scott Vernon March 10th 05 04:47 PM


"Horvath" wrote


Grow up, you baby. It's a big world, and someday you'll have to

start
acting like a big girl.



In Jon's defense, he has been 'practicing'.






Scott Vernon March 10th 05 04:51 PM


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote

SO, what you're really saying is that it's ok for Neal and Joey and
Mooron and Scotti Potti and Horass to spew filth,



YES. As long as the filth is true.







Scott Vernon March 10th 05 05:04 PM

I got mine. :p~

Scotty

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
k.net...
I felt so left out...

Rejected by the essence of purity and feminimity...

But now I feel better. You must of been having a case of the vapors

just
before Christmas.

Bob Crantz





Capt. Neal® March 10th 05 08:58 PM



I think I get it now.

Your daughter, Madi's mother, apparently does not stay at home and raise
her child. She is working and farms out the raising of her daughter to others.

She puts her little girl in what amounts to day care after school. She
abdicates the hands-on raising and supervising of her child in favor of
a career and pays somebody else to do her job.

Then the poor child gets run over because she was not being properly
looked after.

Then the mother sues the day-care center for not supervising her kid
well enough when it was the mother who should have being taking care
of her child in the first place and, if she had been doing so, the child
would not have gotten run over.

Sounds rather hypocritical to me. Bottom line, it is the mother's fault
her child got run over - nobody else but the mother's fault. It is the
mother's job to stay at home and raise her children.

What bugs me is LP has stayed at home and raised her
children yet you accused her of child neglect. I think you
should apologize to her. After you apologize perhaps you
could set your critical sights closer to home?

CN

"katysails" wrote in message ...
Actually, Neal, Madi was in the YMCA after school program. They allowed her
to leave with another parent's consent, not my daughter's...there is a
lawsuit pending for that....not that I owe you any explanations...the family
has suffered enough, but you, sir, wouldn't know anything about that since
you have no family and if you did, would certainly have been cast from its'
numbers well before this...



Capt. Neal® March 10th 05 09:37 PM

The above post sounded a little harsh and I was revising it to what
appears below but, somehow the above got posted anyway.

Please ignore the above and respond only to this one if you would
be so kind.

Katysails,

No need call me names and impugn my character . . . I simply would
like to put things in perspective.

Let's see if I understand all this. Please correct me if I am wrong. . .

Your daughter, Madi's mother, apparently does not stay at home and
raise her child(ren). She is working and farms out the raising of her
daughter to others.

After school, she has enrolled her little girl in what amounts to day care.
She abdicates the daily, hands-on raising and supervising of her child(ren)
in favor of a career outside her home while she pays somebody else to do
most of the child-rearing.

Then the poor child gets run over because she was not being properly
reared.

Then the mother sues the day-care center for not rearing her kid
well enough when it was the mother who should have been rearing
her child in the first place and, if she had been doing so, the child
would not have gotten run over. Katy, this is one of the direct results
of liberalism (It takes a Village - Hillary Clinton). Can you not see
this?

At any rate, I feel badly for the injured child who will probably
suffer from her wounds the rest of her life. I'm glad she pulled
though and I'm glad so many good people prayed for her recovery.

But blaming her accident on somebody else sounds rather hypocritical
to me.

Bottom line, and I know you don't want to hear this - it is the
mother's fault her child got run over - nobody else's but the
mother's fault. It is a mother's job to stay at home and raise
her children. The mother was not doing her job!

What bugs me is LP is a stay-at-home mom and raises her children,
and has done a damned fine job of it from what I can see, yet
you as much as accuse her of child neglect. Is it any wonder she
got ****ed and lashed out at you? I probably would have done the
same thing.

I think you should apologize to her. After you apologize, perhaps
you should set your critical sights a little closer to home? That
would be the Christian thing to do.

I sincerely wish you and little Madi well.

CN

"katysails" wrote in message ...
Actually, Neal, Madi was in the YMCA after school program. They allowed her
to leave with another parent's consent, not my daughter's...there is a
lawsuit pending for that....not that I owe you any explanations...the family
has suffered enough, but you, sir, wouldn't know anything about that since
you have no family and if you did, would certainly have been cast from its'
numbers well before this...



Capt. Neal® March 10th 05 09:38 PM

The above post sounded a little harsh and I was revising it to what
appears below but, somehow the above got posted anyway.

Please ignore the above and respond only to this one if you would
be so kind.

Katysails,

No need call me names and impugn my character . . . I simply would
like to put things in perspective.

Let's see if I understand all this. Please correct me if I am wrong. . .

Your daughter, Madi's mother, apparently does not stay at home and
raise her child(ren). She is working and farms out the raising of her
daughter to others.

After school, she has enrolled her little girl in what amounts to day care.
She abdicates the daily, hands-on raising and supervising of her child(ren)
in favor of a career outside her home while she pays somebody else to do
most of the child-rearing.

Then the poor child gets run over because she was not being properly
reared.

Then the mother sues the day-care center for not rearing her kid
well enough when it was the mother who should have been rearing
her child in the first place and, if she had been doing so, the child
would not have gotten run over. Katy, this is one of the direct results
of liberalism (It takes a Village - Hillary Clinton). Can you not see
this?

At any rate, I feel badly for the injured child who will probably
suffer from her wounds the rest of her life. I'm glad she pulled
though and I'm glad so many good people prayed for her recovery.

But blaming her accident on somebody else sounds rather hypocritical
to me.

Bottom line, and I know you don't want to hear this - it is the
mother's fault her child got run over - nobody else's but the
mother's fault. It is a mother's job to stay at home and raise
her children. The mother was not doing her job!

What bugs me is LP is a stay-at-home mom and raises her children,
and has done a damned fine job of it from what I can see, yet
you as much as accuse her of child neglect. Is it any wonder she
got ****ed and lashed out at you? I probably would have done the
same thing.

I think you should apologize to her. After you apologize, perhaps
you should set your critical sights a little closer to home? That
would be the Christian thing to do.

I sincerely wish you and little Madi well.

CN

"katysails" wrote in message ...
Actually, Neal, Madi was in the YMCA after school program. They allowed her
to leave with another parent's consent, not my daughter's...there is a
lawsuit pending for that....not that I owe you any explanations...the family
has suffered enough, but you, sir, wouldn't know anything about that since
you have no family and if you did, would certainly have been cast from its'
numbers well before this...



Capt. Neal® March 10th 05 09:38 PM

The above post sounded a little harsh and I was revising it to what
appears below but, somehow, the above got posted anyway.

Please ignore the above and respond only to this one if you would
be so kind.

Katysails,

No need call me names and impugn my character . . . I simply would
like to put things in perspective.

Let's see if I understand all this. Please correct me if I am wrong. . .

Your daughter, Madi's mother, apparently does not stay at home and
raise her child(ren). She is working and farms out the raising of her
daughter to others.

After school, she has enrolled her little girl in what amounts to day care.
She abdicates the daily, hands-on raising and supervising of her child(ren)
in favor of a career outside her home while she pays somebody else to do
most of the child-rearing.

Then the poor child gets run over because she was not being properly
reared.

Then the mother sues the day-care center for not rearing her kid
well enough when it was the mother who should have been rearing
her child in the first place and, if she had been doing so, the child
would not have gotten run over. Katy, this is one of the direct results
of liberalism (It takes a Village - Hillary Clinton). Can you not see
this?

At any rate, I feel badly for the injured child who will probably
suffer from her wounds the rest of her life. I'm glad she pulled
though and I'm glad so many good people prayed for her recovery.

But blaming her accident on somebody else sounds rather hypocritical
to me.

Bottom line, and I know you don't want to hear this - it is the
mother's fault her child got run over - nobody else's but the
mother's fault. It is a mother's job to stay at home and raise
her children. The mother was not doing her job!

What bugs me is LP is a stay-at-home mom and raises her children,
and has done a damned fine job of it from what I can see, yet
you as much as accuse her of child neglect. Is it any wonder she
got ****ed and lashed out at you? I probably would have done the
same thing.

I think you should apologize to her. After you apologize, perhaps
you should set your critical sights a little closer to home? That
would be the Christian thing to do.

I sincerely wish you and little Madi well.

CN

"katysails" wrote in message ...
Actually, Neal, Madi was in the YMCA after school program. They allowed her to leave with another parent's consent, not my
daughter's...there is a lawsuit pending for that....not that I owe you any explanations...the family has suffered enough, but you,
sir, wouldn't know anything about that since you have no family and if you did, would certainly have been cast from its' numbers
well before this...




"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ...


I think I get it now.
Your daughter, Madi's mother, apparently does not stay at home and raise her child. She is working and farms out the raising of
her daughter to others.

She puts her little girl in what amounts to day care after school. She
abdicates the hands-on raising and supervising of her child in favor of
a career and pays somebody else to do her job.

Then the poor child gets run over because she was not being properly looked after.

Then the mother sues the day-care center for not supervising her kid well enough when it was the mother who should have being
taking care of her child in the first place and, if she had been doing so, the child
would not have gotten run over.

Sounds rather hypocritical to me. Bottom line, it is the mother's fault her child got run over - nobody else but the mother's
fault. It is the mother's job to stay at home and raise her children.
What bugs me is LP has stayed at home and raised her children yet you accused her of child neglect. I think you should apologize
to her. After you apologize perhaps you
could set your critical sights closer to home?

CN

"katysails" wrote in message ...
Actually, Neal, Madi was in the YMCA after school program. They allowed her to leave with another parent's consent, not my
daughter's...there is a lawsuit pending for that....not that I owe you any explanations...the family has suffered enough, but
you, sir, wouldn't know anything about that since you have no family and if you did, would certainly have been cast from its'
numbers well before this...




Capt. Neal® March 10th 05 09:41 PM

Server problems, sorry for all the repeats.. You get what you pay for. Since individual net
has charging, they ain't worth crap!


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ...
The above post sounded a little harsh and I was revising it to what
appears below but, somehow the above got posted anyway.


big snip


Capt. Mooron March 10th 05 09:52 PM


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
The above post sounded a little harsh and I was revising it to what
appears below but, somehow the above got posted anyway.


See what happens when you get in touch with your feminine side.....
reaction instead of action.

You are becoming such a WOMAN!

Look Cappy... the reason God made Women was to give you something to ****
with when you can't sail...... he never intended you to "communicate" with
them!

You're acting like a Liberal!

CM



Capt. Neal® March 10th 05 10:00 PM


"Capt. Mooron" hurled the following insult:

You're acting like a Liberal!


Them's fightin' words, Bubba. Put up yer dukes!

CN

Capt. Mooron March 10th 05 10:07 PM


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

"Capt. Mooron" hurled the following insult:

You're acting like a Liberal!


Them's fightin' words, Bubba. Put up yer dukes!


Sorry but I don't fight with GIRLS!!!

CM



Capt. Neal® March 10th 05 10:15 PM




"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:Ty3Yd.31182$fc4.3492@edtnps89...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ...

"Capt. Mooron" hurled the following insult:

You're acting like a Liberal!


Them's fightin' words, Bubba. Put up yer dukes!


Sorry but I don't fight with GIRLS!!!



Coulda fooled me. Isn't it you who answers almost every one
of Gaynz's posts?

CN


katysails March 10th 05 11:04 PM

Oh, Goody! Ican hardly wait! Did you get the St Paddy's Day card?

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
ink.net...
That would be so nice.

I'll send you a card that has the real Babs Johnson on it plus Blondie
with
a mega beehive, Sonny Bono, Jerry Stiller and, .....drum roll please.....
Rikki Lake at her heaviest! This is too good for just one person... no
wait... I'll share it with everyone . Stay tuned or burn in hell!

Amen!

Bob Crantz

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Not rejected...never rejected....I didn't snail mail Christmas cards this
year, either....Do you want a St Paddy's Day card?

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
k.net...
I felt so left out...

Rejected by the essence of purity and feminimity...

But now I feel better. You must of been having a case of the vapors
just
before Christmas.

Bob Crantz

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Oh I'm so sorry, Gilly! I will send you an Easter mail to make up for
it!
Maybe I'll even find another beehive for you.

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
nk.net...
kATY DIDN'T SEND ME ANY cHRISTMAS EMAIL THIS YEAR AT ALL.

I am so let down and disappointed.

So sad....

Bob Crantz

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:KUHXd.8$N15.5@okepread06...

"katysails" wrote:
To set this all straight, this "war" started when LP began to
send
me
Bible tracts at my email address afterr I dressed up like a gypsy

on
Halloween for the old folks....she then alluded that the message

of
those
tracts had something to do with God's displeasure with me and
that
punishment would be forthcoming...this was in the advent of my
granddaughter's accident...

Yes, katysails, let's get this all straight, shall we?

You e-mailed me on 11-12-04 asking me to pray for your grand

daughter,
which
I did fervently. In only *one* e-mail on 11-15-04 I responded to

your
e-mail about your gd with a couple of scriptures. Since you asked

me
to
pray, I just assumed you were a Christian.

On 11-20-04, I e-mailed katy to ask for an update on her gd. Katy
replied
on 11-22-04 asking me and I quote, "keep praying, please."

The next correspondence with katy came on 12-22-04 when katy

e-mailed
me
comics on an e-mailed with the subject: The lighter side of the
season,
which was also e-mailed to Scotty, Seahag and Flying Tadpole among
others.

Then on 12-24-04 Katy e-mailed me with the subject: Merry

Christmas,
which
others named above were carbon copied, but this time included Peter
Wiley
and Capt. Neal. I have all e-mails if anyone requires further
proof
of
katy's lies.

So tell me why Katy would continue to e-mail me if she was so

offended
about
a couple of scriptures from the Holy Bible I added to an e-mail?
Wouldn't
it seem more likely that she would have started flaming me 11-01-04
instead
of after I went sailing on 2-10-05?

I plonked her out of my personal email so I don't know if she
continued
to
try or not..I don't check my spam box...

That's pretty funny, considering I never even answered your last
e-mail
to
me. lol

my allusions to her sons were to the effect that what kind of
woman
leaves
her kids at home to go sailing with someone she doesn't know from
a
ng
for
9 days?

This shows what little you are aware of concerning Capt. Neal and

I...

I would fill you in on the details, but it's none of your business.

I
will
say that Capt. Neal has been to my house, met my boys who adore
him,
not
to
mention my friends. Even my ex-husband checked him out through law
enforcement and found that Capt. Neal has an impeccable record. So
much
for
your libel about the good Capt. on usenet!

So you are saying that for me to leave my boys with their
biological
aunt
(which has a masters degree at the university in Child Development)
and
uncle, not to mention paternal grandparents (that leaped at the
opportunity
to spend time with their grandson's, even after I returned home)

that
I'm
somehow not a fit parent?

I assure you that my son's weren't running the busy street's in

front
of
McDonald's, especially the 11 year old. Even my 15 year old
doesn't
get
to
run the busy streets, unlike your grand daughter; I'm a better

mother
than
that.

One kind, to my mind...but that's namecalling and there's been
enough
of
that. What I did say is that her sons seemed to be lacking
guidance...or
maybe needed a father figure...they certainly need someone if

she's
gone
for 9 days at a time...

Maybe your grand daughter needs a "father figure"?

I did not impugn their mentality, their decision making, or any

other
personal attribute.

Sure you did, katy. Let's look on google on 2-20-05:




http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...b?dmode=source

Katy wrote:
I can understand, though, why someone trapped in Oklahoma
with a bunch of unruly high school boys would want to escape...even
you
must
have looked pretty good... end quote

So tell me katy, why would you say that my boys (who aren't in high
school
yet) are unruly? That was an intentional lie right there, unless

you
can
point to something you know about my sons that I don't.

What I do impugn is her judgment as a mother. She's now residing

in
the
same cave that BB and BS and Ganz all share. I thought they'd

like
the
entertainment value...

Bwaawhawhaaaa! That's a lie also, I can tell just by reading your
post
that
you read every one of my posts and stewed about them all night
long.
BTW,
I
don't know what a "refoinder" is as noted in the subject line of

your
whinning post, but a *rejoinder* is usually considered a quick and
witty
reply. I didn't see any of that in your final declaration of
defeat
in
our
catfight.

LP















katysails March 10th 05 11:09 PM

Go blow, Neal...you're a real horse's patoot sometimes...my daughter's a
great Mom and that's all you need to know....**** happens...after all, look
at you...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...


I think I get it now.
Your daughter, Madi's mother, apparently does not stay at home and raise
her child. She is working and farms out the raising of her daughter to
others.

She puts her little girl in what amounts to day care after school. She
abdicates the hands-on raising and supervising of her child in favor of
a career and pays somebody else to do her job.

Then the poor child gets run over because she was not being properly
looked after.

Then the mother sues the day-care center for not supervising her kid well
enough when it was the mother who should have being taking care of her
child in the first place and, if she had been doing so, the child
would not have gotten run over.

Sounds rather hypocritical to me. Bottom line, it is the mother's fault
her child got run over - nobody else but the mother's fault. It is the
mother's job to stay at home and raise her children.
What bugs me is LP has stayed at home and raised her children yet you
accused her of child neglect. I think you should apologize to her. After
you apologize perhaps you
could set your critical sights closer to home?

CN

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Actually, Neal, Madi was in the YMCA after school program. They allowed
her to leave with another parent's consent, not my daughter's...there is
a lawsuit pending for that....not that I owe you any explanations...the
family has suffered enough, but you, sir, wouldn't know anything about
that since you have no family and if you did, would certainly have been
cast from its' numbers well before this...





Capt. Neal® March 10th 05 11:34 PM

Not very big of you, Katy, especially when somebody is making
very good sense. But, if you wish to have selective vision, that's
your business. It does make you look parochial, though.

What is really ironic, however, is the sins of the mother are
often visited upon the daughter. Think about it.

CN

"katysails" wrote in message ...
Go blow, Neal...you're a real horse's patoot sometimes...my daughter's a
great Mom and that's all you need to know....**** happens...after all, look
at you...



JR Gilbreath March 10th 05 11:43 PM

Your grandmother must have sinned like hell.


Capt. Neal® wrote:
Not very big of you, Katy, especially when somebody is making
very good sense. But, if you wish to have selective vision, that's
your business. It does make you look parochial, though.
What is really ironic, however, is the sins of the mother are
often visited upon the daughter. Think about it.

CN

"katysails" wrote in message
...

Go blow, Neal...you're a real horse's patoot sometimes...my daughter's
a great Mom and that's all you need to know....**** happens...after
all, look at you...




Capt. Neal® March 10th 05 11:48 PM


"JR Badbreath" trolled thusly:

Your grandmother must have sinned like hell.


Yes, when she was 95 she said some dude by the name of JR Gilbreath
molested her in the nursing home. She said she sorta enjoyed it. Shame on you.

CN

JR Gilbreath March 10th 05 11:50 PM

Couldn't have been me, she would have said she really enjoyed it.

Capt. Neal® wrote:


"JR Badbreath" trolled thusly:

Your grandmother must have sinned like hell.



Yes, when she was 95 she said some dude by the name of JR Gilbreath
molested her in the nursing home. She said she sorta enjoyed it. Shame
on you.

CN


Capt. Neal® March 10th 05 11:54 PM

PERVERT!


"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message .. .
Couldn't have been me, she would have said she really enjoyed it.

Capt. Neal® wrote:


"JR Badbreath" trolled thusly:

Your grandmother must have sinned like hell.



Yes, when she was 95 she said some dude by the name of JR Gilbreath
molested her in the nursing home. She said she sorta enjoyed it. Shame on you.

CN




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