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"JG" wrote in message ... No they're not. They've been involved in situations beyond their control. Cheating implies some nefarious act. Not necassarily. If someone files bankrupcy, even though they tried their hardest and were honest, their creditors are still cheated out of the money they're owed. Scotty -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Well, they're cheating somebody. "JG" wrote in message ... I agree, but a very large number are in that situation because of family problems, such as illness or death of a spouse or child/parent. Most are not cheating the system. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scout" wrote in message ... No they don't. What they do is offer the card at a lower rate and then let it crawl like ivy up a wall. And by the way, I'm all for making bankruptcy more difficult for fools in debt. Why should we all pay for their lack of discipline. Wouldn't Neal be surprised. Scout "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... "Scout" wrote ... What it means is that people who can scrape together two nickels to save will get 1.5% interest while credit card companies rape people for 20% (check out Citi-Bank's earnings and policies). Rape? Anybody that uses a CC deserves what they get charged. it's not like they hide the int. rates. Scotty |
"JG" wrote in message ... What's the opposite of "persoanl bankruptcy"??? Corporate? Like Enron? Seems to me that the individual is more important than the corporation. Well yeah, you don't own a corp. If you did you'd feel different. SV |
Why didn't you send over a couple of union thugs to break his legs?
Scotty "Scout" wrote in message ... Yep, but notice that I carefully couched my reference to "fools in debt." There are always legitimate cases where honest people have fallen on hard times and it is in the best interest of the rest of us to help them regain their balance. There are others, of course, like the big casino mahof, who hired my company to do his mechanical construction and then claimed (planned) bankruptcy. He offered us 10 cents on the dollar. As you can see, he is no where near bankrupt and planned to let the contractors pay for his casino. We said no, beat him in court, and got all of our money. Scout "JG" wrote in message ... I agree, but a very large number are in that situation because of family problems, such as illness or death of a spouse or child/parent. Most are not cheating the system. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scout" wrote in message ... No they don't. What they do is offer the card at a lower rate and then let it crawl like ivy up a wall. And by the way, I'm all for making bankruptcy more difficult for fools in debt. Why should we all pay for their lack of discipline. Wouldn't Neal be surprised. Scout "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... "Scout" wrote ... What it means is that people who can scrape together two nickels to save will get 1.5% interest while credit card companies rape people for 20% (check out Citi-Bank's earnings and policies). Rape? Anybody that uses a CC deserves what they get charged. it's not like they hide the int. rates. Scotty |
I believe you are unable to comprehend this
because as a gay you are guided by emotion as opposed to logic. "JG" wrote in message ... I disagree completely. One doesn't have to be aggressive to assert one's rights. I believe you're unable to comprehend this because you are just plain stupid. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:w6LYd.23554$ZO2.23116@edtnps84... Again you fail to grasp the basic fact that without an aggressive attitude... you cannot be assertive. Assertiveness is merely a symptom of an aggressive nature, as is being competitive. Aggression does not have to involve physical violence. I believe you are unable to comprehend this because as a female you are guided by emotion as opposed to logic. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... Assertiveness works well in the competitive field of business whereas aggressiveness will usually land you on the unemployment lines...aggressive people generally rise fast in their professions and then tank out early whereas the consistently assertive attain their goals in a non-threatening manner and hold their positions or continue to rise.... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:N_EYd.46434$fc4.26583@edtnps89... I believe it is indeed that you do not comprehend.... or make erroneous assumptions regarding male aggression. In the average male... aggressiveness is controlled. To submit that a competitive nature is not required in a modern society is illogical. Even the few women in a position of power show an extremely heightened sense of aggressiveness and a competitive nature. Enlightenment has nothing to do with it. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... It's not that we don't comprehend..it's that we reject that as anything other than what it is....uncontrolled testosterone...it worked for cavemen because that's the physical reality they lived in but the idea of man (gender, not species) as hunter/gatherer in an enlightened society is an anachronism... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:5huYd.20032$ZO2.7495@edtnps84... NO! Kitty.... You are confusing aggressiveness and assertiveness.... which is understandable. I will repeat myself despite the fact I know you are not capable of understanding the logic..... You cannot be assertive without being aggressive. Let's take the scenario you utilized.... you assume that aggression requires physical intervention. It does not! Aggression between males has a multi-tiered level.... none of which can be comprehended by females. The level of aggressive behaviour is dependant on the situation. This is comprehended by even the youngest of our gender. CM CM "katysails" wrote in message ... An assertive person makes their point by showing you the hole in the ground; an aggressive person puts you in the hole in the ground. "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:gXrYd.19227$ZO2.4609@edtnps84... You require aggressiveness to be assertive.... the very act of asserting yourself, places others as either your equal or your subordinate.... despite what they may have perceived. This situation is not attained by passive compliance, nor neutral indifference. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... I am assertive....not aggressive.... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:hTpYd.20694$i6.18071@edtnps90... Aggression need not be physical.... CM "katysails" wrote in message ... I am not a physically aggressive person....except for the boots, chains, spurs, etc....but that's not the same thing... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:xghYd.40369$fc4.33395@edtnps89... You may indeed suggest it...... but I'd sooner you take your own advise. CM "katysails" wrote in message Well, may I suggest you rise above your base animal instinct and start using the tools that were given you to negotiate and walk away from aggression? |
Nova Scotia????? Bwahahahahahahahaaaa!!
CM "JG" wrote in message ... Yeah, in the frozen tundra where no one wants to live. Might make a nice vacation home. I think I'll stick to the warmer lats. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:YyLYd.23822$ZO2.20783@edtnps84... "Dave" wrote in message ... On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:47:23 GMT, "Scout" said: But I wouldn't want to be the 25 year old newly wed trying to scrape together 20% of $500K for a down payment. Happens all the time. And in the Manhattan market, if they have to scrape together 20% of $500K for the down payment they're not gonna get to first base. The coop board will turn them down. Isn't that where Bob lives???? Do you think his apartment is worth $500K?? Man.. $500K will buy you 60 acres of oceanside and a house up this way! $50K will buy you a 15 acre farm, with house, barns and out buildings...... CM |
"JG" wrote in message ... I disagree completely. One doesn't have to be aggressive to assert one's rights. I believe you're unable to comprehend this because you are just plain stupid. Well now Gaynzy... you're neither aggressive nor assertive... you're just an annoying, whining little homo! Your incapacity of emulating any masculine traits is positive proof that you are a limp wristed, lisping queer! Your tendency to effeminate behaviour has no doubt been the root cause of the abuse you've suffered throughout life. Now why don't you return to memorizing the Vagina Monologues and reapply more Preparation H while awaiting your next caller.... CM |
The creditors were not cheated! They lost money because due to risks
associated with doing business. This is basic business stuff. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... "JG" wrote in message ... No they're not. They've been involved in situations beyond their control. Cheating implies some nefarious act. Not necassarily. If someone files bankrupcy, even though they tried their hardest and were honest, their creditors are still cheated out of the money they're owed. Scotty -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Well, they're cheating somebody. "JG" wrote in message ... I agree, but a very large number are in that situation because of family problems, such as illness or death of a spouse or child/parent. Most are not cheating the system. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scout" wrote in message ... No they don't. What they do is offer the card at a lower rate and then let it crawl like ivy up a wall. And by the way, I'm all for making bankruptcy more difficult for fools in debt. Why should we all pay for their lack of discipline. Wouldn't Neal be surprised. Scout "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... "Scout" wrote ... What it means is that people who can scrape together two nickels to save will get 1.5% interest while credit card companies rape people for 20% (check out Citi-Bank's earnings and policies). Rape? Anybody that uses a CC deserves what they get charged. it's not like they hide the int. rates. Scotty |
Really? I don't?? Wow. Ok.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... "JG" wrote in message ... What's the opposite of "persoanl bankruptcy"??? Corporate? Like Enron? Seems to me that the individual is more important than the corporation. Well yeah, you don't own a corp. If you did you'd feel different. SV |
Bwahahahaaa... I'm amazed your chickens don't freeze to death. Oh wait... I
forgot, they live in your house. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:tlMYd.23932$ZO2.5515@edtnps84... Nova Scotia????? Bwahahahahahahahaaaa!! CM "JG" wrote in message ... Yeah, in the frozen tundra where no one wants to live. Might make a nice vacation home. I think I'll stick to the warmer lats. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:YyLYd.23822$ZO2.20783@edtnps84... "Dave" wrote in message ... On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:47:23 GMT, "Scout" said: But I wouldn't want to be the 25 year old newly wed trying to scrape together 20% of $500K for a down payment. Happens all the time. And in the Manhattan market, if they have to scrape together 20% of $500K for the down payment they're not gonna get to first base. The coop board will turn them down. Isn't that where Bob lives???? Do you think his apartment is worth $500K?? Man.. $500K will buy you 60 acres of oceanside and a house up this way! $50K will buy you a 15 acre farm, with house, barns and out buildings...... CM |
This is how Scotti Potti shows his level of intelligence....
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... I believe you are unable to comprehend this because as a gay you are guided by emotion as opposed to logic. "JG" wrote in message ... I disagree completely. One doesn't have to be aggressive to assert one's rights. I believe you're unable to comprehend this because you are just plain stupid. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:w6LYd.23554$ZO2.23116@edtnps84... Again you fail to grasp the basic fact that without an aggressive attitude... you cannot be assertive. Assertiveness is merely a symptom of an aggressive nature, as is being competitive. Aggression does not have to involve physical violence. I believe you are unable to comprehend this because as a female you are guided by emotion as opposed to logic. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... Assertiveness works well in the competitive field of business whereas aggressiveness will usually land you on the unemployment lines...aggressive people generally rise fast in their professions and then tank out early whereas the consistently assertive attain their goals in a non-threatening manner and hold their positions or continue to rise.... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:N_EYd.46434$fc4.26583@edtnps89... I believe it is indeed that you do not comprehend.... or make erroneous assumptions regarding male aggression. In the average male... aggressiveness is controlled. To submit that a competitive nature is not required in a modern society is illogical. Even the few women in a position of power show an extremely heightened sense of aggressiveness and a competitive nature. Enlightenment has nothing to do with it. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... It's not that we don't comprehend..it's that we reject that as anything other than what it is....uncontrolled testosterone...it worked for cavemen because that's the physical reality they lived in but the idea of man (gender, not species) as hunter/gatherer in an enlightened society is an anachronism... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:5huYd.20032$ZO2.7495@edtnps84... NO! Kitty.... You are confusing aggressiveness and assertiveness.... which is understandable. I will repeat myself despite the fact I know you are not capable of understanding the logic..... You cannot be assertive without being aggressive. Let's take the scenario you utilized.... you assume that aggression requires physical intervention. It does not! Aggression between males has a multi-tiered level.... none of which can be comprehended by females. The level of aggressive behaviour is dependant on the situation. This is comprehended by even the youngest of our gender. CM CM "katysails" wrote in message ... An assertive person makes their point by showing you the hole in the ground; an aggressive person puts you in the hole in the ground. "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:gXrYd.19227$ZO2.4609@edtnps84... You require aggressiveness to be assertive.... the very act of asserting yourself, places others as either your equal or your subordinate.... despite what they may have perceived. This situation is not attained by passive compliance, nor neutral indifference. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... I am assertive....not aggressive.... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:hTpYd.20694$i6.18071@edtnps90... Aggression need not be physical.... CM "katysails" wrote in message ... I am not a physically aggressive person....except for the boots, chains, spurs, etc....but that's not the same thing... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:xghYd.40369$fc4.33395@edtnps89... You may indeed suggest it...... but I'd sooner you take your own advise. CM "katysails" wrote in message Well, may I suggest you rise above your base animal instinct and start using the tools that were given you to negotiate and walk away from aggression? |
Well now Mooron... you're neither a man nor a mouse. You're certainly a
chicken-loving WIMP!! Bwahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:xwMYd.23933$ZO2.21646@edtnps84... "JG" wrote in message ... I disagree completely. One doesn't have to be aggressive to assert one's rights. I believe you're unable to comprehend this because you are just plain stupid. Well now Gaynzy... you're neither aggressive nor assertive... you're just an annoying, whining little homo! Your incapacity of emulating any masculine traits is positive proof that you are a limp wristed, lisping queer! Your tendency to effeminate behaviour has no doubt been the root cause of the abuse you've suffered throughout life. Now why don't you return to memorizing the Vagina Monologues and reapply more Preparation H while awaiting your next caller.... CM |
You're wrong....there are people that specialize in training the meek to be
assertive...these people have not got an aggressive bone in their bodies and get walked over....with assertiveness training, they are able to start fending for themselves...has nothing to do with aggression and everything to do with survival.... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:w6LYd.23554$ZO2.23116@edtnps84... Again you fail to grasp the basic fact that without an aggressive attitude... you cannot be assertive. Assertiveness is merely a symptom of an aggressive nature, as is being competitive. Aggression does not have to involve physical violence. I believe you are unable to comprehend this because as a female you are guided by emotion as opposed to logic. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... Assertiveness works well in the competitive field of business whereas aggressiveness will usually land you on the unemployment lines...aggressive people generally rise fast in their professions and then tank out early whereas the consistently assertive attain their goals in a non-threatening manner and hold their positions or continue to rise.... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:N_EYd.46434$fc4.26583@edtnps89... I believe it is indeed that you do not comprehend.... or make erroneous assumptions regarding male aggression. In the average male... aggressiveness is controlled. To submit that a competitive nature is not required in a modern society is illogical. Even the few women in a position of power show an extremely heightened sense of aggressiveness and a competitive nature. Enlightenment has nothing to do with it. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... It's not that we don't comprehend..it's that we reject that as anything other than what it is....uncontrolled testosterone...it worked for cavemen because that's the physical reality they lived in but the idea of man (gender, not species) as hunter/gatherer in an enlightened society is an anachronism... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:5huYd.20032$ZO2.7495@edtnps84... NO! Kitty.... You are confusing aggressiveness and assertiveness.... which is understandable. I will repeat myself despite the fact I know you are not capable of understanding the logic..... You cannot be assertive without being aggressive. Let's take the scenario you utilized.... you assume that aggression requires physical intervention. It does not! Aggression between males has a multi-tiered level.... none of which can be comprehended by females. The level of aggressive behaviour is dependant on the situation. This is comprehended by even the youngest of our gender. CM CM "katysails" wrote in message ... An assertive person makes their point by showing you the hole in the ground; an aggressive person puts you in the hole in the ground. "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:gXrYd.19227$ZO2.4609@edtnps84... You require aggressiveness to be assertive.... the very act of asserting yourself, places others as either your equal or your subordinate.... despite what they may have perceived. This situation is not attained by passive compliance, nor neutral indifference. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... I am assertive....not aggressive.... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:hTpYd.20694$i6.18071@edtnps90... Aggression need not be physical.... CM "katysails" wrote in message ... I am not a physically aggressive person....except for the boots, chains, spurs, etc....but that's not the same thing... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:xghYd.40369$fc4.33395@edtnps89... You may indeed suggest it...... but I'd sooner you take your own advise. CM "katysails" wrote in message Well, may I suggest you rise above your base animal instinct and start using the tools that were given you to negotiate and walk away from aggression? |
Oh no... they have a cedar shingled 8'x12' Chook House, windows, lights,
heat with an enclosed 12'x12' pen that has a metal roof. The lighting is on a timer and a 6 CD player is installed. A dust vent system and exhaust fan control air quality. The "girls" live a good life and enjoy their stay well beyond their productive span to die of old age. Any chicken would give it's eye teeth to stay there. By the way... you are aware I don't live in the Arctic anymore aren't you? You do know where Nova Scotia is don't you? CM "JG" wrote in message ... Bwahahahaaa... I'm amazed your chickens don't freeze to death. Oh wait... I forgot, they live in your house. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:tlMYd.23932$ZO2.5515@edtnps84... Nova Scotia????? Bwahahahahahahahaaaa!! CM "JG" wrote in message ... Yeah, in the frozen tundra where no one wants to live. Might make a nice vacation home. I think I'll stick to the warmer lats. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:YyLYd.23822$ZO2.20783@edtnps84... "Dave" wrote in message ... On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:47:23 GMT, "Scout" said: But I wouldn't want to be the 25 year old newly wed trying to scrape together 20% of $500K for a down payment. Happens all the time. And in the Manhattan market, if they have to scrape together 20% of $500K for the down payment they're not gonna get to first base. The coop board will turn them down. Isn't that where Bob lives???? Do you think his apartment is worth $500K?? Man.. $500K will buy you 60 acres of oceanside and a house up this way! $50K will buy you a 15 acre farm, with house, barns and out buildings...... CM |
Why do you think it's a manly thing to make accusations like that? Not that
I'm defending Jon or anything...I just wonder why it seems so important to you... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:xwMYd.23933$ZO2.21646@edtnps84... "JG" wrote in message ... I disagree completely. One doesn't have to be aggressive to assert one's rights. I believe you're unable to comprehend this because you are just plain stupid. Well now Gaynzy... you're neither aggressive nor assertive... you're just an annoying, whining little homo! Your incapacity of emulating any masculine traits is positive proof that you are a limp wristed, lisping queer! Your tendency to effeminate behaviour has no doubt been the root cause of the abuse you've suffered throughout life. Now why don't you return to memorizing the Vagina Monologues and reapply more Preparation H while awaiting your next caller.... CM |
Kind of a waste to let them live past their productive egg laying
years....they would serve a better purpose by visiting your stewpot... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:02NYd.23935$ZO2.13939@edtnps84... Oh no... they have a cedar shingled 8'x12' Chook House, windows, lights, heat with an enclosed 12'x12' pen that has a metal roof. The lighting is on a timer and a 6 CD player is installed. A dust vent system and exhaust fan control air quality. The "girls" live a good life and enjoy their stay well beyond their productive span to die of old age. Any chicken would give it's eye teeth to stay there. By the way... you are aware I don't live in the Arctic anymore aren't you? You do know where Nova Scotia is don't you? CM "JG" wrote in message ... Bwahahahaaa... I'm amazed your chickens don't freeze to death. Oh wait... I forgot, they live in your house. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:tlMYd.23932$ZO2.5515@edtnps84... Nova Scotia????? Bwahahahahahahahaaaa!! CM "JG" wrote in message ... Yeah, in the frozen tundra where no one wants to live. Might make a nice vacation home. I think I'll stick to the warmer lats. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:YyLYd.23822$ZO2.20783@edtnps84... "Dave" wrote in message ... On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:47:23 GMT, "Scout" said: But I wouldn't want to be the 25 year old newly wed trying to scrape together 20% of $500K for a down payment. Happens all the time. And in the Manhattan market, if they have to scrape together 20% of $500K for the down payment they're not gonna get to first base. The coop board will turn them down. Isn't that where Bob lives???? Do you think his apartment is worth $500K?? Man.. $500K will buy you 60 acres of oceanside and a house up this way! $50K will buy you a 15 acre farm, with house, barns and out buildings...... CM |
"katysails" wrote in message Why do you think it's a manly thing to make accusations like that? Not that I'm defending Jon or anything...I just wonder why it seems so important to you... Important? No Kitty.... it's merely par for the course when dealing with Gaynzy. Slapping around of such an obviously annoying little twit isn't done to elevate my standing.... that's already understood. I suppose I could ignore him... but what sport is there in that? You do understand that he brings this action upon himself of his own volition don't you? He is free to communicate in a rational manner but refuses to do so. If he had any senses at all he wouldn't be killfiled by so many people. CM |
Assertive behaviour is motivated by aggressive stance. If you stand your
ground... you are asserting your place... the very act of that is aggressive. The meek can never be taught assertiveness.... I don't care how many classes you give them.... they will fold like superman on laundry day in the face of someone with a true assertive/aggressive personality. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... You're wrong....there are people that specialize in training the meek to be assertive...these people have not got an aggressive bone in their bodies and get walked over....with assertiveness training, they are able to start fending for themselves...has nothing to do with aggression and everything to do with survival.... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:w6LYd.23554$ZO2.23116@edtnps84... Again you fail to grasp the basic fact that without an aggressive attitude... you cannot be assertive. Assertiveness is merely a symptom of an aggressive nature, as is being competitive. Aggression does not have to involve physical violence. I believe you are unable to comprehend this because as a female you are guided by emotion as opposed to logic. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... Assertiveness works well in the competitive field of business whereas aggressiveness will usually land you on the unemployment lines...aggressive people generally rise fast in their professions and then tank out early whereas the consistently assertive attain their goals in a non-threatening manner and hold their positions or continue to rise.... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:N_EYd.46434$fc4.26583@edtnps89... I believe it is indeed that you do not comprehend.... or make erroneous assumptions regarding male aggression. In the average male... aggressiveness is controlled. To submit that a competitive nature is not required in a modern society is illogical. Even the few women in a position of power show an extremely heightened sense of aggressiveness and a competitive nature. Enlightenment has nothing to do with it. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... It's not that we don't comprehend..it's that we reject that as anything other than what it is....uncontrolled testosterone...it worked for cavemen because that's the physical reality they lived in but the idea of man (gender, not species) as hunter/gatherer in an enlightened society is an anachronism... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:5huYd.20032$ZO2.7495@edtnps84... NO! Kitty.... You are confusing aggressiveness and assertiveness.... which is understandable. I will repeat myself despite the fact I know you are not capable of understanding the logic..... You cannot be assertive without being aggressive. Let's take the scenario you utilized.... you assume that aggression requires physical intervention. It does not! Aggression between males has a multi-tiered level.... none of which can be comprehended by females. The level of aggressive behaviour is dependant on the situation. This is comprehended by even the youngest of our gender. CM CM "katysails" wrote in message ... An assertive person makes their point by showing you the hole in the ground; an aggressive person puts you in the hole in the ground. "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:gXrYd.19227$ZO2.4609@edtnps84... You require aggressiveness to be assertive.... the very act of asserting yourself, places others as either your equal or your subordinate.... despite what they may have perceived. This situation is not attained by passive compliance, nor neutral indifference. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... I am assertive....not aggressive.... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:hTpYd.20694$i6.18071@edtnps90... Aggression need not be physical.... CM "katysails" wrote in message ... I am not a physically aggressive person....except for the boots, chains, spurs, etc....but that's not the same thing... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:xghYd.40369$fc4.33395@edtnps89... You may indeed suggest it...... but I'd sooner you take your own advise. CM "katysails" wrote in message Well, may I suggest you rise above your base animal instinct and start using the tools that were given you to negotiate and walk away from aggression? |
I raise meat birds for that... old hens don't make for the best food. I lose
a few hens every year from old age and replace them with young hens. This isn't a production farm.... I'm not in this for profit and I don't consider it a waste to let them live out their lives. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... Kind of a waste to let them live past their productive egg laying years....they would serve a better purpose by visiting your stewpot... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:02NYd.23935$ZO2.13939@edtnps84... Oh no... they have a cedar shingled 8'x12' Chook House, windows, lights, heat with an enclosed 12'x12' pen that has a metal roof. The lighting is on a timer and a 6 CD player is installed. A dust vent system and exhaust fan control air quality. The "girls" live a good life and enjoy their stay well beyond their productive span to die of old age. Any chicken would give it's eye teeth to stay there. By the way... you are aware I don't live in the Arctic anymore aren't you? You do know where Nova Scotia is don't you? CM "JG" wrote in message ... Bwahahahaaa... I'm amazed your chickens don't freeze to death. Oh wait... I forgot, they live in your house. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:tlMYd.23932$ZO2.5515@edtnps84... Nova Scotia????? Bwahahahahahahahaaaa!! CM "JG" wrote in message ... Yeah, in the frozen tundra where no one wants to live. Might make a nice vacation home. I think I'll stick to the warmer lats. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:YyLYd.23822$ZO2.20783@edtnps84... "Dave" wrote in message ... On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:47:23 GMT, "Scout" said: But I wouldn't want to be the 25 year old newly wed trying to scrape together 20% of $500K for a down payment. Happens all the time. And in the Manhattan market, if they have to scrape together 20% of $500K for the down payment they're not gonna get to first base. The coop board will turn them down. Isn't that where Bob lives???? Do you think his apartment is worth $500K?? Man.. $500K will buy you 60 acres of oceanside and a house up this way! $50K will buy you a 15 acre farm, with house, barns and out buildings...... CM |
I'm sure you visit them regularly. Interesting that you call them your
"girls." Well, I suppose that's better than calling them your "boys," and I doubt the roosters would put up with your advances. Yes, I'm aware of the general location of Nova Scotia. It's still a heck of a lot colder than sunny California... in the high 70s low 80s today. I've been sailing all week. Bwaahahahaaaaaa.... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:02NYd.23935$ZO2.13939@edtnps84... Oh no... they have a cedar shingled 8'x12' Chook House, windows, lights, heat with an enclosed 12'x12' pen that has a metal roof. The lighting is on a timer and a 6 CD player is installed. A dust vent system and exhaust fan control air quality. The "girls" live a good life and enjoy their stay well beyond their productive span to die of old age. Any chicken would give it's eye teeth to stay there. By the way... you are aware I don't live in the Arctic anymore aren't you? You do know where Nova Scotia is don't you? CM "JG" wrote in message ... Bwahahahaaa... I'm amazed your chickens don't freeze to death. Oh wait... I forgot, they live in your house. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:tlMYd.23932$ZO2.5515@edtnps84... Nova Scotia????? Bwahahahahahahahaaaa!! CM "JG" wrote in message ... Yeah, in the frozen tundra where no one wants to live. Might make a nice vacation home. I think I'll stick to the warmer lats. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:YyLYd.23822$ZO2.20783@edtnps84... "Dave" wrote in message ... On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:47:23 GMT, "Scout" said: But I wouldn't want to be the 25 year old newly wed trying to scrape together 20% of $500K for a down payment. Happens all the time. And in the Manhattan market, if they have to scrape together 20% of $500K for the down payment they're not gonna get to first base. The coop board will turn them down. Isn't that where Bob lives???? Do you think his apartment is worth $500K?? Man.. $500K will buy you 60 acres of oceanside and a house up this way! $50K will buy you a 15 acre farm, with house, barns and out buildings...... CM |
It proves something to himself. It's a bit sad actually.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "katysails" wrote in message ... Why do you think it's a manly thing to make accusations like that? Not that I'm defending Jon or anything...I just wonder why it seems so important to you... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:xwMYd.23933$ZO2.21646@edtnps84... "JG" wrote in message ... I disagree completely. One doesn't have to be aggressive to assert one's rights. I believe you're unable to comprehend this because you are just plain stupid. Well now Gaynzy... you're neither aggressive nor assertive... you're just an annoying, whining little homo! Your incapacity of emulating any masculine traits is positive proof that you are a limp wristed, lisping queer! Your tendency to effeminate behaviour has no doubt been the root cause of the abuse you've suffered throughout life. Now why don't you return to memorizing the Vagina Monologues and reapply more Preparation H while awaiting your next caller.... CM |
You're so totally full of **** that even the chickens are laughing. You're
an abusive drunk, who claims to be a man but isn't. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:rpNYd.23943$ZO2.16513@edtnps84... "katysails" wrote in message Why do you think it's a manly thing to make accusations like that? Not that I'm defending Jon or anything...I just wonder why it seems so important to you... Important? No Kitty.... it's merely par for the course when dealing with Gaynzy. Slapping around of such an obviously annoying little twit isn't done to elevate my standing.... that's already understood. I suppose I could ignore him... but what sport is there in that? You do understand that he brings this action upon himself of his own volition don't you? He is free to communicate in a rational manner but refuses to do so. If he had any senses at all he wouldn't be killfiled by so many people. CM |
You're completely and totally wrong, as usual. Bwahahahaaaaaa....
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:IyNYd.23951$ZO2.4359@edtnps84... Assertive behaviour is motivated by aggressive stance. If you stand your ground... you are asserting your place... the very act of that is aggressive. The meek can never be taught assertiveness.... I don't care how many classes you give them.... they will fold like superman on laundry day in the face of someone with a true assertive/aggressive personality. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... You're wrong....there are people that specialize in training the meek to be assertive...these people have not got an aggressive bone in their bodies and get walked over....with assertiveness training, they are able to start fending for themselves...has nothing to do with aggression and everything to do with survival.... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:w6LYd.23554$ZO2.23116@edtnps84... Again you fail to grasp the basic fact that without an aggressive attitude... you cannot be assertive. Assertiveness is merely a symptom of an aggressive nature, as is being competitive. Aggression does not have to involve physical violence. I believe you are unable to comprehend this because as a female you are guided by emotion as opposed to logic. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... Assertiveness works well in the competitive field of business whereas aggressiveness will usually land you on the unemployment lines...aggressive people generally rise fast in their professions and then tank out early whereas the consistently assertive attain their goals in a non-threatening manner and hold their positions or continue to rise.... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:N_EYd.46434$fc4.26583@edtnps89... I believe it is indeed that you do not comprehend.... or make erroneous assumptions regarding male aggression. In the average male... aggressiveness is controlled. To submit that a competitive nature is not required in a modern society is illogical. Even the few women in a position of power show an extremely heightened sense of aggressiveness and a competitive nature. Enlightenment has nothing to do with it. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... It's not that we don't comprehend..it's that we reject that as anything other than what it is....uncontrolled testosterone...it worked for cavemen because that's the physical reality they lived in but the idea of man (gender, not species) as hunter/gatherer in an enlightened society is an anachronism... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:5huYd.20032$ZO2.7495@edtnps84... NO! Kitty.... You are confusing aggressiveness and assertiveness.... which is understandable. I will repeat myself despite the fact I know you are not capable of understanding the logic..... You cannot be assertive without being aggressive. Let's take the scenario you utilized.... you assume that aggression requires physical intervention. It does not! Aggression between males has a multi-tiered level.... none of which can be comprehended by females. The level of aggressive behaviour is dependant on the situation. This is comprehended by even the youngest of our gender. CM CM "katysails" wrote in message ... An assertive person makes their point by showing you the hole in the ground; an aggressive person puts you in the hole in the ground. "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:gXrYd.19227$ZO2.4609@edtnps84... You require aggressiveness to be assertive.... the very act of asserting yourself, places others as either your equal or your subordinate.... despite what they may have perceived. This situation is not attained by passive compliance, nor neutral indifference. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... I am assertive....not aggressive.... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:hTpYd.20694$i6.18071@edtnps90... Aggression need not be physical.... CM "katysails" wrote in message ... I am not a physically aggressive person....except for the boots, chains, spurs, etc....but that's not the same thing... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:xghYd.40369$fc4.33395@edtnps89... You may indeed suggest it...... but I'd sooner you take your own advise. CM "katysails" wrote in message Well, may I suggest you rise above your base animal instinct and start using the tools that were given you to negotiate and walk away from aggression? |
"JG" wrote in message ... I'm sure you visit them regularly. Interesting that you call them your "girls." Well, I suppose that's better than calling them your "boys," and I doubt the roosters would put up with your advances. Of course I "visit" them regularly Gaynzy... they are on the property and require feeding/watering daily!! How totally idiotic can you possibly be not to comprehend that? I don't call them my girls Jon... just "the Girls"... like I call you just "a Homo"! Yes, I'm aware of the general location of Nova Scotia. It's still a heck of a lot colder than sunny California... in the high 70s low 80s today. I've been sailing all week. Bwaahahahaaaaaa.... The general location???? Yeah it's colder but we don't have anywhere near the amount of raving queers you do in California. That's a trade off I can live with ... you friggin' homo. CM "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:02NYd.23935$ZO2.13939@edtnps84... Oh no... they have a cedar shingled 8'x12' Chook House, windows, lights, heat with an enclosed 12'x12' pen that has a metal roof. The lighting is on a timer and a 6 CD player is installed. A dust vent system and exhaust fan control air quality. The "girls" live a good life and enjoy their stay well beyond their productive span to die of old age. Any chicken would give it's eye teeth to stay there. By the way... you are aware I don't live in the Arctic anymore aren't you? You do know where Nova Scotia is don't you? CM "JG" wrote in message ... Bwahahahaaa... I'm amazed your chickens don't freeze to death. Oh wait... I forgot, they live in your house. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:tlMYd.23932$ZO2.5515@edtnps84... Nova Scotia????? Bwahahahahahahahaaaa!! CM "JG" wrote in message ... Yeah, in the frozen tundra where no one wants to live. Might make a nice vacation home. I think I'll stick to the warmer lats. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:YyLYd.23822$ZO2.20783@edtnps84... "Dave" wrote in message ... On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:47:23 GMT, "Scout" said: But I wouldn't want to be the 25 year old newly wed trying to scrape together 20% of $500K for a down payment. Happens all the time. And in the Manhattan market, if they have to scrape together 20% of $500K for the down payment they're not gonna get to first base. The coop board will turn them down. Isn't that where Bob lives???? Do you think his apartment is worth $500K?? Man.. $500K will buy you 60 acres of oceanside and a house up this way! $50K will buy you a 15 acre farm, with house, barns and out buildings...... CM |
You are such a gay little foreskin wrangler Gaynzy!
CM "JG" wrote in message ... You're so totally full of **** that even the chickens are laughing. You're an abusive drunk, who claims to be a man but isn't. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:rpNYd.23943$ZO2.16513@edtnps84... "katysails" wrote in message Why do you think it's a manly thing to make accusations like that? Not that I'm defending Jon or anything...I just wonder why it seems so important to you... Important? No Kitty.... it's merely par for the course when dealing with Gaynzy. Slapping around of such an obviously annoying little twit isn't done to elevate my standing.... that's already understood. I suppose I could ignore him... but what sport is there in that? You do understand that he brings this action upon himself of his own volition don't you? He is free to communicate in a rational manner but refuses to do so. If he had any senses at all he wouldn't be killfiled by so many people. CM |
DUH!!!.... it proves you're a limp wristed little faggot!!!
You fudge packin' little homo! CM "JG" wrote in message ... It proves something to himself. It's a bit sad actually. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "katysails" wrote in message ... Why do you think it's a manly thing to make accusations like that? Not that I'm defending Jon or anything...I just wonder why it seems so important to you... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:xwMYd.23933$ZO2.21646@edtnps84... "JG" wrote in message ... I disagree completely. One doesn't have to be aggressive to assert one's rights. I believe you're unable to comprehend this because you are just plain stupid. Well now Gaynzy... you're neither aggressive nor assertive... you're just an annoying, whining little homo! Your incapacity of emulating any masculine traits is positive proof that you are a limp wristed, lisping queer! Your tendency to effeminate behaviour has no doubt been the root cause of the abuse you've suffered throughout life. Now why don't you return to memorizing the Vagina Monologues and reapply more Preparation H while awaiting your next caller.... CM |
Gaynzy thinks he's being assertive when he's takin' it up the ass!
You little homo! CM "JG" wrote in message ... You're completely and totally wrong, as usual. Bwahahahaaaaaa.... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:IyNYd.23951$ZO2.4359@edtnps84... Assertive behaviour is motivated by aggressive stance. If you stand your ground... you are asserting your place... the very act of that is aggressive. The meek can never be taught assertiveness.... I don't care how many classes you give them.... they will fold like superman on laundry day in the face of someone with a true assertive/aggressive personality. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... You're wrong....there are people that specialize in training the meek to be assertive...these people have not got an aggressive bone in their bodies and get walked over....with assertiveness training, they are able to start fending for themselves...has nothing to do with aggression and everything to do with survival.... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:w6LYd.23554$ZO2.23116@edtnps84... Again you fail to grasp the basic fact that without an aggressive attitude... you cannot be assertive. Assertiveness is merely a symptom of an aggressive nature, as is being competitive. Aggression does not have to involve physical violence. I believe you are unable to comprehend this because as a female you are guided by emotion as opposed to logic. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... Assertiveness works well in the competitive field of business whereas aggressiveness will usually land you on the unemployment lines...aggressive people generally rise fast in their professions and then tank out early whereas the consistently assertive attain their goals in a non-threatening manner and hold their positions or continue to rise.... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:N_EYd.46434$fc4.26583@edtnps89... I believe it is indeed that you do not comprehend.... or make erroneous assumptions regarding male aggression. In the average male... aggressiveness is controlled. To submit that a competitive nature is not required in a modern society is illogical. Even the few women in a position of power show an extremely heightened sense of aggressiveness and a competitive nature. Enlightenment has nothing to do with it. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... It's not that we don't comprehend..it's that we reject that as anything other than what it is....uncontrolled testosterone...it worked for cavemen because that's the physical reality they lived in but the idea of man (gender, not species) as hunter/gatherer in an enlightened society is an anachronism... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:5huYd.20032$ZO2.7495@edtnps84... NO! Kitty.... You are confusing aggressiveness and assertiveness.... which is understandable. I will repeat myself despite the fact I know you are not capable of understanding the logic..... You cannot be assertive without being aggressive. Let's take the scenario you utilized.... you assume that aggression requires physical intervention. It does not! Aggression between males has a multi-tiered level.... none of which can be comprehended by females. The level of aggressive behaviour is dependant on the situation. This is comprehended by even the youngest of our gender. CM CM "katysails" wrote in message ... An assertive person makes their point by showing you the hole in the ground; an aggressive person puts you in the hole in the ground. "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:gXrYd.19227$ZO2.4609@edtnps84... You require aggressiveness to be assertive.... the very act of asserting yourself, places others as either your equal or your subordinate.... despite what they may have perceived. This situation is not attained by passive compliance, nor neutral indifference. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... I am assertive....not aggressive.... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:hTpYd.20694$i6.18071@edtnps90... Aggression need not be physical.... CM "katysails" wrote in message ... I am not a physically aggressive person....except for the boots, chains, spurs, etc....but that's not the same thing... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:xghYd.40369$fc4.33395@edtnps89... You may indeed suggest it...... but I'd sooner you take your own advise. CM "katysails" wrote in message Well, may I suggest you rise above your base animal instinct and start using the tools that were given you to negotiate and walk away from aggression? |
non-union construction workers. ; o)
close inspection showed the 4 year old place was falling apart! Scout "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... "Scout" wrote in message ... I know, but I made three trips with the trailer today (moving) and I'm punch drunk. the 'big' trailer? Man, I hate moving. I had 4 traier loads last time we moved, It's probably up to 8 now. We haven't found a house yet, but ours sold in 13 days so we have to get out. We taking a townhouse with a 3 month lease until we can find a suitable place. Bummer. What happened to the Coventry house? We moved into our new house before the old one was sold, had double mortgage payments for a few months. Scotty |
Well you're right about that!
One's position just depends on what side one's bread is buttered. And you're also right that both the employer and the union can screw each other and the workers; it's a delicate balance of power. Scout "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:sYKYd.23522$ZO2.7026@edtnps84... I've been a member of several unions during my employment history. I afford them as much trust as I do my employer.... little if any. To rise to the defence of any soulless entity... be it union , employer or government is pointless. Align yourself with whatever profits you... for as long as it does so. A case in point would be the Giant Mine strike in Yellowknife..... where the personal prejudices of both union boss and employer destroyed the lives of many. The union members were left to hang due to the petty squabbles of a few and the indifference of the government and law enforcement. CM "Scout" wrote in message ... CM, I don't know what your experience is with unions. But I do know what I've been through, and my father, and his father. Your points are made eloquently, but do not mesh with what I know to be truth. Perhaps things are different in Canada, or in Philadelphia. Scout "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:YpFYd.46457$fc4.9578@edtnps89... "Scout" wrote in message Very good. And because they had that day, hired goons no longer show up and split your head open with a baseball bat for wanting a fair share of the profits of a company's efforts. Had you seen that, you might be glad to have a brother close by. These heavy handed "negotiations" made bar room fights look like a day at the beach. Not really a viable example Scout... since there are many things in society that are no longer condoned and that had nothing to do with union activity. It's all very well and good to espouse a philosophy that worked in the day of the agrarian citizen, but the sheer number of people in the modern workforce demands different rules. Hobbes would have agreed with me. People are inherently greedy; generally speaking they are pricks. ASA provides all the evidence one needs to believe that is true. Government and big business are one and the same, and together they are still the Leviathan. Mutually beneficial contracts are needed today more than ever. God bless a nation where a guy like Scotty can make the offer of "take it or shove it." He can do so only because others have paid the cost, and continue to pay the price, for that privilege. Our ancestors have collectively paid the price to have us achieve our current freedoms and society... this in no way suggests that methods acceptable even 50 years ago are legitimate today. Your statement on the general tendencies of people seem to illustrate a rather negative view of society in general. I do not find the people posting to ASA as pricks at all.... [Except for Gaynzy who is an annoying little homo].... their posturing and statements are a fine tool with which to hone my abilities to defend a position. Considering the anonymity provided by this medium... it's a wonder the verbal engagements are not far worse. In effect we self police. In regards to Scotty's ability to establish his rate of pay... this has been available for as long as we have existed and is not the result of union activity. If you provide a service or commodity that is superior to others in the same field.... you have the right to charge what the consumer will bear. CM |
We did, they also happened to be lawyers.
Scout "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Why didn't you send over a couple of union thugs to break his legs? Scotty "Scout" wrote in message ... Yep, but notice that I carefully couched my reference to "fools in debt." There are always legitimate cases where honest people have fallen on hard times and it is in the best interest of the rest of us to help them regain their balance. There are others, of course, like the big casino mahof, who hired my company to do his mechanical construction and then claimed (planned) bankruptcy. He offered us 10 cents on the dollar. As you can see, he is no where near bankrupt and planned to let the contractors pay for his casino. We said no, beat him in court, and got all of our money. Scout "JG" wrote in message ... I agree, but a very large number are in that situation because of family problems, such as illness or death of a spouse or child/parent. Most are not cheating the system. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scout" wrote in message ... No they don't. What they do is offer the card at a lower rate and then let it crawl like ivy up a wall. And by the way, I'm all for making bankruptcy more difficult for fools in debt. Why should we all pay for their lack of discipline. Wouldn't Neal be surprised. Scout "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... "Scout" wrote ... What it means is that people who can scrape together two nickels to save will get 1.5% interest while credit card companies rape people for 20% (check out Citi-Bank's earnings and policies). Rape? Anybody that uses a CC deserves what they get charged. it's not like they hide the int. rates. Scotty |
I wouldn't know about Manhattan; I can't think of one newlywed couple
dreaming of living there. btw - did you read the article I linked in reply to your link? Scout "Dave" wrote in message ... On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:47:23 GMT, "Scout" said: But I wouldn't want to be the 25 year old newly wed trying to scrape together 20% of $500K for a down payment. Happens all the time. And in the Manhattan market, if they have to scrape together 20% of $500K for the down payment they're not gonna get to first base. The coop board will turn them down. |
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 12:24:16 -0800, "JG" wrote
this crap: Cheating implies some nefarious act. Your boyfriend cheats on you? Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
Annoyances, in my opinion, are best left ignored...if you pay attention to
peetty annoyances, they do become important to you for whatever reason and take time away from things that would be more worthwhile... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:rpNYd.23943$ZO2.16513@edtnps84... "katysails" wrote in message Why do you think it's a manly thing to make accusations like that? Not that I'm defending Jon or anything...I just wonder why it seems so important to you... Important? No Kitty.... it's merely par for the course when dealing with Gaynzy. Slapping around of such an obviously annoying little twit isn't done to elevate my standing.... that's already understood. I suppose I could ignore him... but what sport is there in that? You do understand that he brings this action upon himself of his own volition don't you? He is free to communicate in a rational manner but refuses to do so. If he had any senses at all he wouldn't be killfiled by so many people. CM |
Well, you're wrong again...I'm not interested in doing all the Google
searches for the studies, but they're there...assertiveness can be taught and used effectively, without aggression....you probably just don't recognize it because the testosterone stands in the way... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:IyNYd.23951$ZO2.4359@edtnps84... Assertive behaviour is motivated by aggressive stance. If you stand your ground... you are asserting your place... the very act of that is aggressive. The meek can never be taught assertiveness.... I don't care how many classes you give them.... they will fold like superman on laundry day in the face of someone with a true assertive/aggressive personality. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... You're wrong....there are people that specialize in training the meek to be assertive...these people have not got an aggressive bone in their bodies and get walked over....with assertiveness training, they are able to start fending for themselves...has nothing to do with aggression and everything to do with survival.... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:w6LYd.23554$ZO2.23116@edtnps84... Again you fail to grasp the basic fact that without an aggressive attitude... you cannot be assertive. Assertiveness is merely a symptom of an aggressive nature, as is being competitive. Aggression does not have to involve physical violence. I believe you are unable to comprehend this because as a female you are guided by emotion as opposed to logic. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... Assertiveness works well in the competitive field of business whereas aggressiveness will usually land you on the unemployment lines...aggressive people generally rise fast in their professions and then tank out early whereas the consistently assertive attain their goals in a non-threatening manner and hold their positions or continue to rise.... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:N_EYd.46434$fc4.26583@edtnps89... I believe it is indeed that you do not comprehend.... or make erroneous assumptions regarding male aggression. In the average male... aggressiveness is controlled. To submit that a competitive nature is not required in a modern society is illogical. Even the few women in a position of power show an extremely heightened sense of aggressiveness and a competitive nature. Enlightenment has nothing to do with it. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... It's not that we don't comprehend..it's that we reject that as anything other than what it is....uncontrolled testosterone...it worked for cavemen because that's the physical reality they lived in but the idea of man (gender, not species) as hunter/gatherer in an enlightened society is an anachronism... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:5huYd.20032$ZO2.7495@edtnps84... NO! Kitty.... You are confusing aggressiveness and assertiveness.... which is understandable. I will repeat myself despite the fact I know you are not capable of understanding the logic..... You cannot be assertive without being aggressive. Let's take the scenario you utilized.... you assume that aggression requires physical intervention. It does not! Aggression between males has a multi-tiered level.... none of which can be comprehended by females. The level of aggressive behaviour is dependant on the situation. This is comprehended by even the youngest of our gender. CM CM "katysails" wrote in message ... An assertive person makes their point by showing you the hole in the ground; an aggressive person puts you in the hole in the ground. "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:gXrYd.19227$ZO2.4609@edtnps84... You require aggressiveness to be assertive.... the very act of asserting yourself, places others as either your equal or your subordinate.... despite what they may have perceived. This situation is not attained by passive compliance, nor neutral indifference. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... I am assertive....not aggressive.... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:hTpYd.20694$i6.18071@edtnps90... Aggression need not be physical.... CM "katysails" wrote in message ... I am not a physically aggressive person....except for the boots, chains, spurs, etc....but that's not the same thing... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:xghYd.40369$fc4.33395@edtnps89... You may indeed suggest it...... but I'd sooner you take your own advise. CM "katysails" wrote in message Well, may I suggest you rise above your base animal instinct and start using the tools that were given you to negotiate and walk away from aggression? |
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If I was concerned in regards to having time taken away from more important
matters.... I would probably not be posting here in the first place. Generally I find myself posting to the group during movie commercials, breaks while engaged in other computer work, waiting for the next level of UT2K4 to load up... unless there is an interesting thread or a viable, challenging opponent to engage. I only subscribe to ASA... since it offers a much better standard of rhetoric and wit. Let's face it... most of the regulars here, have covered in debt almost every topic on sailing... repeatedly Gaynz provides opportunity to test the amount of verbal abuse that can be tolerated by an individual on usegroups. I understand that this is of no interest to some of the other posters here... but a filter which deletes any post containing the word "Gaynz" or "Gaynzy" will clear that up since I will always include those words in my replies to Jon's posts. To date I have found that Jax endured the most abuse until he finally snapped and was forced to take a break. Gaynz is not far behind Jax.... and far less literate.... which isn't saying much. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... Annoyances, in my opinion, are best left ignored...if you pay attention to peetty annoyances, they do become important to you for whatever reason and take time away from things that would be more worthwhile... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:rpNYd.23943$ZO2.16513@edtnps84... "katysails" wrote in message Why do you think it's a manly thing to make accusations like that? Not that I'm defending Jon or anything...I just wonder why it seems so important to you... Important? No Kitty.... it's merely par for the course when dealing with Gaynzy. Slapping around of such an obviously annoying little twit isn't done to elevate my standing.... that's already understood. I suppose I could ignore him... but what sport is there in that? You do understand that he brings this action upon himself of his own volition don't you? He is free to communicate in a rational manner but refuses to do so. If he had any senses at all he wouldn't be killfiled by so many people. CM |
Absolutely inaccurate assessment on your part Kitty. You seem to assume
aggressiveness as truculent behaviour.... that is misleading. To assert is to take a stance.... that alone requires you assume an aggressive posture. The very action of being assertive requires that you are capable of delineating how you will be treated or engaged. You are making a demand of others.... that requires an aggressive posture.... unless you are making a plea... which isn't assertive. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... Well, you're wrong again...I'm not interested in doing all the Google searches for the studies, but they're there...assertiveness can be taught and used effectively, without aggression....you probably just don't recognize it because the testosterone stands in the way... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:IyNYd.23951$ZO2.4359@edtnps84... Assertive behaviour is motivated by aggressive stance. If you stand your ground... you are asserting your place... the very act of that is aggressive. The meek can never be taught assertiveness.... I don't care how many classes you give them.... they will fold like superman on laundry day in the face of someone with a true assertive/aggressive personality. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... You're wrong....there are people that specialize in training the meek to be assertive...these people have not got an aggressive bone in their bodies and get walked over....with assertiveness training, they are able to start fending for themselves...has nothing to do with aggression and everything to do with survival.... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:w6LYd.23554$ZO2.23116@edtnps84... Again you fail to grasp the basic fact that without an aggressive attitude... you cannot be assertive. Assertiveness is merely a symptom of an aggressive nature, as is being competitive. Aggression does not have to involve physical violence. I believe you are unable to comprehend this because as a female you are guided by emotion as opposed to logic. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... Assertiveness works well in the competitive field of business whereas aggressiveness will usually land you on the unemployment lines...aggressive people generally rise fast in their professions and then tank out early whereas the consistently assertive attain their goals in a non-threatening manner and hold their positions or continue to rise.... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:N_EYd.46434$fc4.26583@edtnps89... I believe it is indeed that you do not comprehend.... or make erroneous assumptions regarding male aggression. In the average male... aggressiveness is controlled. To submit that a competitive nature is not required in a modern society is illogical. Even the few women in a position of power show an extremely heightened sense of aggressiveness and a competitive nature. Enlightenment has nothing to do with it. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... It's not that we don't comprehend..it's that we reject that as anything other than what it is....uncontrolled testosterone...it worked for cavemen because that's the physical reality they lived in but the idea of man (gender, not species) as hunter/gatherer in an enlightened society is an anachronism... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:5huYd.20032$ZO2.7495@edtnps84... NO! Kitty.... You are confusing aggressiveness and assertiveness.... which is understandable. I will repeat myself despite the fact I know you are not capable of understanding the logic..... You cannot be assertive without being aggressive. Let's take the scenario you utilized.... you assume that aggression requires physical intervention. It does not! Aggression between males has a multi-tiered level.... none of which can be comprehended by females. The level of aggressive behaviour is dependant on the situation. This is comprehended by even the youngest of our gender. CM CM "katysails" wrote in message ... An assertive person makes their point by showing you the hole in the ground; an aggressive person puts you in the hole in the ground. "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:gXrYd.19227$ZO2.4609@edtnps84... You require aggressiveness to be assertive.... the very act of asserting yourself, places others as either your equal or your subordinate.... despite what they may have perceived. This situation is not attained by passive compliance, nor neutral indifference. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... I am assertive....not aggressive.... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:hTpYd.20694$i6.18071@edtnps90... Aggression need not be physical.... CM "katysails" wrote in message ... I am not a physically aggressive person....except for the boots, chains, spurs, etc....but that's not the same thing... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:xghYd.40369$fc4.33395@edtnps89... You may indeed suggest it...... but I'd sooner you take your own advise. CM "katysails" wrote in message Well, may I suggest you rise above your base animal instinct and start using the tools that were given you to negotiate and walk away from aggression? |
"katysails" wrote in message Annoyances, in my opinion, are best left ignored...if you pay attention to peetty annoyances, they do become important to you for whatever reason and take time away from things that would be more worthwhile... Amen to that. I filtered Ganz a while back and can't begin to express how different and how pleasant this NG is now. Ganz is one of those spoiled malcontents with juvenile behavior that seem to be able to make NGs a PITA. I only wish it were as easy to make undesirables disappear in real life. g Max |
"katysails" wrote in message Well, you're wrong again...I'm not interested in doing all the Google searches for the studies, but they're there...assertiveness can be taught and used effectively, without aggression....you probably just don't recognize it because the testosterone stands in the way... Cut him some slack, Katy. It's the rum talkin'. Max |
"Maxprop" wrote in message nk.net... "katysails" wrote in message Well, you're wrong again...I'm not interested in doing all the Google searches for the studies, but they're there...assertiveness can be taught and used effectively, without aggression....you probably just don't recognize it because the testosterone stands in the way... Cut him some slack, Katy. It's the rum talkin'. In vino veritas..... CM |
Yep, I'm sure you "visit" them regularly. Fortunately for you, the roosters
aren't too smart. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:wMQYd.22691$i6.4181@edtnps90... "JG" wrote in message ... I'm sure you visit them regularly. Interesting that you call them your "girls." Well, I suppose that's better than calling them your "boys," and I doubt the roosters would put up with your advances. Of course I "visit" them regularly Gaynzy... they are on the property and require feeding/watering daily!! How totally idiotic can you possibly be not to comprehend that? I don't call them my girls Jon... just "the Girls"... like I call you just "a Homo"! Yes, I'm aware of the general location of Nova Scotia. It's still a heck of a lot colder than sunny California... in the high 70s low 80s today. I've been sailing all week. Bwaahahahaaaaaa.... The general location???? Yeah it's colder but we don't have anywhere near the amount of raving queers you do in California. That's a trade off I can live with ... you friggin' homo. CM "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:02NYd.23935$ZO2.13939@edtnps84... Oh no... they have a cedar shingled 8'x12' Chook House, windows, lights, heat with an enclosed 12'x12' pen that has a metal roof. The lighting is on a timer and a 6 CD player is installed. A dust vent system and exhaust fan control air quality. The "girls" live a good life and enjoy their stay well beyond their productive span to die of old age. Any chicken would give it's eye teeth to stay there. By the way... you are aware I don't live in the Arctic anymore aren't you? You do know where Nova Scotia is don't you? CM "JG" wrote in message ... Bwahahahaaa... I'm amazed your chickens don't freeze to death. Oh wait... I forgot, they live in your house. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:tlMYd.23932$ZO2.5515@edtnps84... Nova Scotia????? Bwahahahahahahahaaaa!! CM "JG" wrote in message ... Yeah, in the frozen tundra where no one wants to live. Might make a nice vacation home. I think I'll stick to the warmer lats. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:YyLYd.23822$ZO2.20783@edtnps84... "Dave" wrote in message ... On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:47:23 GMT, "Scout" said: But I wouldn't want to be the 25 year old newly wed trying to scrape together 20% of $500K for a down payment. Happens all the time. And in the Manhattan market, if they have to scrape together 20% of $500K for the down payment they're not gonna get to first base. The coop board will turn them down. Isn't that where Bob lives???? Do you think his apartment is worth $500K?? Man.. $500K will buy you 60 acres of oceanside and a house up this way! $50K will buy you a 15 acre farm, with house, barns and out buildings...... CM |
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