Joe wrote:
Jeff Morris wrote:

Except the truth is, when you bring a gun in to house, it is more

likely

to kill a family member than to protect against a crime. That's the
truth, not your bogus "logic."



Yes and we should remove all drugs from homes due to the possiable
abuse by idiots. Cars, Bikes, skateboards, waterskis, footballs,
knives, bathtubs, stoves, rope, lawnmowers, razors , spraypaint, any
chemical, tools, I could go on.

That's a pretty stupid analogy, but about what I'd expect from you. Its
not that guns *can* be abused, its that they *are* abused. If your
doctor told you that a headache medicine is more likely to kill you than
cure your headache, would you still bring it in the house?

Horvath wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:48:45 -0500, Jeff Morris
wrote this crap:


Horvath wrote:
...

The state with the loosest gun laws is Alaska, with the lowest
murder rate.


What do you do, just make this stuff up? I know you're too stupid to
look up the real numbers, but didn't you think I would? Alaska has a
higher than average murder rate, more than triple the rate of Massachusetts.



That's bull****. Alaska has less people than Boston.

Actually, Alaska has more people than Boston. Is there no limit to the
depth of your ignorance?

Maxprop wrote:
OzOne wrote in message


On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 07:13:06 -0500, Horvath
scribbled thusly:



What do you do, just make this stuff up? I know you're too stupid to
look up the real numbers, but didn't you think I would? Alaska has a
higher than average murder rate, more than triple the rate of
Massachusetts.


That's bull****. Alaska has less people than Boston.


The word was RATE Holly!


Well duh. If a village population has 200 people and one gets murdered, the
murder rate is astronomically higher than even NYC or Washington, DC. Rates
mean very little when presented completely out of context or with no common
frame of reference.

And what context are the rates "taken out of"? Its true that the murder
rate in Alaska fluctuates more than other state due to the limited
sampling, but even with that, its above average almost every year.
There's nothing wrong with the method, the rates are high. You can
attribute that to a variety of causes, but the numbers are real.

Guns hardly ever kill people unless they blow up or something.

Bullets kill people, not guns. Ban bullets.

CN


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message news
Joe wrote:
Jeff Morris wrote:

Except the truth is, when you bring a gun in to house, it is more

likely

to kill a family member than to protect against a crime. That's the
truth, not your bogus "logic."



Yes and we should remove all drugs from homes due to the possiable
abuse by idiots. Cars, Bikes, skateboards, waterskis, footballs,
knives, bathtubs, stoves, rope, lawnmowers, razors , spraypaint, any
chemical, tools, I could go on.

That's a pretty stupid analogy, but about what I'd expect from you. Its
not that guns *can* be abused, its that they *are* abused. If your
doctor told you that a headache medicine is more likely to kill you than
cure your headache, would you still bring it in the house?

Sorry. Some things just aren't worth the grey matter to store them.

Overproof wrote:
"bell" wrote in message
...
OzOne wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 16:31:31 -0500, "bell"
scribbled thusly:

OzOne wrote:

Scooter, back when, I attended a whole bunch of
suicides,

Are you related to Dr. Kevorkian?

No, are you?

No but I haven't attended any suicides, You stated that
you had, that's why I asked.


Aw Cripes Bell... do keep up will you... everyone here
knows that Ozone is an ex-copper who was on the take... he quit the
force before they caught on and now claims
that his wealth is due to prudent investments as opposed
to links to the underworld.
He's "New Money" ...... and it shows.

CM

Scott Vernon wrote:
"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 23:40:15 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
wrote this crap:

Smoking kills 450,000 a year. Should we outlaw smoking?


ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Are you sure?

Yes. For once I agree with Holly.

"Jeff Morris" wrote


Yes and we should remove all drugs from homes due to the possiable
abuse by idiots. Cars, Bikes, skateboards, waterskis, footballs,
knives, bathtubs, stoves, rope, lawnmowers, razors , spraypaint,
any
chemical, tools, I could go on.

That's a pretty stupid analogy, but about what I'd expect from you.
Its
not that guns *can* be abused, its that they *are* abused.


It's not a stupid analogy. PEOPLE abuse guns. Just as PEOPLE can
abuse most anything. Blame the abusing PEOPLE, not the object being
abused. Think about it, Jeff.


If your
doctor told you that a headache medicine is more likely to kill you
than
cure your headache, would you still bring it in the house?

Yes, if he told me that those people were abusing the med and
instructed me on the proper application.

I bet you're one of those that thinks pot smoking leads to crack
addiction.

Scotty

"bell" wrote in message
...
Sorry. Some things just aren't worth the grey matter to store them.

You must be a fan of Arthur C. Doyle.
Scout

Scott Vernon wrote:
"Jeff Morris" wrote


Yes and we should remove all drugs from homes due to the possiable
abuse by idiots. Cars, Bikes, skateboards, waterskis, footballs,
knives, bathtubs, stoves, rope, lawnmowers, razors , spraypaint,

any

chemical, tools, I could go on.


That's a pretty stupid analogy, but about what I'd expect from you.

Its

not that guns *can* be abused, its that they *are* abused.



It's not a stupid analogy. PEOPLE abuse guns. Just as PEOPLE can
abuse most anything. Blame the abusing PEOPLE, not the object being
abused. Think about it, Jeff.

OK, let me think. Hmmmmmm. Yup, I thought on it. Its still a stupid
analogy. I'm just pointing out that although the standard argument is
that guns are "needed for protection" but in fact, the gun you bring
into the house is far more likely to used to kill a family member than
protect against an intruder.

In my mind, the "abusing people" are the idiots that insist a heavy
machine gun or and assault weapon are also necessary for "home
protection". Or that its important that everyone is able to purchase
any weapon with no delays or background checks.

For all the nonsense about "strict laws," the Massachusetts law,
considered the strictest in the country, simply prevents convicted
felons and patients of mental institutions from buying a handgun. The
license also requires a simple safety certificate, and is processed
through the local police department. Unless you're a felon or mentally
ill, its easier than getting a driver's license.

So what's the big deal? Are you claiming gun control is bad because
felons can't get assault weapons? Mental patients can't get machine
guns? What's the issue here?


I bet you're one of those that thinks pot smoking leads to crack
addiction.

heh, heh, if only the truth be known ... but I can say no more

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

I bet you're one of those that thinks pot smoking leads to crack
addiction.


Wait a minute... I think I might be addicted to 'crack'...... Oh! wait...
did you mean crack cocaine? I never touched that stuff.... it just doesn't
appeal to me.

CM