"Edgar" wrote:

Scotty and Joe should be ashamed of their posts. The plight of this poor
woman, and thousands of others, bears no relation whatever to that of
people

What an igornorant post! When they refuse help minutes after the disaster,
what can one do?

LP

They are being punished for their arrogance, yet they are not capable
of realizing it and mending their heathen ways. Islam is a failed religion
because, at it's very roots, is a belief that by combining war and religion
Islam would be able to take over the world. IN THEIR ARROGANCE, Muslims
fail to realize education, population control, and civilized behavior must be
part of the mix if any religion is to be successful.

God is good! Islam is a Satanic religion. Recall the "Satanic Verses" by
Salman Rushdee? Islamic clerics issued 'fatwahs' on this author because
they feared the truth. To Hell with every last Muslim who agrees in death
to everyone who does not embrace their Satanic faith.

CN


"Lady Pilot" wrote in message news:yU8Cd.32285$F25.7176@okepread07...

"Edgar" wrote:

Scotty and Joe should be ashamed of their posts. The plight of this poor
woman, and thousands of others, bears no relation whatever to that of
people

What an ignorant post! When they refuse help minutes after the disaster,
what can one do?

LP

Will you get off the whole religion thing here??? These are PEOPLE...it
doesn't matter if they worship salamanders....and if one group refuses,
there are 5 million others that won;t so move on down the line...trolling
religion in the wake of a disaster like this just shows the sheer bottom
that you feed on...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
They are being punished for their arrogance, yet they are not capable
of realizing it and mending their heathen ways. Islam is a failed religion
because, at it's very roots, is a belief that by combining war and
religion
Islam would be able to take over the world. IN THEIR ARROGANCE, Muslims
fail to realize education, population control, and civilized behavior must
be
part of the mix if any religion is to be successful.

God is good! Islam is a Satanic religion. Recall the "Satanic Verses" by
Salman Rushdee? Islamic clerics issued 'fatwahs' on this author because
they feared the truth. To Hell with every last Muslim who agrees in death
to everyone who does not embrace their Satanic faith.

CN


"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:yU8Cd.32285$F25.7176@okepread07...

"Edgar" wrote:

Scotty and Joe should be ashamed of their posts. The plight of this
poor
woman, and thousands of others, bears no relation whatever to that of
people

What an ignorant post! When they refuse help minutes after the disaster,
what can one do?

LP

katysails wrote:
Will you get off the whole religion thing here??? These are PEOPLE...it
doesn't matter if they worship salamanders....

Umm, does that mean they can't eat salamanders?


...trolling
religion in the wake of a disaster like this just shows the sheer bottom
that you feed on...

Yep. Unfortunately, religion is not a force for good in most people's
lives, though. It's a way of feeling smugly superior to all others
("you're going to Hell and I'm not, nyah nyah"), a way of justifying
their prejudices, and a rationalization for cruelty & robbery.

Whatever slight positive effect on morality religion might have is due
to fear of punishment, which IMHO is not really anything to brag about.

If you think I'm being overly cynical, notice how the same crowd is
trying to "prove" that the U.S. is donating more than others as though
it were a contest, as though they share in the grace of giving even if
they've not donated one penny themselves.

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
...
katysails wrote:
Will you get off the whole religion thing here??? These are
PEOPLE...it
doesn't matter if they worship salamanders....

Umm, does that mean they can't eat salamanders?


Only the tails.


....

Yep. Unfortunately, religion is not a force for good in most
people's
lives, though. It's a way of feeling smugly superior to all others
("you're going to Hell and I'm not, nyah nyah"), a way of justifying
their prejudices, and a rationalization for cruelty & robbery.

Whatever slight positive effect on morality religion might have is
due
to fear of punishment, which IMHO is not really anything to brag
about.


Huh? You must be catholic.


SV

Whatever slight positive effect on morality religion might have is
due
to fear of punishment, which IMHO is not really anything to brag
about.


Scott Vernon wrote:
Huh? You must be catholic.


Which type of ethical principle is better:

1- To do the right thing(s) because they are right

2- To do the right thing(s), or at least to avoid doing wrong, because
one is afraid of being caught & punished

???

I may be kind of old fashioned but it seems to me that 1 is superior.

This of course avoids the question of how one determines what is right
and wrong, which is a whole 'nuther debate. Churches tend to discourage
any attempt to seriously examine either of these questions.... or all
questions entirely, which is why the Catholics booted me out

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Whatever slight positive effect on morality religion might have is
due
to fear of punishment, which IMHO is not really anything to brag
about.


Scott Vernon wrote:
Huh? You must be catholic.


Which type of ethical principle is better:

1- To do the right thing(s) because they are right

2- To do the right thing(s), or at least to avoid doing wrong,
because
one is afraid of being caught & punished

???

I may be kind of old fashioned but it seems to me that 1 is
superior.

This of course avoids the question of how one determines what is
right
and wrong, which is a whole 'nuther debate. Churches tend to
discourage
any attempt to seriously examine either of these questions.... or
all
questions entirely, which is why the Catholics booted me out


AHA ! I knew it! You're ex catholic. So is my wife. She left while
young, but still remembers the screwed up views. Our church is all
about love , giving, sharing, human kindness, etc..

Scotty

Doug,
In order for your first point to succeed, you ahve to have your second
point in place for development of conscience. When young children are being
raised, it is necessary that there be consequences for actions...good and
bad. Consequences can be equivocated to punishment at times if the
infraction is grave. Fear of negative consequence is a healthy thing. It
keeps us from becoming sociopathic.

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Whatever slight positive effect on morality religion might have is
due
to fear of punishment, which IMHO is not really anything to brag
about.


Scott Vernon wrote:
Huh? You must be catholic.


Which type of ethical principle is better:

1- To do the right thing(s) because they are right

2- To do the right thing(s), or at least to avoid doing wrong, because one
is afraid of being caught & punished

???

I may be kind of old fashioned but it seems to me that 1 is superior.

This of course avoids the question of how one determines what is right and
wrong, which is a whole 'nuther debate. Churches tend to discourage any
attempt to seriously examine either of these questions.... or all
questions entirely, which is why the Catholics booted me out

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
...
katysails wrote:
Will you get off the whole religion thing here??? These are
PEOPLE...it
doesn't matter if they worship salamanders....

Umm, does that mean they can't eat salamanders?


Only the tails.


....

Yep. Unfortunately, religion is not a force for good in most
people's
lives, though. It's a way of feeling smugly superior to all others
("you're going to Hell and I'm not, nyah nyah"), a way of justifying
their prejudices, and a rationalization for cruelty & robbery.

Whatever slight positive effect on morality religion might have is
due
to fear of punishment, which IMHO is not really anything to brag
about.


Huh? You must be catholic.


SV

"DSK" wrote in message
...
katysails wrote:
Will you get off the whole religion thing here??? These are
PEOPLE...it
doesn't matter if they worship salamanders....

Umm, does that mean they can't eat salamanders?


Only the tails.


....

Yep. Unfortunately, religion is not a force for good in most
people's
lives, though. It's a way of feeling smugly superior to all others
("you're going to Hell and I'm not, nyah nyah"), a way of justifying
their prejudices, and a rationalization for cruelty & robbery.

Whatever slight positive effect on morality religion might have is
due
to fear of punishment, which IMHO is not really anything to brag
about.


Huh? You must be catholic.


SV