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This is one of the best summaries of what a cruising boat should be
like. I first read this about thirty years ago, and still enjoy it. I hope you do too. Regards Doug King ** ** begin ** ** Taken from "The Stone Horse" booklet by Mait Edey and Peter Duff, 1968 We believe that there are five essential characteristics which any cruising sailboat ought to have, regardless of her type or size. 1. She must be easy to handle. Cruising sailboats are almost invariably short-handed. The watch on deck is frequently only one person. So the sails and rig should be within the strength capability of this abbreviated crew. The smallest, weakest member of the crew, working alone, should be able to perform aby evolution required to rescue another crewmember who's been silly enough to fall overboard, in any weather likely to be encountered. In case of medical emergency, he or she should also be able to detach the vessel from the bottom (as such things usually wait until you're tucked away in some remote anchorage) , get underway, sail to where help can be found, and terminate the emergency run without terminating either the patient or the boat. And of course it's times like these that the engine and radio choose to pack it in (Murphy has provided a natural law to cover these situations). Up to a point, mechanical aids such as winches and windlasses, and to a greater extent, the the knowledge and experience of each crew member, will permit larger, heavier, more cumbersome boats and gear. But ultimately, a flogging headsail that must be muzzled and changed, a spinnaker doused, or an anchor heaved on board or buoyed and slipped, become the limiting factors. She should be directionally stable, yet have authoritative rudder control and a small turning circle. When the helmsman looks up from the chart, she should not have wandered wildly off course. In fact it is especially important that a cruising boat can be made to steer herself for long periods. You should be able to leave the helm untended to trim, set or shorten sail, make a sndwich, answer nature's call, study a chart, or for any number of reasons without having to awaken a snoozing spouse or trust a lubberly passenger. On the other hand, to be able to negotiate a narrow harbor entrancem twitch reliably and safely through an anchored fleet, and come to anchor, wholly under sail, with a minimum of fuss, is a joy and a satisfaction. 2. She must be comfortable. Comfort on a boat is really a function of two things: her behavior at sea, and the quality of her accomodation. Gadgets and luxuries will not make you comfortable if your boat has a violent motion or drenches you with spray. A cruising boat should have easy graceful motion and be dry. As for accomodation, no small boat can be spacious, but proper planning can make her truly comfortable to live aboard. The demand for quart accomodations and large yacht appearance in pint pot dimensions will usually yield discomfort. At the very least, there should be places in the cabin where the whole crew can sit comfortably for hours. Almost without exception, places designed to be slept upon cannot do this. 3. She must be seaworthy. We suppose that seaworthiness should be at the top of the list. We place it here because it is partly a function of ease of handling and comfort. Put simply, you are less likely to get into trouble in a boat which doesn't tire you, and whose hull, rig, and other gear are calculated to perform handily even in extreme weather. Seaworthiness really means just keeping the sea on the outside of your boat. A lot of factors contribute to making a boat seaworthy. She must be strong. A weak hull, deck, place where the two join, steering gear, or rig, is inexcusable but not unusual! She must be weatherly; that is, she must be able to beat to windward in even the most trying conditions. She must be bouyant, unless you're willing to live with a submarine. She must be maneuverable. If she takes a country mile to turn, you'll constantly find yourself in threatening situations. She must be sure in stays. Inability to tack has put more boats ashore than perhaps any other single fault. She must be within the capability of her crew. 4. She must be fast. Speed, surprisingly, is not usually considered of great importance by many cruising sailors. Yet if you have become accustomed to good sailing performance in a small boat, you are likely to be unhappy with a slow cruiser. Beyond the satisfaction of making a fast passage, the ability to beat nighfall, or a weather change, into a safe haven is more than comforting. A fast cruising boat should be able to maintain a high average speed on all courses in any reasonable weather, without needing the special attention to keep her "in the groove" demanded by a racing boat. Blazing speed is not essential, but she must be able to get you to the next port with expedition. 5. She must be beautiful. This is an entirely subjective matter, so we don't have much to say about it. It nevertheless is one of our principal concerns. A sailboat can be a work of art. We pity the poor fellow who sails a monstrosity. Can he ever really love her? |
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"Cut the Mustard" meets or exceeds all requirements.
1) She is very easy to handle and very easy to maneuver plus she turns on a dime. Her sails are manageable and in top shape. She goes upwind all day with a simple bungee cord on the tiller to weather. She controls easily with a tiller pilot off the wind. She tacks like a cowboy, she is very buoyant because of her hull design. Her ground tackle is in tip-top shape and relatively light for a man of even modest strength. Her tiller is superior to a wheel in every conceivable way. 2) She is more comfortable than many boats twice her size. She is narrow by today's standards and does not pound in a seaway or steep chop like most of the newer, wide and shallow boats. 3) She is more seaworthy than any boat on this group with the possible exception of Joe's and Mooron's. She is the ONLY one with positive flotation. 4) She's extremely fast, easily knocking off 150 mile days. 5) She is more beautiful than any other sailboat owned by anyone, bar none, here in this group. Even that fine yacht Ella Vuella pales in comparison. CN "DSK" wrote in message news ![]() This is one of the best summaries of what a cruising boat should be like. I first read this about thirty years ago, and still enjoy it. I hope you do too. Regards Doug King ** ** begin ** ** Taken from "The Stone Horse" booklet by Mait Edey and Peter Duff, 1968 We believe that there are five essential characteristics which any cruising sailboat ought to have, regardless of her type or size. 1. She must be easy to handle. Cruising sailboats are almost invariably short-handed. The watch on deck is frequently only one person. So the sails and rig should be within the strength capability of this abbreviated crew. The smallest, weakest member of the crew, working alone, should be able to perform aby evolution required to rescue another crewmember who's been silly enough to fall overboard, in any weather likely to be encountered. In case of medical emergency, he or she should also be able to detach the vessel from the bottom (as such things usually wait until you're tucked away in some remote anchorage) , get underway, sail to where help can be found, and terminate the emergency run without terminating either the patient or the boat. And of course it's times like these that the engine and radio choose to pack it in (Murphy has provided a natural law to cover these situations). Up to a point, mechanical aids such as winches and windlasses, and to a greater extent, the the knowledge and experience of each crew member, will permit larger, heavier, more cumbersome boats and gear. But ultimately, a flogging headsail that must be muzzled and changed, a spinnaker doused, or an anchor heaved on board or buoyed and slipped, become the limiting factors. She should be directionally stable, yet have authoritative rudder control and a small turning circle. When the helmsman looks up from the chart, she should not have wandered wildly off course. In fact it is especially important that a cruising boat can be made to steer herself for long periods. You should be able to leave the helm untended to trim, set or shorten sail, make a sndwich, answer nature's call, study a chart, or for any number of reasons without having to awaken a snoozing spouse or trust a lubberly passenger. On the other hand, to be able to negotiate a narrow harbor entrancem twitch reliably and safely through an anchored fleet, and come to anchor, wholly under sail, with a minimum of fuss, is a joy and a satisfaction. 2. She must be comfortable. Comfort on a boat is really a function of two things: her behavior at sea, and the quality of her accomodation. Gadgets and luxuries will not make you comfortable if your boat has a violent motion or drenches you with spray. A cruising boat should have easy graceful motion and be dry. As for accomodation, no small boat can be spacious, but proper planning can make her truly comfortable to live aboard. The demand for quart accomodations and large yacht appearance in pint pot dimensions will usually yield discomfort. At the very least, there should be places in the cabin where the whole crew can sit comfortably for hours. Almost without exception, places designed to be slept upon cannot do this. 3. She must be seaworthy. We suppose that seaworthiness should be at the top of the list. We place it here because it is partly a function of ease of handling and comfort. Put simply, you are less likely to get into trouble in a boat which doesn't tire you, and whose hull, rig, and other gear are calculated to perform handily even in extreme weather. Seaworthiness really means just keeping the sea on the outside of your boat. A lot of factors contribute to making a boat seaworthy. She must be strong. A weak hull, deck, place where the two join, steering gear, or rig, is inexcusable but not unusual! She must be weatherly; that is, she must be able to beat to windward in even the most trying conditions. She must be bouyant, unless you're willing to live with a submarine. She must be maneuverable. If she takes a country mile to turn, you'll constantly find yourself in threatening situations. She must be sure in stays. Inability to tack has put more boats ashore than perhaps any other single fault. She must be within the capability of her crew. 4. She must be fast. Speed, surprisingly, is not usually considered of great importance by many cruising sailors. Yet if you have become accustomed to good sailing performance in a small boat, you are likely to be unhappy with a slow cruiser. Beyond the satisfaction of making a fast passage, the ability to beat nighfall, or a weather change, into a safe haven is more than comforting. A fast cruising boat should be able to maintain a high average speed on all courses in any reasonable weather, without needing the special attention to keep her "in the groove" demanded by a racing boat. Blazing speed is not essential, but she must be able to get you to the next port with expedition. 5. She must be beautiful. This is an entirely subjective matter, so we don't have much to say about it. It nevertheless is one of our principal concerns. A sailboat can be a work of art. We pity the poor fellow who sails a monstrosity. Can he ever really love her? |
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The Stone Horse was designed by Samuel S Crocker in 1931. It's a Northeast
boat, almost Popeye like. Since it's from the Northeast, it's probably sailed mostly by liberals, who, as we all know, will burn in hell! Amen! Bob Crantz "DSK" wrote in message news ![]() This is one of the best summaries of what a cruising boat should be like. I first read this about thirty years ago, and still enjoy it. I hope you do too. Regards Doug King ** ** begin ** ** Taken from "The Stone Horse" booklet by Mait Edey and Peter Duff, 1968 We believe that there are five essential characteristics which any cruising sailboat ought to have, regardless of her type or size. 1. She must be easy to handle. Cruising sailboats are almost invariably short-handed. The watch on deck is frequently only one person. So the sails and rig should be within the strength capability of this abbreviated crew. The smallest, weakest member of the crew, working alone, should be able to perform aby evolution required to rescue another crewmember who's been silly enough to fall overboard, in any weather likely to be encountered. In case of medical emergency, he or she should also be able to detach the vessel from the bottom (as such things usually wait until you're tucked away in some remote anchorage) , get underway, sail to where help can be found, and terminate the emergency run without terminating either the patient or the boat. And of course it's times like these that the engine and radio choose to pack it in (Murphy has provided a natural law to cover these situations). Up to a point, mechanical aids such as winches and windlasses, and to a greater extent, the the knowledge and experience of each crew member, will permit larger, heavier, more cumbersome boats and gear. But ultimately, a flogging headsail that must be muzzled and changed, a spinnaker doused, or an anchor heaved on board or buoyed and slipped, become the limiting factors. She should be directionally stable, yet have authoritative rudder control and a small turning circle. When the helmsman looks up from the chart, she should not have wandered wildly off course. In fact it is especially important that a cruising boat can be made to steer herself for long periods. You should be able to leave the helm untended to trim, set or shorten sail, make a sndwich, answer nature's call, study a chart, or for any number of reasons without having to awaken a snoozing spouse or trust a lubberly passenger. On the other hand, to be able to negotiate a narrow harbor entrancem twitch reliably and safely through an anchored fleet, and come to anchor, wholly under sail, with a minimum of fuss, is a joy and a satisfaction. 2. She must be comfortable. Comfort on a boat is really a function of two things: her behavior at sea, and the quality of her accomodation. Gadgets and luxuries will not make you comfortable if your boat has a violent motion or drenches you with spray. A cruising boat should have easy graceful motion and be dry. As for accomodation, no small boat can be spacious, but proper planning can make her truly comfortable to live aboard. The demand for quart accomodations and large yacht appearance in pint pot dimensions will usually yield discomfort. At the very least, there should be places in the cabin where the whole crew can sit comfortably for hours. Almost without exception, places designed to be slept upon cannot do this. 3. She must be seaworthy. We suppose that seaworthiness should be at the top of the list. We place it here because it is partly a function of ease of handling and comfort. Put simply, you are less likely to get into trouble in a boat which doesn't tire you, and whose hull, rig, and other gear are calculated to perform handily even in extreme weather. Seaworthiness really means just keeping the sea on the outside of your boat. A lot of factors contribute to making a boat seaworthy. She must be strong. A weak hull, deck, place where the two join, steering gear, or rig, is inexcusable but not unusual! She must be weatherly; that is, she must be able to beat to windward in even the most trying conditions. She must be bouyant, unless you're willing to live with a submarine. She must be maneuverable. If she takes a country mile to turn, you'll constantly find yourself in threatening situations. She must be sure in stays. Inability to tack has put more boats ashore than perhaps any other single fault. She must be within the capability of her crew. 4. She must be fast. Speed, surprisingly, is not usually considered of great importance by many cruising sailors. Yet if you have become accustomed to good sailing performance in a small boat, you are likely to be unhappy with a slow cruiser. Beyond the satisfaction of making a fast passage, the ability to beat nighfall, or a weather change, into a safe haven is more than comforting. A fast cruising boat should be able to maintain a high average speed on all courses in any reasonable weather, without needing the special attention to keep her "in the groove" demanded by a racing boat. Blazing speed is not essential, but she must be able to get you to the next port with expedition. 5. She must be beautiful. This is an entirely subjective matter, so we don't have much to say about it. It nevertheless is one of our principal concerns. A sailboat can be a work of art. We pity the poor fellow who sails a monstrosity. Can he ever really love her? |
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![]() Capt. Neal® wrote: 5) She is more beautiful than any other sailboat owned by anyone, bar none, here in this group. Even that fine yacht Ella Vuella pales in comparison. Of course she is. She's yours. The paling is however a mistake on your part, Ella has a naturally white hull. Cheers |
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Capt. Neal® wrote:
"Cut the Mustard" meets or exceeds all requirements. 1) She is very easy to handle Any boat that small must be easy to handle. .. 2) She is more comfortable than many boats twice her size. Maybe for one person. Most people sail in larger groups. 3) She is more seaworthy than any boat on this group with the possible exception of Joe's and Mooron's. She is the ONLY one with positive flotation. For all your talk of "seaworthy" and "bluewater," you've hardly ever been out of sight of land. You really have to do more than hop over to the Bahamas to talk about this. Now that's very doubtful. I've done a number of short passages (100+ miles) an my sister ships have done numerous trips to Bermuda and from there to the Caribbean, and several have done Atlantic crossings. All with no incidents. And all have positive flotation. 4) She's extremely fast, easily knocking off 150 mile days. Very doubtful with a hull speed of 6.2 knots. What's that work out to? 148 miles? 5) She is more beautiful than any other sailboat owned by anyone, bar none, here in this group. Even that fine yacht Ella Vuella pales in comparison. Everyone should think their boat is beautiful. |
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I've sailed them a few times - great boats. My dink is built by Edey
and Duff. DSK wrote: This is one of the best summaries of what a cruising boat should be like. I first read this about thirty years ago, and still enjoy it. I hope you do too. Regards Doug King ** ** begin ** ** Taken from "The Stone Horse" booklet by Mait Edey and Peter Duff, 1968 We believe that there are five essential characteristics which any cruising sailboat ought to have, regardless of her type or size. 1. She must be easy to handle. Cruising sailboats are almost invariably short-handed. The watch on deck is frequently only one person. So the sails and rig should be within the strength capability of this abbreviated crew. The smallest, weakest member of the crew, working alone, should be able to perform aby evolution required to rescue another crewmember who's been silly enough to fall overboard, in any weather likely to be encountered. In case of medical emergency, he or she should also be able to detach the vessel from the bottom (as such things usually wait until you're tucked away in some remote anchorage) , get underway, sail to where help can be found, and terminate the emergency run without terminating either the patient or the boat. And of course it's times like these that the engine and radio choose to pack it in (Murphy has provided a natural law to cover these situations). Up to a point, mechanical aids such as winches and windlasses, and to a greater extent, the the knowledge and experience of each crew member, will permit larger, heavier, more cumbersome boats and gear. But ultimately, a flogging headsail that must be muzzled and changed, a spinnaker doused, or an anchor heaved on board or buoyed and slipped, become the limiting factors. She should be directionally stable, yet have authoritative rudder control and a small turning circle. When the helmsman looks up from the chart, she should not have wandered wildly off course. In fact it is especially important that a cruising boat can be made to steer herself for long periods. You should be able to leave the helm untended to trim, set or shorten sail, make a sndwich, answer nature's call, study a chart, or for any number of reasons without having to awaken a snoozing spouse or trust a lubberly passenger. On the other hand, to be able to negotiate a narrow harbor entrancem twitch reliably and safely through an anchored fleet, and come to anchor, wholly under sail, with a minimum of fuss, is a joy and a satisfaction. 2. She must be comfortable. Comfort on a boat is really a function of two things: her behavior at sea, and the quality of her accomodation. Gadgets and luxuries will not make you comfortable if your boat has a violent motion or drenches you with spray. A cruising boat should have easy graceful motion and be dry. As for accomodation, no small boat can be spacious, but proper planning can make her truly comfortable to live aboard. The demand for quart accomodations and large yacht appearance in pint pot dimensions will usually yield discomfort. At the very least, there should be places in the cabin where the whole crew can sit comfortably for hours. Almost without exception, places designed to be slept upon cannot do this. 3. She must be seaworthy. We suppose that seaworthiness should be at the top of the list. We place it here because it is partly a function of ease of handling and comfort. Put simply, you are less likely to get into trouble in a boat which doesn't tire you, and whose hull, rig, and other gear are calculated to perform handily even in extreme weather. Seaworthiness really means just keeping the sea on the outside of your boat. A lot of factors contribute to making a boat seaworthy. She must be strong. A weak hull, deck, place where the two join, steering gear, or rig, is inexcusable but not unusual! She must be weatherly; that is, she must be able to beat to windward in even the most trying conditions. She must be bouyant, unless you're willing to live with a submarine. She must be maneuverable. If she takes a country mile to turn, you'll constantly find yourself in threatening situations. She must be sure in stays. Inability to tack has put more boats ashore than perhaps any other single fault. She must be within the capability of her crew. 4. She must be fast. Speed, surprisingly, is not usually considered of great importance by many cruising sailors. Yet if you have become accustomed to good sailing performance in a small boat, you are likely to be unhappy with a slow cruiser. Beyond the satisfaction of making a fast passage, the ability to beat nighfall, or a weather change, into a safe haven is more than comforting. A fast cruising boat should be able to maintain a high average speed on all courses in any reasonable weather, without needing the special attention to keep her "in the groove" demanded by a racing boat. Blazing speed is not essential, but she must be able to get you to the next port with expedition. 5. She must be beautiful. This is an entirely subjective matter, so we don't have much to say about it. It nevertheless is one of our principal concerns. A sailboat can be a work of art. We pity the poor fellow who sails a monstrosity. Can he ever really love her? |
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Crap'n Neal® scribbled thusly:
"Cut the Mustard" meets or exceeds all requirements. 1) She is very easy to handle and very easy to maneuver plus she turns on a dime. Her sails are manageable and in top shape. She goes upwind all day with a simple bungee cord on the tiller to weather. She controls easily with a tiller pilot off the wind. She tacks like a cowboy, she is very buoyant because of her hull design. OzOne wrote: Most dinghys are! Yes, and it's easy to handle because it never leaves the mooring. 2) She is more comfortable than many boats twice her size. She is narrow by today's standards and does not pound in a seaway or steep chop like most of the newer, wide and shallow boats. Yep, funny isn't it that all the fast, comfortable passage makers are wide. You're thinking multis, right? 3) She is more seaworthy than any boat on this group with the possible exception of Joe's and Mooron's. She is the ONLY one with positive flotation. Mutlis don't need positive flotation, they have no ballast to drag them to the bottom. No engines or batteries either? The tri I race had her hull breached after hitting a submerged container while travelling at around 20kts. She was SAILED the 300 odd miles home! I don't see what's wrong with positive flotation, if properly engineered. 4) She's extremely fast, easily knocking off 150 mile days. Bwaaaahahahahhahahahahahahahhahaaaa! Less than 10hours for a decent boat. And extremely unlikely for a 30 year old low-end 27-foot production boat. 5) She is more beautiful than any other sailboat owned by anyone, bar none, here in this group. Even that fine yacht Ella Vuella pales in comparison. You left off the ;^) Edey & Duff wrote: A sailboat can be a work of art. We pity the poor fellow who sails a monstrosity. Can he ever really love her? We see that the answer to that, in at least one case, is yes... but the person in question has a fondness for inflatable love objects... DSK |
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Excuse me, but Chanteuse beats Cut the Mustard hands down....and our
interior is not some hyped up designer mauve but a strict nautical blue... "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... "Cut the Mustard" meets or exceeds all requirements. 1) She is very easy to handle and very easy to maneuver plus she turns on a dime. Her sails are manageable and in top shape. She goes upwind all day with a simple bungee cord on the tiller to weather. She controls easily with a tiller pilot off the wind. She tacks like a cowboy, she is very buoyant because of her hull design. Her ground tackle is in tip-top shape and relatively light for a man of even modest strength. Her tiller is superior to a wheel in every conceivable way. 2) She is more comfortable than many boats twice her size. She is narrow by today's standards and does not pound in a seaway or steep chop like most of the newer, wide and shallow boats. 3) She is more seaworthy than any boat on this group with the possible exception of Joe's and Mooron's. She is the ONLY one with positive flotation. 4) She's extremely fast, easily knocking off 150 mile days. 5) She is more beautiful than any other sailboat owned by anyone, bar none, here in this group. Even that fine yacht Ella Vuella pales in comparison. CN "DSK" wrote in message news ![]() This is one of the best summaries of what a cruising boat should be like. I first read this about thirty years ago, and still enjoy it. I hope you do too. Regards Doug King ** ** begin ** ** Taken from "The Stone Horse" booklet by Mait Edey and Peter Duff, 1968 We believe that there are five essential characteristics which any cruising sailboat ought to have, regardless of her type or size. 1. She must be easy to handle. Cruising sailboats are almost invariably short-handed. The watch on deck is frequently only one person. So the sails and rig should be within the strength capability of this abbreviated crew. The smallest, weakest member of the crew, working alone, should be able to perform aby evolution required to rescue another crewmember who's been silly enough to fall overboard, in any weather likely to be encountered. In case of medical emergency, he or she should also be able to detach the vessel from the bottom (as such things usually wait until you're tucked away in some remote anchorage) , get underway, sail to where help can be found, and terminate the emergency run without terminating either the patient or the boat. And of course it's times like these that the engine and radio choose to pack it in (Murphy has provided a natural law to cover these situations). Up to a point, mechanical aids such as winches and windlasses, and to a greater extent, the the knowledge and experience of each crew member, will permit larger, heavier, more cumbersome boats and gear. But ultimately, a flogging headsail that must be muzzled and changed, a spinnaker doused, or an anchor heaved on board or buoyed and slipped, become the limiting factors. She should be directionally stable, yet have authoritative rudder control and a small turning circle. When the helmsman looks up from the chart, she should not have wandered wildly off course. In fact it is especially important that a cruising boat can be made to steer herself for long periods. You should be able to leave the helm untended to trim, set or shorten sail, make a sndwich, answer nature's call, study a chart, or for any number of reasons without having to awaken a snoozing spouse or trust a lubberly passenger. On the other hand, to be able to negotiate a narrow harbor entrancem twitch reliably and safely through an anchored fleet, and come to anchor, wholly under sail, with a minimum of fuss, is a joy and a satisfaction. 2. She must be comfortable. Comfort on a boat is really a function of two things: her behavior at sea, and the quality of her accomodation. Gadgets and luxuries will not make you comfortable if your boat has a violent motion or drenches you with spray. A cruising boat should have easy graceful motion and be dry. As for accomodation, no small boat can be spacious, but proper planning can make her truly comfortable to live aboard. The demand for quart accomodations and large yacht appearance in pint pot dimensions will usually yield discomfort. At the very least, there should be places in the cabin where the whole crew can sit comfortably for hours. Almost without exception, places designed to be slept upon cannot do this. 3. She must be seaworthy. We suppose that seaworthiness should be at the top of the list. We place it here because it is partly a function of ease of handling and comfort. Put simply, you are less likely to get into trouble in a boat which doesn't tire you, and whose hull, rig, and other gear are calculated to perform handily even in extreme weather. Seaworthiness really means just keeping the sea on the outside of your boat. A lot of factors contribute to making a boat seaworthy. She must be strong. A weak hull, deck, place where the two join, steering gear, or rig, is inexcusable but not unusual! She must be weatherly; that is, she must be able to beat to windward in even the most trying conditions. She must be bouyant, unless you're willing to live with a submarine. She must be maneuverable. If she takes a country mile to turn, you'll constantly find yourself in threatening situations. She must be sure in stays. Inability to tack has put more boats ashore than perhaps any other single fault. She must be within the capability of her crew. 4. She must be fast. Speed, surprisingly, is not usually considered of great importance by many cruising sailors. Yet if you have become accustomed to good sailing performance in a small boat, you are likely to be unhappy with a slow cruiser. Beyond the satisfaction of making a fast passage, the ability to beat nighfall, or a weather change, into a safe haven is more than comforting. A fast cruising boat should be able to maintain a high average speed on all courses in any reasonable weather, without needing the special attention to keep her "in the groove" demanded by a racing boat. Blazing speed is not essential, but she must be able to get you to the next port with expedition. 5. She must be beautiful. This is an entirely subjective matter, so we don't have much to say about it. It nevertheless is one of our principal concerns. A sailboat can be a work of art. We pity the poor fellow who sails a monstrosity. Can he ever really love her? |
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But can Chanteuse sail right now? Is she even in the water?
As for mauve, LP admitted she had a mauve sofa. So there! CN "katysails" wrote in message ... Excuse me, but Chanteuse beats Cut the Mustard hands down....and our interior is not some hyped up designer mauve but a strict nautical blue... "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... "Cut the Mustard" meets or exceeds all requirements. 1) She is very easy to handle and very easy to maneuver plus she turns on a dime. Her sails are manageable and in top shape. She goes upwind all day with a simple bungee cord on the tiller to weather. She controls easily with a tiller pilot off the wind. She tacks like a cowboy, she is very buoyant because of her hull design. Her ground tackle is in tip-top shape and relatively light for a man of even modest strength. Her tiller is superior to a wheel in every conceivable way. 2) She is more comfortable than many boats twice her size. She is narrow by today's standards and does not pound in a seaway or steep chop like most of the newer, wide and shallow boats. 3) She is more seaworthy than any boat on this group with the possible exception of Joe's and Mooron's. She is the ONLY one with positive flotation. 4) She's extremely fast, easily knocking off 150 mile days. 5) She is more beautiful than any other sailboat owned by anyone, bar none, here in this group. Even that fine yacht Ella Vuella pales in comparison. CN "DSK" wrote in message news ![]() This is one of the best summaries of what a cruising boat should be like. I first read this about thirty years ago, and still enjoy it. I hope you do too. Regards Doug King ** ** begin ** ** Taken from "The Stone Horse" booklet by Mait Edey and Peter Duff, 1968 We believe that there are five essential characteristics which any cruising sailboat ought to have, regardless of her type or size. 1. She must be easy to handle. Cruising sailboats are almost invariably short-handed. The watch on deck is frequently only one person. So the sails and rig should be within the strength capability of this abbreviated crew. The smallest, weakest member of the crew, working alone, should be able to perform aby evolution required to rescue another crewmember who's been silly enough to fall overboard, in any weather likely to be encountered. In case of medical emergency, he or she should also be able to detach the vessel from the bottom (as such things usually wait until you're tucked away in some remote anchorage) , get underway, sail to where help can be found, and terminate the emergency run without terminating either the patient or the boat. And of course it's times like these that the engine and radio choose to pack it in (Murphy has provided a natural law to cover these situations). Up to a point, mechanical aids such as winches and windlasses, and to a greater extent, the the knowledge and experience of each crew member, will permit larger, heavier, more cumbersome boats and gear. But ultimately, a flogging headsail that must be muzzled and changed, a spinnaker doused, or an anchor heaved on board or buoyed and slipped, become the limiting factors. She should be directionally stable, yet have authoritative rudder control and a small turning circle. When the helmsman looks up from the chart, she should not have wandered wildly off course. In fact it is especially important that a cruising boat can be made to steer herself for long periods. You should be able to leave the helm untended to trim, set or shorten sail, make a sndwich, answer nature's call, study a chart, or for any number of reasons without having to awaken a snoozing spouse or trust a lubberly passenger. On the other hand, to be able to negotiate a narrow harbor entrancem twitch reliably and safely through an anchored fleet, and come to anchor, wholly under sail, with a minimum of fuss, is a joy and a satisfaction. 2. She must be comfortable. Comfort on a boat is really a function of two things: her behavior at sea, and the quality of her accomodation. Gadgets and luxuries will not make you comfortable if your boat has a violent motion or drenches you with spray. A cruising boat should have easy graceful motion and be dry. As for accomodation, no small boat can be spacious, but proper planning can make her truly comfortable to live aboard. The demand for quart accomodations and large yacht appearance in pint pot dimensions will usually yield discomfort. At the very least, there should be places in the cabin where the whole crew can sit comfortably for hours. Almost without exception, places designed to be slept upon cannot do this. 3. She must be seaworthy. We suppose that seaworthiness should be at the top of the list. We place it here because it is partly a function of ease of handling and comfort. Put simply, you are less likely to get into trouble in a boat which doesn't tire you, and whose hull, rig, and other gear are calculated to perform handily even in extreme weather. Seaworthiness really means just keeping the sea on the outside of your boat. A lot of factors contribute to making a boat seaworthy. She must be strong. A weak hull, deck, place where the two join, steering gear, or rig, is inexcusable but not unusual! She must be weatherly; that is, she must be able to beat to windward in even the most trying conditions. She must be bouyant, unless you're willing to live with a submarine. She must be maneuverable. If she takes a country mile to turn, you'll constantly find yourself in threatening situations. She must be sure in stays. Inability to tack has put more boats ashore than perhaps any other single fault. She must be within the capability of her crew. 4. She must be fast. Speed, surprisingly, is not usually considered of great importance by many cruising sailors. Yet if you have become accustomed to good sailing performance in a small boat, you are likely to be unhappy with a slow cruiser. Beyond the satisfaction of making a fast passage, the ability to beat nighfall, or a weather change, into a safe haven is more than comforting. A fast cruising boat should be able to maintain a high average speed on all courses in any reasonable weather, without needing the special attention to keep her "in the groove" demanded by a racing boat. Blazing speed is not essential, but she must be able to get you to the next port with expedition. 5. She must be beautiful. This is an entirely subjective matter, so we don't have much to say about it. It nevertheless is one of our principal concerns. A sailboat can be a work of art. We pity the poor fellow who sails a monstrosity. 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Well, I have a mauve and raspberry kitchen but niot on the boat, for Pete's
sake....and even you ahve to pull sometimes to de-calcify your bottom and with your weather patterns, there are times when you also cannot sail...so there : P double... "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... But can Chanteuse sail right now? Is she even in the water? As for mauve, LP admitted she had a mauve sofa. So there! CN "katysails" wrote in message ... Excuse me, but Chanteuse beats Cut the Mustard hands down....and our interior is not some hyped up designer mauve but a strict nautical blue... "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... "Cut the Mustard" meets or exceeds all requirements. 1) She is very easy to handle and very easy to maneuver plus she turns on a dime. Her sails are manageable and in top shape. She goes upwind all day with a simple bungee cord on the tiller to weather. She controls easily with a tiller pilot off the wind. She tacks like a cowboy, she is very buoyant because of her hull design. Her ground tackle is in tip-top shape and relatively light for a man of even modest strength. Her tiller is superior to a wheel in every conceivable way. 2) She is more comfortable than many boats twice her size. She is narrow by today's standards and does not pound in a seaway or steep chop like most of the newer, wide and shallow boats. 3) She is more seaworthy than any boat on this group with the possible exception of Joe's and Mooron's. She is the ONLY one with positive flotation. 4) She's extremely fast, easily knocking off 150 mile days. 5) She is more beautiful than any other sailboat owned by anyone, bar none, here in this group. Even that fine yacht Ella Vuella pales in comparison. CN "DSK" wrote in message news ![]() like. I first read this about thirty years ago, and still enjoy it. I hope you do too. Regards Doug King ** ** begin ** ** Taken from "The Stone Horse" booklet by Mait Edey and Peter Duff, 1968 We believe that there are five essential characteristics which any cruising sailboat ought to have, regardless of her type or size. 1. She must be easy to handle. Cruising sailboats are almost invariably short-handed. The watch on deck is frequently only one person. So the sails and rig should be within the strength capability of this abbreviated crew. The smallest, weakest member of the crew, working alone, should be able to perform aby evolution required to rescue another crewmember who's been silly enough to fall overboard, in any weather likely to be encountered. In case of medical emergency, he or she should also be able to detach the vessel from the bottom (as such things usually wait until you're tucked away in some remote anchorage) , get underway, sail to where help can be found, and terminate the emergency run without terminating either the patient or the boat. And of course it's times like these that the engine and radio choose to pack it in (Murphy has provided a natural law to cover these situations). Up to a point, mechanical aids such as winches and windlasses, and to a greater extent, the the knowledge and experience of each crew member, will permit larger, heavier, more cumbersome boats and gear. But ultimately, a flogging headsail that must be muzzled and changed, a spinnaker doused, or an anchor heaved on board or buoyed and slipped, become the limiting factors. She should be directionally stable, yet have authoritative rudder control and a small turning circle. When the helmsman looks up from the chart, she should not have wandered wildly off course. In fact it is especially important that a cruising boat can be made to steer herself for long periods. You should be able to leave the helm untended to trim, set or shorten sail, make a sndwich, answer nature's call, study a chart, or for any number of reasons without having to awaken a snoozing spouse or trust a lubberly passenger. On the other hand, to be able to negotiate a narrow harbor entrancem twitch reliably and safely through an anchored fleet, and come to anchor, wholly under sail, with a minimum of fuss, is a joy and a satisfaction. 2. She must be comfortable. Comfort on a boat is really a function of two things: her behavior at sea, and the quality of her accomodation. Gadgets and luxuries will not make you comfortable if your boat has a violent motion or drenches you with spray. A cruising boat should have easy graceful motion and be dry. As for accomodation, no small boat can be spacious, but proper planning can make her truly comfortable to live aboard. The demand for quart accomodations and large yacht appearance in pint pot dimensions will usually yield discomfort. At the very least, there should be places in the cabin where the whole crew can sit comfortably for hours. Almost without exception, places designed to be slept upon cannot do this. 3. She must be seaworthy. We suppose that seaworthiness should be at the top of the list. We place it here because it is partly a function of ease of handling and comfort. Put simply, you are less likely to get into trouble in a boat which doesn't tire you, and whose hull, rig, and other gear are calculated to perform handily even in extreme weather. Seaworthiness really means just keeping the sea on the outside of your boat. A lot of factors contribute to making a boat seaworthy. She must be strong. A weak hull, deck, place where the two join, steering gear, or rig, is inexcusable but not unusual! She must be weatherly; that is, she must be able to beat to windward in even the most trying conditions. She must be bouyant, unless you're willing to live with a submarine. She must be maneuverable. If she takes a country mile to turn, you'll constantly find yourself in threatening situations. She must be sure in stays. Inability to tack has put more boats ashore than perhaps any other single fault. She must be within the capability of her crew. 4. She must be fast. Speed, surprisingly, is not usually considered of great importance by many cruising sailors. Yet if you have become accustomed to good sailing performance in a small boat, you are likely to be unhappy with a slow cruiser. Beyond the satisfaction of making a fast passage, the ability to beat nighfall, or a weather change, into a safe haven is more than comforting. A fast cruising boat should be able to maintain a high average speed on all courses in any reasonable weather, without needing the special attention to keep her "in the groove" demanded by a racing boat. Blazing speed is not essential, but she must be able to get you to the next port with expedition. 5. She must be beautiful. This is an entirely subjective matter, so we don't have much to say about it. It nevertheless is one of our principal concerns. A sailboat can be a work of art. We pity the poor fellow who sails a monstrosity. Can he ever really love her? |
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