In article ,
katysails wrote:
The fact of the matter is, you have to die sometime. And of something. So
it might as well be flu or yb or something like that rather than failed
kidneys, malingering cancer, or any number of other unpleasant ways to
go....life is a cycle...you live and then you die...get over it....you too,
will die...nothing you can do about it....

Actually, that's not completely true... well, I suppose eventually,
but we're on the cusp of being able to extend life quite a bit.

Again, this seems rather cold-blooded. Is that how you want to die, of
the flu or some other preventable disease? Personally, I'd rather live
a long life and die in my sleep. There's a lot I can do about not
dying from something that's preventable. I think I'll keep trying.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article ,
katysails wrote:
You pay $100 per prescription..What is your net worth (assets value)? Your
friend in Spain pays $8.00 per prescription. Do you really think his asset
value is the same as yours? (or is he one of the markedly few in Europe who
have as high a standard of living as we do?) Would you like to trade and
pay what they pay for fuel...even though we've seen increases, so have they,
and on a scale much greater than we...

Good point, but I think we should pay more, a lot more, for
gasoline. We need to get away from an oil-based economy.


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 29 Oct 2004 10:17:36 -0700, (Jonathan Ganz)
said:

Of the sort like Prisssssilla Owens? That freak of nature shouldn't be on
any bench, except maybe a park bench.

Of any sort.

So, then you don't agree that she should have been appointed by
Bush.

I haven't followed her opinions enough to have a view on that score. But
based on the people who opposed her I suspect she might make a pretty good
Ct. of Appeals judge. How many decisions where she was in the majority have
been reversed by the Supremes?

I don't know. I've only read a bit about her radical views. You should
check it out and let us know from your professional opinion. :-)

I do think the tactic of refusing to report out judicial nominations, and
requiring a 2/3 vote to confirm, are outrageous abuses of the power to
advise and consent. Another example of refusing to follow the Constitutional
process based solely on the result of the process if properly applied.

Sorry... don't understand the reference. Are you talking about the
Senate confirmation of appointees? If so, the Republicans have had
quite a time these 12 years. Seems they've been on both sides of the
same issue. Flip floppers all.


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article ,
katysails wrote:
Get off it and go read the CDC reports for the last two weeks....vaccine ahs
been made avaialbe...in the millions of doses and has been allocated for
those who trult NEED it....both of our facilities have been immunized, as
have all the toher geriatric facilities in this area...and the county has
been offering vaccine at the local clinics as long as you fit the parameters
of NEED...problem is, many people think they NEED it when they do not....

Two weeks?? That's no where near enough to judge how it's going. And,
there is a shortage for those WHO NEED IT. In any case, this debacle
could have been prevented if Bush had acted. He didn't. And, the gov't
has been urging EVERYONE to get a flu shot for many years. Now, they
have to backpeddle on that, which means that some people who actually
should get it will decide not to, and the result may be thousands of
extra deaths.

We spend something like 15% of GDP on healthcare in the US, but we
don't cover 41 million. Bush's "plan" would decrease that number by
about 2.5 million. Kerry's plan would decrease that number by about 27
million (not enough, but good progress). While Kerry's plan isn't
cheap, it would cover ALL children. I think that's the least we can do
for our citizens.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 29 Oct 2004 10:15:39 -0700, (Jonathan Ganz)
said:

No. You didn't ask for a catalog. In any case, it looks like Kerry was
right. It's a huge mess that BushCo created.

If you have a problem with the form of the question, let me restate it:

Should Kerry, before shooting from the hip, have considered how likely it is
that 35 or 40 truckloads of explosives were moved to an undisclosed location
without detection at a time when about the only traffic on the roads was
U.S. military vehicles?

No catalog--just a simple yes or no.

How about restating it this way: Was it a reasonable response by
President Bush to stare open-mouthed when asked about the situation?

Just a simple yes or no please.




--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

Do that...you're still going to die sometime....
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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In article ,
katysails wrote:
The fact of the matter is, you have to die sometime. And of something.
So
it might as well be flu or yb or something like that rather than failed
kidneys, malingering cancer, or any number of other unpleasant ways to
go....life is a cycle...you live and then you die...get over it....you
too,
will die...nothing you can do about it....

Actually, that's not completely true... well, I suppose eventually,
but we're on the cusp of being able to extend life quite a bit.

Again, this seems rather cold-blooded. Is that how you want to die, of
the flu or some other preventable disease? Personally, I'd rather live
a long life and die in my sleep. There's a lot I can do about not
dying from something that's preventable. I think I'll keep trying.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article ,
katysails wrote:
Do that...you're still going to die sometime....

Whatever. The point is that innoculating people agaist the flu is a
very good idea. We normally lose 36K or so people every year to
it. Some people are at higher risk that others, but some flu strains
are deadly to even normally healthy people. We're lucky that this year
is a mild season. What if it had been a bad one, ala 1918, and Bush
had failed to follow up on the advice he was given to do something to
ensure the supply? Instead of a few extra deaths, we might have a few
tens of thousands of extra deaths. Bush did nothing.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

Scott,

I take five a day. The mestinon act as a shield around my muscle
receptors. It is effective for about 3hrs, then it starts to wear off
and my immune system see the receptors as a foreign body and destroyes
them. This leaves me with a muscle that can't respond to the signals
from my brain.

I can't pick up my "Manhattan" :^) Needless to say I don't dare
singlehanding without proper medication.

Ole Thom

Dave,

If what you say is true, there would still be Black & white Lavatories,
drinking fountains, Separate but :^) equal schools, back of buses, white
only hotels, etc
Now we have no God in our Pledge,, No prayers in school, no nativity on
public property. no 10 commandment in state houses.etc

I not sure but in my mind I do believe the Fed is the better way of
going

Ole Thom

Katie,

I hope you're not saying, " no more Polio, TB, scarlet fever, small
pox,etc shots" I like the Federal Gov to be involved in our health
care.

Does your Health Care Center take Medicare Payments?

Ole Thom