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Jonathan Ganz October 25th 04 05:40 PM

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http://www.palmbeachpost.com/opinion...edit_1024.html


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Martin Baxter October 25th 04 05:57 PM

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/opinion...edit_1024.html



"The government could — and should — prevent subsequent shortages by buying a certain amount of vaccine each year", what heresy is this?

Next thing you'll want the government to fund and operate a health care system, you'll become like the rest of the industrialized world where everyone
can get essential care without going broke. Of course you might have to wait for a bit to get that non life threatening rhinoplasty.

Cheers
Marty


Jonathan Ganz October 25th 04 06:50 PM

And, Bush knew about the problem years ago, and he did NOTHING. Now,
potentially more people will die from flu then died in the entire Vietnam
war.

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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Jonathan Ganz wrote:

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/opinion...edit_1024.html



"The government could — and should — prevent subsequent shortages by
buying a certain amount of vaccine each year", what heresy is this?

Next thing you'll want the government to fund and operate a health care
system, you'll become like the rest of the industrialized world where
everyone can get essential care without going broke. Of course you might
have to wait for a bit to get that non life threatening rhinoplasty.

Cheers
Marty




DSK October 25th 04 06:58 PM

Martin Baxter wrote:
"The government could — and should — prevent subsequent shortages by
buying a certain amount of vaccine each year", what heresy is this?

Next thing you'll want the government to fund and operate a health care
system, you'll become like the rest of the industrialized world where
everyone can get essential care without going broke. Of course you might
have to wait for a bit to get that non life threatening rhinoplasty.


Actually, the U.S. health care system is far more socialized than
anybody wants to admit. The flu shot is an example of poor managemement,
but for the most part the system works pretty well for both ends of the
spectrum... it puts a heck of a squeeze on the people in the middle though.

For example, you can get a very wide range of treatment & most
inoculations for free at a state run clinic... of course you have to
wait in a long line. You can also get free medical care at any major
hospital emergency room... again, you might have to wait in a long line.
At the opposite end, there is a rising trend for "boutique" health care
offices for people who don't mind paying a lot for service. They even
make house calls... for a price.

However, if you're a middle class schmuck who can't take 3 days off to
go fight the crowds & fill out paperwork at the county health dept, then
too bad for you. I think this will change, as everything tends to come &
go in cycles. But meanwhile the biggest problem is that Americans of
both political stripes seem to fervently believe that there *must* be
such a thing as a free lunch!

Regards
Doug King


Vito October 25th 04 07:31 PM

"Martin Baxter" wrote
Jonathan Ganz wrote:


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/opinion...edit_1024.html

"The government could — and should — prevent subsequent shortages by

buying a certain amount of vaccine each year", what heresy is this?

Next thing you'll want the government to fund and operate a health care

system, you'll become like the rest of the industrialized world where
everyone
can get essential care without going broke. Of course you might have to

wait for a bit to get that non life threatening rhinoplasty.


Or we'll just dump Bush and his prohibition and buy our medicines at
international prices.



Martin Baxter October 25th 04 07:36 PM

DSK wrote:
But meanwhile the biggest problem is that Americans of
both political stripes seem to fervently believe that there *must* be
such a thing as a free lunch!


This is certainly not a perception held exclusively by Americans, indeed it is virulent throughout the world. I know what my health care is costing
me; some of the highest taxes in the free world. On the other hand there does arise a savings in the health care system often overlooked. Our MDs
and hospitals only have one agency to bill, unfortunately that agency being the Government, they can require as much paper work as three or four
insurance companies combined.

Cheers
Marty


katysails October 26th 04 02:02 AM

That's bullroar...this is not supposed to be a bad flu year and the only
people who need flu shots are the infirm...people are making much more out
of this than what it is....if you have bad lungs to begin with, or a serious
heart condition, or a depleted immune system, then you might have something
to worry about...other than that, you'll get an upper respiratory viral
infection (that's spelled G-O-L-D) and in a week to 10 days it will be over.
Frink fluid, take zinc, and don;t sneeze on your neighbor. And
remember...WASHING YOUR HANDS IS THE BERY BESY PREVENTATIVE FOR
INFLUENZAit beats the shot 100 to 1.
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
And, Bush knew about the problem years ago, and he did NOTHING. Now,
potentially more people will die from flu then died in the entire Vietnam
war.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Jonathan Ganz wrote:

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/opinion...edit_1024.html



"The government could — and should — prevent subsequent shortages by
buying a certain amount of vaccine each year", what heresy is this?

Next thing you'll want the government to fund and operate a health care
system, you'll become like the rest of the industrialized world where
everyone can get essential care without going broke. Of course you might
have to wait for a bit to get that non life threatening rhinoplasty.

Cheers
Marty






Jonathan Ganz October 26th 04 07:34 AM

So, what you're saying is that Bush knew 2 years ago that this flu season
was going to be mild? Talk about delusional....

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"katysails" wrote in message
...
That's bullroar...this is not supposed to be a bad flu year and the only
people who need flu shots are the infirm...people are making much more out
of this than what it is....if you have bad lungs to begin with, or a
serious heart condition, or a depleted immune system, then you might have
something to worry about...other than that, you'll get an upper
respiratory viral infection (that's spelled G-O-L-D) and in a week to 10
days it will be over. Frink fluid, take zinc, and don;t sneeze on your
neighbor. And remember...WASHING YOUR HANDS IS THE BERY BESY PREVENTATIVE
FOR INFLUENZAit beats the shot 100 to 1.
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
And, Bush knew about the problem years ago, and he did NOTHING. Now,
potentially more people will die from flu then died in the entire Vietnam
war.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Jonathan Ganz wrote:

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/opinion...edit_1024.html



"The government could - and should - prevent subsequent shortages by
buying a certain amount of vaccine each year", what heresy is this?

Next thing you'll want the government to fund and operate a health care
system, you'll become like the rest of the industrialized world where
everyone can get essential care without going broke. Of course you might
have to wait for a bit to get that non life threatening rhinoplasty.

Cheers
Marty








DSK October 26th 04 12:51 PM

DSK wrote:
But meanwhile the biggest problem is that Americans of
both political stripes seem to fervently believe that there *must* be
such a thing as a free lunch!



Martin Baxter wrote:
This is certainly not a perception held exclusively by Americans, indeed
it is virulent throughout the world.


Yes, sorry. I didn't mean to claim it for Americans only. I think that
to a large extent it is human nature... if you're a Kipling fan, see
'Road Song of the Bandar-Log.'

DSK


Martin Baxter October 26th 04 01:31 PM

DSK wrote:
DSK wrote:


if you're a Kipling fan, see
'Road Song of the Bandar-Log.'


I am, and have just checked it out, very apropos!

Thanks.

Cheers
Marty



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