gonefishiing wrote:

oh my god yes
we NY'ers don't even leave our homes anymore.
nothing quite like exaggeration.

chuckles? chuckles the clown?

Chuckles, Bubbles... 'twas somewhat satirical, jeeze.

Cheers
Marty

cough on you, one runs the risk of being stabbed, shot, mugged, even deafened
by some idiot with a boom box the size of a Volkswagon.

NY is among safest cities on the world. I've never witnessed violence on the
subway, but I hear it can happen. It also happens in airports, streets and
homes.

RB

In article ,
Dave wrote:
No, I didn't ask you for a catalog. I asked you specifically whether, before
shooting from the hip, he should have considered how likely it is that 35 or
40 truckloads of explosives were moved to an undisclosed
location without detection at a time when about the only traffic on the
roads was U.S. military vehicles. I take it your answer is that no, that the
ends justify the means, so there was no need to give the matter any thought
if it might make good copy.

No. You didn't ask for a catalog. In any case, it looks like Kerry was
right. It's a huge mess that BushCo created.


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 28 Oct 2004 17:16:27 -0700, (Jonathan Ganz)
said:

As I mentioned before, the Federalist Society is indeed making an effort to
do just that with an amendment designed to reign in the blatant legislating
from the bench..

Of the sort like Prisssssilla Owens? That freak of nature shouldn't be on
any bench, except maybe a park bench.

Of any sort.

So, then you don't agree that she should have been appointed by
Bush. Unfortunately, Bush has flip flopped on this issue. He claimed
that he doesn't have a litmus test (of course, he doesn't know what a
litmus test is, but that's another issue), yet he appointed someone
with a clear right-wing, wacko agenda.


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Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 28 Oct 2004 17:13:12 -0700, (Jonathan Ganz)
said:

You can call me all the names in the world, but you still can't
justify something that is morally wrong.. namely denying a woman the
right to choose.

One of the problems with this debate is the absolute certainty on the part
of each side that no other position is morally defensible. As I've suggested
before, when there is such a gulf in beliefs, the best course is for the law
to stay out of the decision process, leaving such matters to other controls
such as individual conscience, the socialization process and religious
beliefs. People have come to ignore these non-legal restraints and insist
that their own views in such matters must in all cases be enforced by the
power of the state. Society is the poorer for it.

I would agree except that the states have a poor history of doing what
you suggest. Therefore, Federal action is required. If we had left it
up to the states, blacks wouldn't have been allowed into colleges in
the South.
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"If there's no wind, row."

In article ,
Scott Vernon wrote:
Why didn't they hang Charlie Manson?

Because then we wouldn't have gotten to see him intimidate Geroldo.

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"If there's no wind, row."

In article , gonefishiing wrote:
oh my god yes
we NY'ers don't even leave our homes anymore.
nothing quite like exaggeration.

Well, we know you don't. g

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http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Why didn't they hang Charlie Manson?

Big difference, Charlie's never going to leave jail alive. AFAIK, he did
receive the death penalty, the Supreme Court declared the death penalty
unconstitutional, threw out the penalty. BTW, he would have gotten the
chair, IIRC.
John Cairns
"John Cairns" wrote in message
. com...

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..

Actually I agree with you but the risk is that someone will let
them
out again. Aren't you guys about to repeal the 'three strikes'
law? I
know it's resulted in jailing a lot of people who are plain stupid
rather than dangerous but the idea, applied to people who commit
crimes
of violence, has a lot of merit IMO. I recall seeing stats
somewhere
(and we all know what they say about stats...) indicating the
majority
of crime was committed by the same small group of the population.

PDW

In most states judges have some discretion sentencing defendants,
which is a
good thing, after all, they are judges. We have a case here in
Michigan
where a confessed serial killer is due to be released from a Texas
jail-a
long convoluted story-and he has vowed to come back to these parts
and do
some more killing. The authorities in these parts are scrambling to
build
cases against him in Michigan, where if he goes to jail he'll never
see the
light of day as a free man. The ironic thing is that Texas is a
death
penalty state, has been for a while, this criminal's story is a good
example
of the unfairness of capital punishment, if there ever was a good
candidate
for killing, this is the guy, but he never got the death penalty.

http://www.detnews.com/2002/metro/02...a01-563796.htm

John Cairns

Katie,

I, have a very different Mind set, having Myasthania Gravis. We have
to take a drug called Mestinon. What I have to pay for a Hundred tablets
($100.00) can be purchased overseas for ($8.00

When the Gov. held hearing and decided US drug manufactures were over
charging and put a ceiling on the profiteering, the Drug companies
licensed companies outside the US to manufacture the drug. It is no
longer manufacture in this country.

We pay &100 and my web friend in Spain pays $8. Made by the same
company.

I know this isn't the Flu Vaccine and I'm sorry to be venting but it is
kind of related

Ole Thom

In article ,
Thom Stewart wrote:
Katie,

I, have a very different Mind set, having Myasthania Gravis. We have
to take a drug called Mestinon. What I have to pay for a Hundred tablets
($100.00) can be purchased overseas for ($8.00

When the Gov. held hearing and decided US drug manufactures were over
charging and put a ceiling on the profiteering, the Drug companies
licensed companies outside the US to manufacture the drug. It is no
longer manufacture in this country.

We pay &100 and my web friend in Spain pays $8. Made by the same
company.

I know this isn't the Flu Vaccine and I'm sorry to be venting but it is
kind of related

Sorry to hear it! A very good friend is in the same boat. His meds
cost $350 US and a little more than 1/2 that from Canada. They're made
by the same US company overseas... have been for years.



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Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."